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Home » Planes, Copters, Blimps » Giant Blimp on the Rise

Giant Blimp on the Rise

The idea is pretty wild, even for the dream­ers at Darpa: build a giant blimp that can haul 1,800 sol­diers and their gear 12,000 nau­ti­cal miles, in less than a week.
wired_blimp.jpgBut the Pentagon’s research arm is seri­ous enough about the project, code-​​named Walrus, to hand out more than $6 mil­lion to Lockheed Martin and Aeros Aeronautical Group to start design­ing the thing.
The Defense Department has renewed its inter­est in blimps in recent years; a pair of teth­ered air­ships kept watch over the giant American mil­i­tary com­plex near the Baghdad air­port, when I was there. The “tri-​​phibian” (air, land, sea) Walrus is par­tic­u­larly intrigu­ing because the Pentagon is try­ing to fig­ure out ways to make American forces less reliant on deep-​​water ports, for­eign bases, and billion-​​dollar air­ports to wage war. The Army’s Surface Deployment and Distribution Command has its own plans for a such an air­ship.
Darpa hopes the designs they’ve just funded will lead to a small-​​scale Walrus, capa­ble of cart­ing 30 tons, by 2008, Defense Industry Daily notes. That’s as much as today’s C-​​130 trans­port planes. But it’s only a frac­tion of the mil­lion pounds that the agency wants the Walrus will ulti­mately be able to lug around.
(Illustration by John MacNeill, used with premission.)

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  1. Byron Skinner says:
    August 31, 2005 at 2:17 pm

    Good Morning Russell,
    A great post on “Hydrogen Airships” unfor­tu­nately the post is dicussing “Helium Blimps”, not unlike the kind that fly over NFL games.
    The U.S. Navy used “Blimps” well up into the 1950’s as an ASW plat­from. Although of ques­tion­able effec­tiv­ness, I believe that only a sin­gle U Boat sink­ing was attrib­uted to a Blimp dur­ing WWII. Blimps are cheap and can loi­ter over an area for as long as the crew can stand it.
    Any future uses for Blimps might be as unmanned: com­mu­ni­ca­tions relays, osber­va­tion plat­forms or for elec­tronic counter mea­sures. The idea of using lighter then air for trans­porta­tion of men and mate­ri­als or as a weapons plat­form has kind of had its day.
    The advan­tages of Blimps are that they are portable and cheap, the draw backs are the num­ber of ground sup­port per­sonal and facil­i­ties required to keep them in the air and of course the make great tar­gets.
    ALLONS,
    Byron Skinner
    “Stewart’s Platoon”

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  2. The Cenobyte says:
    August 31, 2005 at 4:08 pm

    Personally I see heavy lift blimps as a great idea. They could eas­ily be faster than ships and don’t require a deep port and can even move inland (Fighting a war in cen­tral Europe or Africa would not require long con­voys to the bat­tle). They are also lik­ley to be cheaper to oper­ate than heavy lift air­craft in just main­tanance and are much cheaper than fixed or rotor craft for mov­ing cargo. (Fuel, oil, Heleum costs). Beyond that the flex­a­bil­ity of being able to land any­where there is a few foot­ball fields of open space is huge. (It’s like a VTOL con­tainer ship) They would not be great as Skinner said for the bat­tle field itself but nei­ther are cargo ships.
    And that is leav­ing out all the uses it has in smaller forms.

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  3. My 2Cents says:
    August 31, 2005 at 5:13 pm

    Another use for blimps: Cellular “Tower“
    Imagine 3–4 of these over New Orleans: peo­ple can talk again.
    Good use as well: plat­form to launch /​ refuel MV-​​22 Ospreys
    A good name: “Shoothere” or “Gonewithewind”

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  4. conrad says:
    August 31, 2005 at 5:23 pm

    They just closed the Tustin MCAS near me a cou­ple years back, and it has two gigan­tic blimp hangars in it. They’re local land­marks. At least one is sched­uled to be torn down at unknown cost. I bet they start need­ing blimp hangars around the time it’s rubble.

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  5. Murc says:
    August 31, 2005 at 6:26 pm

    So does this mean that Lockheed has won? Because I know there are (or were) oth­ers in the run­ning for the USAF Walrus project, a cou­ple are world Skycat & Millenium Airships, I liked both of there concepts…I dont even think I have seen Lockheeds Walrus Concept.….I bet it would be cheaper to go with some­thing other then lockheed…but I guess the AF thinks it might be cheaper since there all­ready giv­ing them money for the HAA.

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  6. Frank Hammer says:
    September 1, 2005 at 7:13 am

    If they had board­able ones in New York on September 11, 2001, could they have deployed quickly enough to pluck peo­ple from the rooftops?
    Not likely but still in New Orleans they would be an out­stand­ing asset right now. If they have the alti­tude to get out of range of shoul­der fired mis­siles, they would be an out­stand­ing addition.

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  7. Dayon says:
    September 1, 2005 at 2:21 pm

    The skin of cur­rently made blimps is artif­i­cally col­ored. It is the same mate­r­ial that was used in the Glossimer Albetrois and the Solar Challenger. The mate­r­ial can be made totally trans­par­ent. Then the only parts that would be vis­able would be the gon­dola, motor­works, and what it was car­ry­ing. They also have an extremely lower radar sig­na­ture. More infor­ma­tion on the mate­r­ial can be had from DuPont.
    Check out some of the back issues of Popular Mech, Popular Science, Aviation Magazine on LTAS (Lighter Than Air Ships) for more information.

