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Home » 'Canes » Homeland Secure?

Homeland Secure?

We’ve all heard the term a zil­lion times. But what does “home­land secu­rity” mean, really?
Since 2001, when the phrase became part of our every­day vocab­u­lary, home­land secu­rity has been short­hand for pre­vent­ing, and respond­ing to, ter­ror­ists. Now Katrina has struck in New Orleans and in Mississippi. (Click here for a list of ways you can help.) The results, in terms of lives and prop­erty lost, are in the same cat­a­strophic class as 9/​11.
boat_nola.jpgBut the government’s reac­tion has been under­whelm­ing, Eric Tolbert, FEMA’s for­mer dis­as­ter response chief, tells Knight-​​Ridder (via TP). “Weakened by diver­sion into ter­ror­ism,” he says.

Federal flood con­trol spend­ing for south­east­ern Louisiana has been chopped from $69 mil­lion in 2001 to $36.5 mil­lion in 2005, accord­ing to bud­get doc­u­ments. Federal hur­ri­cane pro­tec­tion for the Lake Pontchartrain vicin­ity in the Army Corps of Engineers’ bud­get dropped from $14.25 mil­lion in 2002 to $5.7 mil­lion this year. Louisiana Democratic Sen. Mary Landrieu requested $27 mil­lion this year.
Both the
New Orleans Times-​​Picayune news­pa­per and a local busi­ness mag­a­zine reported that the effects of the bud­get cuts at the Army Corps of Engineers were severe.
In 2004, the Corps essen­tially stopped major work on the now-​​breached levee sys­tem that had pro­tected New Orleans from flood­ing. It was the first such stop­page in 37 years, the
Times-​​Picayune reported…
The Army Corps’ New Orleans office, fac­ing a $71 mil­lion cut, also elim­i­nated funds to pay for a study on how to pro­tect the Crescent City from a Category 5 storm, New Orleans City Business reported in June…
[I]n the 1990s, in plan­ning for a New Orleans night­mare sce­nario, the fed­eral gov­ern­ment fig­ured it would pre-​​deploy nearby ships with pumps to remove water from the below-​​sea-​​level city and have hos­pi­tal ships nearby, said James Lee Witt, who was FEMA direc­tor under President Clinton.
Federal offi­cials said a hos­pi­tal ship would leave from Baltimore on Friday. 

Hopefully, Katrina will trig­ger a larger con­ver­sa­tion about what it means to keep America safe. Maybe funds for cop­ing with nat­ural dis­as­ters won’t be so hard to come by. Maybe some of those bil­lions taken out of flu and TB research can be rein­stated. Maybe we can have a more have a more hon­est assess­ment of where risk really lies.

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  1. Tom Ames says:
    September 1, 2005 at 11:45 am

    Someone on TPM pointed this out: wouldn’t you expect that part of Homeland Security’s brief would be to han­dle large num­ber of refugees? As would be expected after a major ter­ror­ist inci­dent, for exam­ple?
    So where are they?

    Reply
  2. Bret says:
    September 1, 2005 at 12:35 pm

    Sigh. Everyone always asks “What can gov­ern­ment do for me?”

    Reply
  3. kneeslider says:
    September 1, 2005 at 12:40 pm

    Please feel free to make an unerr­ing set of pre­dic­tions about where the next unex­pected dis­as­ters will strike so we can be sure to spend the money in the right place.

    Reply
  4. Matt says:
    September 1, 2005 at 2:03 pm

    Regarding, “Sigh. Everyone always asks “What can gov­ern­ment do for me?” “:
    The government’s job is to orga­nize and do for peo­ple what they can’t nor­mally do for or by them­selves. Without gov­ern­ment you’d be liv­ing in anar­chy, dig­ging your own well for drink­ing water (thank you corp of engi­neers), and dri­ving your car over rut­ted dirt roads.
    What can gov­ern­ment do for me? They do a lot.
    I think the point of the above arti­cle is that divert­ing money away from infra­struc­ture and dis­as­ter relief agen­cies to a new home­land secu­rity agency that has a poorly defined mis­sion is a good way for us to shoot our­selves in the foot.

