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Home » Cloak and Dagger » Lie Detector’s Shaky Story

Lie Detector’s Shaky Story

The American mil­i­tary is using a new-​​fangled lie detec­tor in Iraq and Gitmo — despite Pentagon stud­ies warn­ing that the machine’s chances of spot­ting the truth are worse than “flip­ping a coin.“
VaderLeia.jpgBackers of voice stress analy­sis assert that liars leave hints of fib­bing in their speech — hints that can be decoded by com­puter algo­rithms. The official-​​sounding “National Institute For Truth Verification,” a com­pany mar­ket­ing the machine, claims it has become “the truth ver­i­fi­ca­tion device of choice in the law enforce­ment com­mu­nity… [and] is also being uti­lized by the US Department of Defense in the global war on ter­ror­ism.” (orig­i­nal empha­sis)
According to the com­pany, its mil­i­tary involve­ment began in September, 2003, when it was invited to Guantanamo Bay, to help with “acquir­ing and val­i­dat­ing much needed infor­ma­tion from the for­eign detainees… Success was imme­di­ate, when less than a week after the train­ing a ter­ror sus­pect who had alluded his inter­roga­tors for months admit­ted to ter­ror­ist links after being admin­is­tered a CVSA [com­puter voice stress analy­sis] exam­i­na­tion.“
From there, com­pany rep­re­sen­ta­tives moved to Baghdad, to train mem­bers of the Defense Intelligence Agency and U.S. Special Forces. “A ter­ror sus­pect who had alluded his inter­roga­tors for months admit­ted to ter­ror­ist links,” the insti­tute claims. Again, this hap­pened “less than a week after the train­ing.” Invitations to work with the Marines, U.S. Central Command, Army intel­li­gence units fol­lowed shortly there­after.
All this mil­i­tary inter­est comes a bit of a sur­prise. Because a 2002 study, funded by the Department of Defense Polygraph Institute, found “dis­mal results” for voice stress analy­sis, “both in the system’s abil­ity to detect peo­ple actu­ally engaged in decep­tion and in its abil­ity to exclude those not attempt­ing to be decep­tive,” accord­ing to the lead researcher, Washington University psy­chol­ogy Mitchell Sommers. “In our eval­u­a­tion, voice-​​stress analy­sis detected some instances of decep­tion, but its abil­ity to do so was con­sis­tently less than chance you could have got­ten bet­ter results by flip­ping a coin.“
Another Defense Department study, from 2001, added, “no effect was seen in the CVSA data.” A third, from 1996, agreed with Sommers that the device’s results were “not sig­nif­i­cantly dif­fer­ent from chance.“
But just because the machines don’t work doesn’t mean they don’t have some value as an inter­ro­ga­tion tool. For those who believe in the omni­science of American hard­ware, a poly­graph test can be absolutely ter­ri­fy­ing. Hey pal, the machine says you’re hid­ing some­thing. Might as well con­fess.
“It’s not sci­ence. It’s not tech­nol­ogy,” Steven Aftergood, with the Federation of American Scientists, told me last year. ““But it’s some­times effec­tive the­ater.“
University of Arizona psy­chol­ogy pro­fes­sor John JB Allen recently added, “Guilty folks who believe the tech­nique will unveil their evil-​​doings may con­fess to receive gen­tler treat­ment. But unfor­tu­nately, inno­cent indi­vid­u­als with few resources have also been known to con­fess under con­di­tions of duress.”

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  1. David says:
    July 7, 2005 at 9:19 pm

    Yeah, this isn’t high tech­nol­ogy, it’s high psy­chol­ogy. If they want to go high tech they need to start using real-​​time brain-​​scanning using Magnetic Resonance Imaging. Here’s how you could do it:
    1. pinch the ter­ror­ist really hard.
    2. ask him if it hurt while scan­ning his brain activ­ity.
    3. whether he says yes or no, you now have data show­ing activ­ity in his brain when he’s truth­ful or lying.
    4. start ask­ing him intel­li­gence ques­tions and com­pare the related brain activ­ity to the “pinch” test.

    Reply
  2. Robert Johnson says:
    July 8, 2005 at 11:10 am

    The LVA, is another per­mu­ta­tion of the Israeli “Truster” which has been sold in US air­line and gift cat­a­logs for years as a gim­mick. The comany that dis­trib­utes the LVA also makes a device called the “Love Detector.” It seems all this com­pany is inter­ested in doing is rip­ping peo­ple off. This Israeli tech­nol­ogy has been dis­cred­ited for a num­ber of years, and is not used within Israel. It is also not used by US law enforce­ment, except by a few depart­ments who have LVA mar­keters work­ing for them. I attempted to obtain the USAF Research Laboratory study men­tioed above by Curt Diemer, but was told by the USAF that no such study is pub­lished. If such a study exists I would like to obtain a copy. I have been a long-​​time con­trib­u­tor to the web­site http://​www​.antipoly​graph​.org, and per­son­ally I believe none of these lie detec­tor sys­tems work as stated. They have all failed, espe­cially the polygraph.

