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Home » FCS Watch » Slow, Fat “Future” for Army

Slow, Fat “Future” for Army

It’s offi­cial: After $450 bil­lion, the Army’s quick-​​moving force of the future will be just about as slow as the one that’s around right now.
As I noted in June, one of the big ideas behind the Army’s mas­sive mod­ern­iza­tion effort, Future Combat Systems, was to make American troops more mobile able to get around the world in a mat­ter of days or weeks, instead of the months that are needed now.
Mortar2004-10-19.jpgThe first step: slim down the service’s can­non and armored vehi­cles. Today, it takes a gar­gan­tuan C-​​17 or C-​​5 trans­port plane to lug a sin­gle, 32-​​ton Paladin 155 mm how­itzer. Army plan­ners wanted the Paladin’s next-​​gen replace­ment to weigh in at 19 tons or less so one could fit inside a much smaller C-​​130 trans­port plane, instead.
After danc­ing around the issue for a cou­ple of months, the Army has now del­cared that nei­ther the Paladin replace­ment nor any other FCS vehi­cle is going to fit into a C-​​130, accord­ing to Defense News’ Greg Grant. And that “appears to aban­don the fun­da­men­tal ratio­nale for FCS, which was intended to speed Army brigades to com­bat zones around the world within 96 hours.”

The Army cre­ated the FCS con­cept about five years ago, after long delays in deploy­ing a small air-​​ground task force to the Balkans raised ques­tions about the ser­vices strate­gic rel­e­vance. Under Gen. Eric Shinseki, the Armys for­mer chief of staff, the ser­vice scram­bled for lighter armored vehi­cles to replace heavy Abrams tanks and Bradley fight­ing vehi­cles…
[Army Secretary Francis] Harveys announce­ment appears to con­firm that the Army does not have the tech­nol­ogy to allow lighter vehi­cles to sur­vive future anti-​​armor threats. This is in part a real­iza­tion born of tough losses in Iraq, where 70-​​ton Abrams and Bradleys have been lost to road­side explo­sives and rocket-​​propelled grenades.

But more than FCS’ weight require­ment has changed. As recently as last year, the pro­gram was slated to cost $92 bil­lion. Then, sud­denly, that esti­mate bal­looned — first to $127 bil­lion, and next to $145 bil­lion. Finally, we were told that this gar­gan­tuan sum would only pay for trans­form­ing a third or less of the Army.
And what would be so dif­fer­ent, after all that cash was spent? When the pro­gram first got started, the armored vehi­cles were not only going to be light — they were going to be electric-​​powered. And they were going to fire laser weapons. Now, all of that has been dropped, under­stand­ably.
But even the more basic changes have seemed near-​​impossible to pull off. The effort to get all sol­diers on a com­mon radio, for exam­ple, is fac­ing mas­sive restruc­tur­ing, after the project’s main con­trac­tor, Boeing, seems to have flushed $5 bil­lion and three years worth of work down the toi­let.
“The gov­ern­ment has not seen suf­fi­cient evi­dence of the con­trac­tor teams under­stand­ing of the scale of inte­gra­tion required to ulti­mately achieve the pro­gram require­ments,” the Army told Boeing in an April let­ter. “Nor has the indus­try team dis­played suf­fi­cient abil­ity to esti­mate a cost and sched­ule base­line and rig­or­ously man­age to that base­line.“
In other words, the radio project has become slow and bloated. Just like the rest of FCS.

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  1. Freethinker_LIRN says:
    September 13, 2006 at 10:50 pm

    Maybe instead of design­ing whole new vehi­cles a low power point defense laser sys­tem could be mounted on exist­ing vehi­cles and used to det­o­nate RPGs before they hit. It could be made out of cur­rently exist­ing tech­nol­ogy, cer­tainly for less than those 450 bil­lion. The com­plex part would be devel­op­ing an auto­matic fire sys­tem that could react on time but i’m pretty sure with those kinds of funds it could be done.