    Reply
  5. The Cenobyte says:
    September 1, 2005 at 2:35 pm

    I have to won­der why peo­ple didn’t leave. It seems to me that 90% of the prob­lem right now is that almost all the resources are going to find­ing peo­ple stranded. They didn’t leave when they where sup­pose to and now my tax dol­lars are being spent to res­cue them (Not to men­tion my tax dol­lars going to pay for flood dam­age). This will sound bad but I think we should worry about the peo­ple that made an effort to help them­selves before those that left them­selves out to dry and now expect the govt. to fix it for them.
    Personally I don’t like the idea of my tax dol­lars going to shoring up against flood­ing a city that is below sea, lake and river level 365 days a year and like even less that they will spend tax dol­lars fix­ing it and then pay ‘insur­ance’ money to peo­ple to rebuild in the same spot.
    Matt, I am per­son­ally with Bret on this one. The coun­try is not sup­posed to be here to serve you because you are too lazy to do it your­self. Roads, wells, the like are pub­lic infurstruc­ture, pluck­ing your dumb ass off the roof of your house after a flood you knew was com­ing is not a pub­lic ser­vice.
    These peo­ple are about to get bil­lions of dol­lars in relief, much of it from the local, state and fed govt. because of their loss. But if my house was destroyed tomor­row I would get noth­ing. What makes these peo­ple worth more than me?

    Reply
  6. Murc says:
    September 1, 2005 at 3:26 pm

    “The results, in terms of lives and prop­erty lost, are in the same cat­a­strophic class as 9/​11.“
    you cant com­pare the two. One is a nat­ural disaster…the other an act of war. and we have no real num­bers on the dead…its all wild spec­u­la­tion. and BTW, This is far more dam­age then 9/​11.
    I think the gov needs to work a lit­tle harder…but they are doing a pretty good job. Its ashame that theres so much loot­ing going around…and now the news is show­ing that peo­ple are burn­ing down houses in an attempt to get the gov­ern­ments atten­tion to the huge problem…as if they dont all­ready know.
    anyway…It will all be fixed up in time…and I really hope that the new Levi’s that they build in the com­ing year or two are able to with­stand cat­e­gory 5.

    Reply
  7. Lally Singh says:
    September 1, 2005 at 3:39 pm

    NYTimes​.com has a nice info­graphic that men­tions income, pop­u­la­tion, and race data over the var­i­ous parts. Lots and lots of peo­ple were too poor to afford leav­ing. No mat­ter that they lost more now, when you’re very low on cash, you start tak­ing risks to save it. Is it their own fault? That’s debat­able but my answer’s no — they’re just being human.
    As for the gov­ern­ment need­ing some list of cer­tain nat­ural dis­as­ters, the like­li­hood of some­thing severe was pretty well known, yet the work done to secure the area was essen­tially cut off.
    Salon​.com | “No one can say they didn’t see it coming”

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  8. Lally Singh says:
    September 1, 2005 at 3:40 pm

    Looks like the url to that arti­cle was lost:
    http://​salon​.com/​o​p​i​n​i​o​n​/​b​l​u​m​e​n​t​h​a​l​/​2​0​0​5​/​0​8​/​3​1​/​d​i​s​a​s​t​e​r​_​p​r​e​p​a​r​a​t​i​o​n​/​i​n​d​e​x​.​h​tml

    Reply
  9. Byron Skinner says:
    September 1, 2005 at 4:29 pm

    Good Afternoon,
    NORTHCOM gets it’s first mis­sion and blows it. While the Gulf Coast was drown­ing NORTHCOM did noth­ing not even any prep for the mis­sion every­one knew was com­ming.
    Why?
    The Admirals and Generals remem­ber all to well what hap­pen to two Naval Officers dur­ing the wild­fires of 2003 in Calfornia. There offi­cers on their own moved and pre-​​positioned a Navy Aero Fire Fighting Squadron so that when the word came to go they were ready.
    Instead of get­ting met­als for tak­ing the ini­ta­tive both offi­cers were relieved of their com­mands and give let­ters of reper­mand, careers over.
    You don’t screw with this Bush Administration. It doesn’t mat­ter if thou­sands are dieing as an offi­cer you sit and wait for the President to act.
    No one gets away with mak­ing President Bush look fool­ish, no one.
    ALLONS,
    Byron Skinner
    “Stewart’s Platoon”

