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Home » Sabra Tech » Camera Shoot

Camera Shoot

“In the near future, a sol­dier who needs a quick look over the next hill will be able to aim his rifle sky­ward, fire a grenade-​​sized recon­nais­sance device and instantly receive imagery on his pocket com­puter,” writes Defense News’ Barbara Opall-​​Rome.
firefly.jpg“No spe­cial train­ing or adap­ta­tion equip­ment is nec­es­sary” to fire the Firefly, from Israel’s Rafael Armament Development Authority, or Israel Military Industry’s Reconnaissance Rifle Grenade.
Grunts just fire the dis­pos­able “bal­lis­tic cam­eras” from “standard-​​issue M203 grenade launch­ers attached to M16 or other assault rifles,” and then wait for the pic­tures to come back, 8 sec­onds and 600 meters later.
In this way, the bal­lisitc cam­eras a lot like the pint-​​sized drones which have become so pop­u­lar among American com­pany com­man­ders in Iraq.
In 2002, the U.S. Army had 25 year-​​long Raven unmanned mini-​​planes; today, com­pany and pla­toon chiefs are using about 800 in com­bat.
“Why the boom?” I asked in Wired a few months back.

Eyes in the sky keep sol­diers from get­ting killed. “The way you used to get intel on the bat­tle­field was you fought for it, send­ing your squad into a build­ing, forc­ing your way in,” says for­mer Army cap­tain Phillip Carter. Now com­pany com­man­ders can see around cor­ners and over hills — a God’s-eye per­spec­tive that once was the domain of gen­er­als, with their Predators, manned spy planes, and satellites.

The Ravens are sim­ple to use — one of the best-​​known oper­a­tors is a cook. But, with no guid­ance sys­tem to oper­ate, the bal­lis­tic cam­eras would be eas­ier still: “point and shoot,” to use a cliche. Which means the abil­ity to see a bat­tle­zone from above could shift from a gen­eral to a cap­tain to a buck pri­vate, rifle in hand.

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  1. Pedestrian says:
    August 2, 2005 at 10:36 pm

    The ques­tion is its cost, and reusabil­ity. It is likely cheap but if it is only use­ful sev­eral times, the life cost might be worse than com­pared with UAV even those cheap like CyberBug. If that is not a prob­lem, it may be worth a try.

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  2. Walter E. Wallis says:
    August 3, 2005 at 11:11 am

    This needs to be a throw­away, cheap enough so we don’t have to stint on their use.

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  3. The Cenobyte says:
    August 3, 2005 at 1:56 pm

    TOC (Total cost of own­er­ship) is some­thing I am very famil­iar with being an IT guy. The TOC on a item like this is a bit like cal­cu­tat­ing the worth of insur­ance. If you never need it, it’s a huge waste of money, when you do it’s worth dozens of times more than it’s cost.
    I say unless the cost of this item is very much higher than tra­di­tional UAVs they should roll them out as the use of some­thing that can be at the fire team level is likely so high (How much is Pvt. Joe worth again?)

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  4. eujinn says:
    August 3, 2005 at 8:45 pm

    I reckon RC (remote con­trolled) chop­pers or devices such as the X-​​UFO should be per­fected, made cheaper and smaller…then fit­ted with cam­eras. That way the mil­i­tary will have reusable, accu­rate and reli­able means of retriev­ing sur­veil­lance info quickly and eas­ily. The X-​​UFO for instance can move the same way a chop­per can, but is qui­eter and eas­ier to control.

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  5. Kevin says:
    August 5, 2005 at 3:56 am

    So, the “basic grunt” now will have to carry a PDA with screen big enough to watch the images, (gprs attached so he can send data to fire sup­port units) Medtech? Yup. Water, food, ammo, a small tent… HUD in the hel­met, ceramic plates in the west, cam­eras on rifles, cam­eras in grenades, Radio, cables, bat­ter­ies, TAG gear? Yeah those too… laser-​​sights and “point­ers”… and a 16 wheeler to carry all this stuff while he fights.
    The “wired” sol­dier con­cept is get­ting way too sophi­as­ti­cated for actual com­bat.
    Then comes a guy with min­i­mum armor and a good old AK and ruins your day.
    Still it can be a good add-​​on… but not for a line sol­dier. You WILL need train­ing, not to use the device, but in small units tac­tics, as what to use FOR. Old infantry teams had grunts, a heavy gun­ner (MG), an anti armor guy, and a medtech.
    As pre­ci­sion mis­siles and TAG tech­nol­ogy improves, you need no anti-​​tank gear…just a laser and a radio to call the suport fire. So you can switch this guy for the above men­tioned oper­a­tor… (or even an ECM-​​ECCM sol­dier if the trend esca­lates so fast.)

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  6. Raven says:
    August 7, 2005 at 10:52 pm

    This seems like a huge waste of time/​money. the aver­age grunt will never use one his com­man­der will say they are just to expen­cive to use and with bud­get cuts and all and by the time you shoot round. the pic gets back 8 sec later and your commander’s aid gets the info from intel whom then “advises” your com­man­ders aid who give the info to the commander(and gets it all wrong) who then radios the gunny who then tells the cpl who .. wait 2 days have passed and every thing has changed. Where this is good is a quick over shoot of the ene­mies base.. wait we use sat’s for that Nvm. Yea these are a bril­liant piece of junk and good for the kids to play with.

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  7. jimbo92107 says:
    September 14, 2005 at 3:19 am

    I think it should be recharge­able and reusable, so lit­tle kids can play with them. In most of the bat­tle zones where we send US troops, a lot of homes are flat­tened by grenades, mor­tars, etc. So, let kids play with the cool lit­tle drones.

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  8. usschallenger says:
    June 4, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    I think that they are good ideas.If some one can toss a video grenade into a room before going into it that is always a good thing. The only thing that I say is that they should add a small explo­sive charge to it, just so that when it is done trasns­mit­ting it won’t fall into the wrong hands so that they can take it apart and fig­ure out how to jam the signal.

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