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  3. Me says:
    July 8, 2005 at 2:27 pm

    “As this newer tech­nol­ogy comes on the mar­ket addi­tional test­ing and research will show that it is more effec­tive as an inter­ro­ga­tion tool than CVSA.” How do you know what future test­ing and research will show?

    Reply
  4. ted says:
    July 10, 2005 at 11:45 am

    These devices rank right up there with Vitamin O and sci­en­tol­ogy on the scam meter.

    Reply
  5. CWO Canto says:
    July 11, 2005 at 9:31 am

    My good CPT Richards —- I believe you meant SNAKE OIL SALESMEN. Scammers never seem to dis­ap­pear from our market-​​based soci­ety, and it appears they will make any out­ra­geous claim to dip into the gov­ern­ment till. Perhaps LVA should team with Haliburton. Then they could join the king of scam­mers. What a sorry group of losers.

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  6. anonymous troll says:
    July 11, 2005 at 9:37 am

    As the recpi­ent of an exten­sive 5 day poly­graph exam­i­na­tion evo­lu­tion in a mat­ter poten­tially involv­ing national secu­rity, I can state unequiv­a­cally that the value of tra­di­tional poly­graph exam­i­na­tion tech­niques (galvonic skin reponse, blood pres­sure, breath­ing rate and vol­ume) lies purely in the relm of inter­ro­ga­tion. I should prob­a­bly add that I am *NOT* a patho­log­i­cal lier (*smile*). That is to say, they have very lit­tle to do with deter­min­ing the direct “truth” of answers to spe­cific ques­tions. This becomes absolutely clear when inves­ti­ga­tors start lying you to about your results (and if you’re *really* good a read­ing peo­ple (BTW a good cop can beat a poly­graph any day of the week) you can tell when they know they’re lying to you and when they haven’t fsck­ing clue)
    .
    The value of voice stress test­ing (and other pas­sive tech­niques) lies directly in their inac­cu­racy.
    I can also add that pas­sive meth­ods are being use in con­junc­tion with being strapped into “The Chair”. I’d really be inter­ested in know­ing where that data goes once it is col­lected (it is uploaded after the ses­sion and per­mi­nently logged with the tran­script from the ses­sion) and who gets to look at post facto known “truths”.
    As every­one knows, the best pol­icy is to tell the truth and take the high ground when­ever possible.

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  7. By The Mark says:
    July 18, 2005 at 11:14 am

    If you want the truth, load your glock 9 with a dum-​​dum. take two of the cul­prits you want to interi­gate. ask one ques­tion, “Who’s first”? it works everytime

    Reply
  8. Hazel Faith cardente says:
    September 28, 2005 at 2:13 am

    Hi! Im liv­ing in Norway, but where can I do the Lie Detector’s test? That is very impor­tant for me! Help!
    Thank You!

    Reply
  9. M. Blackson says:
    April 11, 2006 at 10:17 pm

    I have been doing CVSA exam­i­na­tions for four years now for the Sheriff Department that I work for. I have not had train­ing with the poly­graph, but I know that the CVSA works. In Law Enforcement or Military, if you have a tool that works, use it. CVSA works.

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  11. Ontario Emperor says:
    August 14, 2006 at 12:41 pm

    The cited stud­ies are all sev­eral years old. Has any­one done a recent study using the lat­est tech­nol­ogy? I read a WSJ excerpt on Suspect Detection Systems that still cited tel­a­tively high false rejec­tion and false accep­tance rates, but cer­tainly bet­ter than flip­ping a coin.

    Reply
  12. P. Long says:
    August 26, 2006 at 2:47 am

    Give it up, VSA sup­port­ers. I under­went a VSA inter­view as part of a back­ground inves­ti­ga­tion about four years ago with a qual­i­fied oper­a­tor. I “failed” on the con­trol ques­tion “Are you wear­ing shoes?” All sub­se­quent answers read false. Voodoo is voodoo, no mat­ter how many blink­ing lights it has…(I got the job, by the way)

    Reply
  13. Chuck Dockrey says:
    September 29, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    This is towards CW3 Bell, US Army com­ments about the results of the voice stress test. It is amaz­ing to me how he makes a jump from a voice test machine to a lib­eral mak­ing bad com­ments about the mil­i­tary. Not all lib­er­als think the mil­i­tary is bad or knock the mil­i­tary, and if he would look at the test results he has a 50 per­cent chance of get­ting it right. Flip a coin and save us some money and get rid of the machines. Tell these une­d­u­cated morons he catches he has a black box that can tell if he lies and if he does not tell the truth he will go to GitMo, hell, I will will con­fess to killing Hussien myself. You are bank­ing on a career of law enforce­ment using this machine when you get out of the mil­i­tary. Read the results of the sci­ence on these machines. They are not any bet­ter than voodoo. Look at the sci­ence. Good sci­ence should not lie, but he still wants to believe. There are other fac­tors that are mak­ing him con­vinced these machines are telling him the truth. I don’t what they are because I am not there, but if I said I loved G.Bush, Jr, I am sure I could get a $40 mil­lion dol­lar grant to prove you wrong.
    I will stick with the sci­ence and not what I want to believe.
    CJD

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