    Reply
  10. Marshall Astor says:
    September 1, 2005 at 5:01 pm

    The big issue here, is that we need to take an objec­tive look at how using our resources ben­e­fits the most peo­ple. In terms of dam­age, Katrina, or any other large nat­ural dis­as­ter dwarfs the kinds of attacks that ter­ror­ists are likely to inflict on the United States (includ­ing 9/​11). I’ve always been enthu­si­as­tic for the “ele­phant” model of deal­ing with ter­ror­ists, that is, we largely ignore them, as their real world effects are minor com­pared to the real prob­lems that gov­ern­ment needs to be address­ing at all times.
    Is a bil­lion spent to pre­vent one ter­ror­ist attack that kills a few hun­dred peo­ple (imag­in­ing a major inci­dent here) worth it when the same bil­lion would save count­less lives and eco­nomic resources when nat­ural dis­as­ters strike? The prob­lem with the “War on Terror” from an eco­nomic stand­point, is that you can have an infi­nitely large invest­ment and still be sub­ject to attacks. Whereas, we know that if you spend money on dis­as­ter pre­pared­ness, edu­ca­tion, health care, or social wel­fare pro­grams, there are mea­sur­able ben­e­fits that reflect your invest­ment and save more lives than will ever be taken in a ter­ror­ist attack or series of attacks.

    Reply
  11. uurf says:
    September 1, 2005 at 6:36 pm

    “Please feel free to make an unerr­ing set of pre­dic­tions about where the next unex­pected dis­as­ters will strike so we can be sure to spend the money in the right place.“
    Well in 2001 FEMA esti­mated that a cat 5 hur­ri­cane in NO would be one of the three biggest (and most likely) dis­as­ters…
    And the weather ser­vice had sev­eral days to warn that a big storm was com­ing…
    Why is it again that relief assets (water trucks, med­ical sup­plies, gen­er­a­tors, refugee camps) weren’t placed close enough but out of harms way (as they were for Andrew)? Oh right, because 80,000 Guardsman are in Iraq, $200b are in Iraq, and no one in the evis­cer­ated FEMA has any expe­ri­ence deal­ing with actual dis­as­ters (being a police­man and lawyer, that they got in spades). And because no one told W that it wouldn’t look good to be learn­ing a G chord while peo­ple were dying on rooftops dur­ing the after­math of a hur­ri­cane.
    gg gw

    Reply
  12. Tom Ames says:
    September 1, 2005 at 6:51 pm

    kneeslider:
    The same could be said about a ter­ror­ist attack. So you’d agree, I assume, that the NO sit­u­a­tion reveals the administration’s incom­pe­tence and lack of plan­ning?
    Or would they have responded dif­fer­ently if this had been a dirty bomb attack on New Orleans?

    Reply
  13. cirby says:
    September 1, 2005 at 7:14 pm

    “Why is it again that relief assets (water trucks, med­ical sup­plies, gen­er­a­tors, refugee camps) weren’t placed close enough but out of harms way (as they were for Andrew)? Oh right, because 80,000 Guardsman are in Iraq,“
    Actually, it’s less than that, and since you men­tioned it, if the other QUARTER-​​MILLION Guardsmen can’t han­dle it, what makes you think the rest will help, espe­cially since we’ve only deployed 30,000 in the dis­as­ter area so far (more would just get in each other’s way)?
    There *were* prepo­si­tion­ings going on. The President declared the dis­as­ter *Saturday* (a full day before the Mayor of NO even announced the manda­tory evac­u­a­tion). Supplies started mov­ing that night. It takes days to get things mov­ing in the right direc­tion, and with the foot­print of pos­si­ble impacts, you can’t put those things any­where near the pos­si­ble dis­as­ter areas.
    The relief sup­plies were *not*, by any stretch, pre­de­ployed when Andrew hit in 1992. They called peo­ple up, and started look­ing at what to do, but it was much slower. It took almost five days before they saw half as much response as we saw yes­ter­day alone.
    After Katrina, major roads and bridges were blocked or destroyed. It took a cou­ple of days to clear those hun­dreds of miles of Interstates alone.
    You’re talk­ing about deploy­ing 20,000 to 30,000 troops, and lit­er­ally thou­sands of tons of sup­plies, before you can even *think* about “doing” stuff.
    Lo and behold, we’re start­ing to see results. Post-​​disaster evac started yes­ter­day. Troops are start­ing to get in.
    Except, for some reaon, you missed it.

    Reply
  14. rush says:
    September 1, 2005 at 11:12 pm

    “Its theyre [sic] poli­cies as to why WE DONT HAVE ENOUGH GASOLINE & the 3.00 gal in CA today.
    Blame the Eco Movement.
    Blame Sierra Club, EPA, etc for our NO Gasoline event IE 1973 again.“
    Nice ditto-​​head argu­ment.
    Is it so dif­fi­cult to under­stand that given a sup­ply and demand prob­lem, you can attack the prob­lem from either side? Reduce demand and the sup­ply becomes suf­fi­cient?
    I real­ize that’s tricky, but I’m sure with some effort you’ll grasp it.

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