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	<title>Comments on: FCS self-propelled artillery demonstrator</title>
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		<title>By: JAFO1989</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2005/06/23/fcs-self-propelled-artillery-demonstrator/#comment-105509</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 19:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Nothing scarier than a Second Lieutenant with a map and a compass&quot; is the way we always used to tell it, after night marches that advanced perpendicular to the LD instead of toward it.
But Murdoc is right.  Give an FO a map, a radio, and a set of binos, and he&#039;s one bad motorscooter.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Nothing scarier than a Second Lieutenant with a map and a compass” is the way we always used to tell it, after night marches that advanced perpendicular to the LD instead of toward it.<br />
But Murdoc is right.  Give an FO a map, a radio, and a set of binos, and he’s one bad motorscooter.</p>
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		<title>By: JSAllison</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2005/06/23/fcs-self-propelled-artillery-demonstrator/#comment-2038</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the original was something along the lines of &#039;There&#039;s nothing scarier (to his own folk) than a lieutenant with a map (and radio). ;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the original was something along the lines of ‘There’s nothing scarier (to his own folk) than a lieutenant with a map (and radio). ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Byron Skinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Byron Skinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although the M-109 SP How. is commng on 50 years old the current A-6 configuration seems to work pretty well, especially in the reduced role that field artillery will play the &quot;Transformed Army&quot;. From what I can see most Field Artillery will end up in the Army National Guard.
The M-8 AGS was an excellent idea that worked, it didn&#039;t have a prayer of being purchased by the Army. That 105mm Direct Fire Gun would have given a lot of additional firepower not only to the 82ed. ABD but also the 101st. AAD, the 10th. MD, 2ed. ACR, the 173ed. ABB the 25th. LID and the Marines at a reasonable cost. It&#039;s ability to be up armored would have made it an idea weapons platform for what we are dealing with in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The Stryker is a mega problem. The Army will be stuck with 2000 (minus the 300 sent to Iraq) vehicles that will be of little more use then busting crack houses in East L.A. The only forseeable use for this dog will be in a Peace Keeping role, Patroling along the Mexican Border and for use by the place holders with in NATO.
With the reopening of the Abrams and Bradley production lines by December 31st. even the Army is seeing that that these thin skinned wheeled vehicles are not a Combat Vehicle. Both the M-1 Abrams and the M-2 Bradley are getting on in years but at this point they are what we have to fight the wars we have right now.
FCS is shaping up to be a typical miss managed boondoggle like many other large weapons projects. At some point in the future the Dept. of the Army will fire the two prime contractors and start over.
ALLONS,
Byron Skinner
&quot;Stewart&#039;s Platoon&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although the M-109 SP How. is commng on 50 years old the current A-6 configuration seems to work pretty well, especially in the reduced role that field artillery will play the “Transformed Army”. From what I can see most Field Artillery will end up in the Army National Guard.<br />
The M-8 AGS was an excellent idea that worked, it didn’t have a prayer of being purchased by the Army. That 105mm Direct Fire Gun would have given a lot of additional firepower not only to the 82ed. ABD but also the 101st. AAD, the 10th. MD, 2ed. ACR, the 173ed. ABB the 25th. LID and the Marines at a reasonable cost. It’s ability to be up armored would have made it an idea weapons platform for what we are dealing with in Iraq and Afghanistan.<br />
The Stryker is a mega problem. The Army will be stuck with 2000 (minus the 300 sent to Iraq) vehicles that will be of little more use then busting crack houses in East L.A. The only forseeable use for this dog will be in a Peace Keeping role, Patroling along the Mexican Border and for use by the place holders with in NATO.<br />
With the reopening of the Abrams and Bradley production lines by December 31st. even the Army is seeing that that these thin skinned wheeled vehicles are not a Combat Vehicle. Both the M-1 Abrams and the M-2 Bradley are getting on in years but at this point they are what we have to fight the wars we have right now.<br />
FCS is shaping up to be a typical miss managed boondoggle like many other large weapons projects. At some point in the future the Dept. of the Army will fire the two prime contractors and start over.<br />
ALLONS,<br />
Byron Skinner<br />
“Stewart’s Platoon”</p>
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