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  2. Nameless says:
    July 25, 2007 at 1:06 pm

    The way I look at it, we are try­ing to solve a pol­icy prob­lem with a tech­no­log­i­cal solu­tion.
    We want faster global deploy­ment with less casaul­ties.
    So the obvi­ous solu­tion is to rely on our strate­gic arse­nal and pun­ish the aggres­sors. When a con­ven­tional response is needed, hire some cheap local thugs/​criminals and mer­ce­nar­ies and get it done on the cheap. Plus, these guys are totally disposable.….no need for “infor­ma­tional dom­i­nance”.
    I will guar­an­tee you it will be cheaper than $45B.
    A mil­i­tary force should be used as a pur­veyor of death and destruc­tion, no more, no less.

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  3. joehudsonjr@earthlink.net says:
    September 16, 2007 at 7:09 pm

    it sounds like we need my com­man­der n chief-REAGEN.THE M-​​109 IS OLD AND OUT DATED.we need the CRUSADER.

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  4. SWP says:
    September 11, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    We have a fast rapid response mil­i­tary force…it’s called the Marine Corps. Idk why the army is even try­ing to move into the Corps area of exper­tise. The Army’s job is to be the big slow lum­ber­ing force of “heavy infantry” and heavy armor units that go in and hold ter­ri­tory and launch large scale mil­i­tary actions against ene­mies. The Army is NOT our/​should not be our quick response force. Forcing them into that role just cre­ates a large, bloated, and redun­dant force. If we are to go through and make the Army a pri­mar­ily light infantry force rather than a heavy mech­a­nized force then we either need to fold them into the Marines or vice versa; it just becomes redun­dant and expen­sive to oper­ate two ser­vices that will have basi­cally the same mis­sion plan If you want a rapid response force look no fur­ther than the Marine Expeditionary Force(s) that are deployed around the world. They are already lighter, & faster. Basically to sum it all up: Marines=Light Rapid Response force that can react quickly to hot spots around the world, but they can’t hold ground for inde­fi­nate peri­ods of time…that’s where the Army comes in the big heavy force that moves in after the Marines have secured a foothold for the big hit­ters to move in and fin­ish up. Marine=Light Army=Heavy why change a win­ning formula?

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  5. justin milam says:
    January 14, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    im sick of this army crap, ive never herd a soilder shut up with this “marines arent that good”. NO there bet­ter then army its all about speed and inten­sity which the army doesnt have, but dont get me wrong my dad was army spe­cial forces, he was a ranger and a real killer in paint­ball, but a marine fresh from basic put my dad to shame. basicly i dont hear marines talk crap cus they are marines, army talks crap cus they can never be marines, most amry soilders are rejected marines any­how its not the other way around
    Email me, i love to argue if you disagree

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  6. Steve says:
    May 24, 2009 at 11:42 am

    Justin Milam, either your daddy wasn’t Army SF or your just a fool. Army SF would pum­mel the liv­ing s#@% out of a marine any day. A marine fresh out of boot has lim­ited expe­ri­ence in any­thing. Bootcamp is NOT com­bat train­ing. In boot­camp you learn some fight­ing, and some shoot­ing. But as an Army SF sol­dier you are an EXPERT in hand to hand com­bat, in weapons, and about 20 other items. So shut your mouth you igno­rant fools. You are all around 15 years old and play too many video game SHUT YOUR MOUTHS!

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  7. justin milam says:
    June 9, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    first i dont hate on the army for god sake, the in there for the same rea­son as any­one in any branch sec­ond my father was a army sf iv seen him beet the liv­ing crap out of many before him and i see a lot of wis­dom in him and third you are right about boot camp in marines its just basic skills not try­ing to stuff as much in themm and send them off to war, its said the only thing equall to a marine is an army ranger none are bet­ter then eachother but a reg­u­lar army soilder fresh from basic and a marine fresh from basic easy pickn for that marine. so you can whine about it are you can suck it up (like a marine) and Acknowledge those marines and what they joined the marines for( if you think the army is so tough then why does the army have to com­pare there spe­cial forces to a nor­mal marine{not that theres any­thing nor­mal about them}that does not sound to tough)

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  8. Panther6170 says:
    September 7, 2009 at 6:43 am

    I MUSS ZIB

    Reply
  9. Panther6170 says:
    September 7, 2009 at 6:44 am

    I MUSS ZIB

    Reply

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