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  8. Greg says:
    September 1, 2005 at 4:55 pm

    Blimps orig­i­nally went to the weigh­side for a few rea­sons, namely speed. blimps aren’t fast, faster than sea based ships yes, but not faster than heli­copters –which from a mil­i­tary stand­point is what really took the place of blimps– I think many peo­ple have felt they put the blimp to rest too soon and I’d agree. A blimp as a mobile C&C plat­form with troop and equip­ment transport-​​where speed is not of a con­cern– is an idea long over­due. although giant tar­gets and not what i would rec­om­mend for hov­er­ing over down­town Kabul with a gen­eral or two in it, its a good idea. Blimps as an Offensive weapon is not a good idea.
    As for the cur­rent res­cue mis­sion in New Orleans, why not use the military’s cur­rent heavy trans­port hov­er­crafts? They seem ideal to me.

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  9. Marcus Shiffler says:
    October 20, 2005 at 11:06 am

    I’d lay odds the Air Force might imag­ine F/​A-​​18D “Super Hornet” makes a right dandy trans­port plane. And I’d lay odds they dis­like the C-​​5 despite its effe­cien­cies and pur­poses, because it is “The only plane in the mil­i­tary that gets down on all fours and takes it from both ends” dur­ing load­ing.
    Whatever prac­ti­cal pur­pose these blimps may have, I don’t believe the gov­ern­ment is capa­ble of employ­ing it to that pur­pose, if only from pes­simism of where I see a lot of mil­i­tary money going, some­times.
    Still, it isn’t a bad idea. Heck, its prob­a­bly a great idea. But I’d lay odds its’n more likely someone’s idea of a deploy­able spe­cial strike force, or an aer­ial armed empire of ZEPP. … Not good uses.

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  10. Joe Katzman says:
    October 21, 2005 at 8:24 am

    Lockheed won because the bid­der was the Lockheed Skunk Works (ADP), who devel­oped the U-​​2, SR-​​71, et. al. There isn’t a more respected name in avi­a­tion any­where in the world if you’re going for a break­through, and DARPA is.
    Aeros must have had a very good pro­posal to be the #2.
    Defense Industry Daily’s in-​​depth pro­file on the Walrus project includes a note re: Milennium Airships, which may have lost the bid but could def­i­nitely remain involved in the project.
    Finally, I’m really sorry SkyCat didn’t win because they seem to have a very good grasp of the civil­ian end, and civil­ian HULA pro­duc­tion would help in a num­ber of ways. I hope they go on to suc­ceed in the civil mar­ket, and pick up some mil­i­tary con­tracts for bor­der sur­veil­lance SkyCat-​​20s as well.
    Long term, I think the US Army would be wise to think about kick-​​starting an indus­try here. Wouldn’t be the first time — not even for inflatables…

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  11. Joe Katzman says:
    October 21, 2005 at 8:26 am

    Here’s the DID in-​​depth pro­file link for the Walrus Program:
    http://​www​.defen​sein​dus​try​daily​.com/​2​0​0​5​/​1​0​/​w​a​l​r​u​s​-​h​e​a​v​y​l​i​f​t​-​b​l​i​m​p​-​g​e​t​t​i​n​g​-​o​f​f​-​t​h​e​-​g​r​o​u​n​d​/​i​n​d​e​x​.​php
    And here’s a good “kick-​​start an indus­try” exam­ple:
    http://​www​.defen​sein​dus​try​daily​.com/​2​0​0​5​/​0​5​/​s​s​c​-​d​e​v​e​l​o​p​i​n​g​-​m​u​l​t​i​p​l​e​-​u​s​e​s​-​f​o​r​-​a​i​r​b​e​a​m​-​t​e​c​h​n​o​l​o​g​y​/​i​n​d​e​x​.​php
    Lots of uses for con­fined gas these days. A nat­ural idea, I guess, being in Washington.…

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  12. Ed says:
    February 1, 2006 at 5:02 am

    1) I’d like to see these used for fight­ing wild­fires out west. Five or six of these units custom-​​fitted with sprin­kler lines (mak­ing it look more like a daddy-​​longlegs than a wal­rus) can sur­round an area and lay down a steady drizzle/​downpour until the blaze burns itself out. It seems to me that a few thou­sand tons of water con­cen­trated over the fire­zone could last a week­end or more.
    2) This whole idea reminds me of Bucky Fuller’s the­o­ret­i­cal Clond Nines: http://​www​.jer​ry​pour​nelle​.com/​a​r​c​h​i​v​e​s​2​/​a​r​c​h​i​v​e​s​2​m​a​i​l​/​m​a​i​l​3​1​1​.​h​t​m​l​#​N​ine

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  13. Ben Nelson says:
    June 19, 2007 at 7:27 pm

    Build thou­sands of midget size sur­vai­lence blimps and watch every street in Bagdad and every place needed to stop IEDs. Ben Nelson USAF retired

    Reply
  14. cheap kamas says:
    August 15, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    I spend many time to play this game and spend much money to bought the cheap kamas, although in order to her I give up many chance, but in my mind I did not had a lit­tle sad or regret, because I know that she was worth me to love.

    Reply
  15. dofus gold says:
    August 15, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    At that time I do not know how to play this game, noth­ing to know, all things I will asked her, at the begin­ning we were very happy, we together to play and together to buy dofus gold but a long time after, she was not happy again, she thought that my level was lower

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  16. JONATHAN JONES says:
    April 5, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    THE HINDENBURG SHOULD BE REDESIGNED AND REBUILT. I’D LIKE TO SEE A MILE LONG BY A HALF MILE WIDE ONE IN THE SKY!!!

    Reply

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