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Home » FCS Watch » FCS self-​​propelled artillery demonstrator

FCS self-​​propelled artillery demonstrator

nloscfiring.jpgA reader at MO tipped me off to this beast. It’s the NLOS-​​C (non-​​line-​​of-​​sight can­non) demon­stra­tor, and it’s fired over 1,000 rounds dur­ing test­ing near Yuma, AZ.
Regular Defense Tech read­ers will know that the FCS pro­gram is a plan with great poten­tial but many ques­tions and grow­ing price tags. Not to men­tion swelling waist­lines. Of all the FCS vehi­cles, though, this one seems to be the far­thest along and on the right track. That’s because the man­u­fac­turer, United Defense, already had a great deal of ground­work com­pleted due to the can­celed Crusader pro­gram:

United Defense designed and fielded NLOS-​​C CTD in just six months fol­low­ing Crusader pro­gram can­cel­la­tion. CTD lever­ages Crusader tech­nol­ogy, the M777 towed how­itzer 39-​​caliber can­non, a fully auto­mated ammu­ni­tion han­dling sys­tem and a 20-​​ton highly mobile tracked plat­form. The cur­rent CTD has a mag­a­zine capa­ble of hold­ing 24 can­non pro­jec­tiles and hybrid-​​electric (diesel elec­tric) propul­sion sys­tem pro­vid­ing fuel economy.

This par­tic­u­lar beast seems to actu­ally fit the con­cept of tak­ing advan­tage of “off-​​the-​​shelf” com­po­nents when­ever pos­si­ble that FCS was sup­posed to embrace. But it’s a demon­stra­tor and not the final prod­uct. However, a recent pile of money thrown in the gen­eral direc­tion of FCS includes funds to accel­er­ate the NLOS-​​C devel­op­ment.
There are a num­ber of other big-​​gun artillery/​fire sup­port options out there, as well.
The Stryker Mobile Gun System (MGS) is still hav­ing trou­ble and won’t be fielded until at least 2007.
The Stryker crowd can take heart that there’s also a LAV III-​​based 105mm mobile how­itzer pro­to­type that’s been tested and appar­ently per­formed well. It was devel­oped on spec, though, and there’s no spare change avail­able at the moment.
And four left-​​over M8 AGS (Armored Gun System) pro­to­types were sup­posed to be fielded with the 82nd Airborne, but there’s been no news.
The M8 AGS was orig­i­nally devel­oped for the air­borne. The XVIII Airborne Corps has looked at the French-​​built Ceasar, a 155mm how­itzer mounted on a 6x6 truck for some big-​​barreled punch.
Canada is plan­ning to pur­chase the trou­bled Stryker MGS, but some up north won­der if there aren’t bet­ter alter­na­tives avail­able.
Some of these are fire sup­port plat­forms, some are more like tra­di­tional self-​​propelled artillery, and the M8 AGS is really more of a light tank.
But FCS has the money (for now, at least), so the NLOS-​​C has to be con­sid­ered the odds-​​on favorite. Meanwhile, the troops in the field con­tinue to won­der if the big guns will ever be pro­vid­ing some cover and knock­ing in bunkers for them.
THERE’S MORE: Of course, big guns aren’t the only way to make big holes. Missiles and advanced guid­ance are chang­ing the way artillery sup­port works.
callinginsomesmite1.jpgAND MORE: A com­menter on my site noted that, for all the advanced gear and space-​​age weaponry, it will still all come down to the sol­dier. It’s impor­tant that we don’t lose sight of this. To under­score the impor­tance of our men and women in uni­form, I pointed out the pic on the front page of today’s DefendAmerica​.mil and wrote

There’s prob­a­bly very lit­tle on earth scarier than a US sol­dier or Marine with a map and a radio.


–posted by Murdoc

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  1. Byron Skinner says:
    June 23, 2005 at 10:39 pm

    Although the M-​​109 SP How. is commng on 50 years old the cur­rent A-​​6 con­fig­u­ra­tion seems to work pretty well, espe­cially in the reduced role that field artillery will play the “Transformed Army”. From what I can see most Field Artillery will end up in the Army National Guard.
    The M-​​8 AGS was an excel­lent idea that worked, it didn’t have a prayer of being pur­chased by the Army. That 105mm Direct Fire Gun would have given a lot of addi­tional fire­power not only to the 82ed. ABD but also the 101st. AAD, the 10th. MD, 2ed. ACR, the 173ed. ABB the 25th. LID and the Marines at a rea­son­able cost. It’s abil­ity to be up armored would have made it an idea weapons plat­form for what we are deal­ing with in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    The Stryker is a mega prob­lem. The Army will be stuck with 2000 (minus the 300 sent to Iraq) vehi­cles that will be of lit­tle more use then bust­ing crack houses in East L.A. The only forsee­able use for this dog will be in a Peace Keeping role, Patroling along the Mexican Border and for use by the place hold­ers with in NATO.
    With the reopen­ing of the Abrams and Bradley pro­duc­tion lines by December 31st. even the Army is see­ing that that these thin skinned wheeled vehi­cles are not a Combat Vehicle. Both the M-​​1 Abrams and the M-​​2 Bradley are get­ting on in years but at this point they are what we have to fight the wars we have right now.
    FCS is shap­ing up to be a typ­i­cal miss man­aged boon­dog­gle like many other large weapons projects. At some point in the future the Dept. of the Army will fire the two prime con­trac­tors and start over.
    ALLONS,
    Byron Skinner
    “Stewart’s Platoon”

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  2. JSAllison says:
    June 24, 2005 at 8:47 am

    I think the orig­i­nal was some­thing along the lines of ‘There’s noth­ing scarier (to his own folk) than a lieu­tenant with a map (and radio). ;)

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  3. JAFO1989 says:
    November 18, 2005 at 2:32 pm

    “Nothing scarier than a Second Lieutenant with a map and a com­pass” is the way we always used to tell it, after night marches that advanced per­pen­dic­u­lar to the LD instead of toward it.
    But Murdoc is right. Give an FO a map, a radio, and a set of binos, and he’s one bad motorscooter.

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