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Home » Money Money Money » Pentagon Weasels on Armor Payback

Pentagon Weasels on Armor Payback

Everyone in uni­form knows that life ain’t fair — that, sooner or later, the gov­ern­ment they’re try­ing to defend is going to mess with them, some­how. Set up road­blocks. Make their mis­sion harder. Treat them less than fairly. It’d be crazy to expect any­thing less from a bureau­cracy as giant and dis­jointed as the Defense Department. So putting up with B.S. just another part of han­dling the job.
soldier-Back.JPGBut this — this is too much:

Soldiers and their par­ents are still spend­ing hun­dreds and some­times thou­sands of dol­lars for armor they say the mil­i­tary wont pro­vide. One U.S. sen­a­tor said Wednesday he will try again to force the Pentagon to obey the reim­burse­ment law it opposed from the out­set and has so far not imple­mented…
Your expec­ta­tion is that when you are sent to war, that our gov­ern­ment does every­thing they can do to pro­tect the lives of our peo­ple, and any­thing less than that is not good enough, said a for­mer Marine who spent nearly $1,000 two weeks ago to buy lower-​​body armor for his son, a Marine serv­ing in Fallujah.
The father asked that he be iden­ti­fied only by his first name Gordon because he is afraid of ret­ri­bu­tion against his son.
I wouldnt have cared if it cost us $10,000 to pro­tect our son, I would do it, said Gordon. But I think the U.S. has an oblig­a­tion to make sure they have this equip­ment and to reim­burse for it. I just dont sup­port Donald Rumsfelds idea of going to war with what you have, not what you want. You go to war pre­pared, and you dont go to war until you are pre­pared.
Under the law passed by Congress last October, the Defense Department had until Feb. 25 to develop reg­u­la­tions for the reim­burse­ment, which is lim­ited to $1,100 per item. Pentagon offi­cials opposed the reim­burse­ment idea, call­ing it an unman­age­able prece­dent that will sad­dle the DOD with an open-​​ended finan­cial burden.

So wait, let me get this straight: reim­burs­ing 11 Bravos for their body armor is some­how “unman­age­able.” But sink­ing hun­dreds of bil­lions into a flail­ing, bloated mod­ern­iza­tion project that changes require­ments and dead­lines every cou­ple of months, that’s per­fectly OK? No, wrong. Helping sol­diers and marines fight today’s war isn’t a “bur­den.” It should be a pri­or­ity. The pri­or­ity.
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  1. Noah Shachtman says:
    September 30, 2005 at 11:28 am

    C:
    You’re right, it’d be a good idea to set up a fund for armor and other bat­tle­field basics. But indi­vid­ual warfight­ers also have to be trusted to decide what gear works best for them.
    nms

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  2. John says:
    September 30, 2005 at 12:44 pm

    The last I checked, there was plenty of body armor to go around in-​​theater, mean­ing the IBA’s with SAPI plates. There’s no need for this Marine to buy his own body armor. Granted, there is bet­ter armor avail­able for the money, but the Army sel­dom pro­vides the best that money can buy. It pro­vides rea­son­able pro­tec­tion, but there are trade-off’s. I went to Iraq with the old style flak jacket, but when I got there, I received the IBA with plates. That was in Apr 2003.

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  3. Rene says:
    September 30, 2005 at 2:33 pm

    This is wrong, but why am I not sur­prised after stand­ing by help­lessly watch­ing some­one I love strug­gle w/​ an ail­ment that has just recen­tely been “offi­cially” diag­nosed as Gulf War Syndrome.
    This is wrong on so many lev­els. I hope the peo­ple that read this after I post tell EVERYONE they love & care about to make SURE they have a copy of thier med­ical records QUEITLY, before they are dis­charged from duty. It is so impor­tant.
    This is why I pray daily for our ser­vice men & women. I am sad that thier lives are on the line daily & they are not taken care of before, dur­ing , & after.
    Godspeed to them 7 thier families.

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  4. sgm loar says:
    September 30, 2005 at 3:04 pm

    LOWER body armor that is the item that was bought that was your legs and pri­vates wont be blown off

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  5. giovanni says:
    September 30, 2005 at 9:03 pm

    I think that the prob­lem has been much wider.
    Every war has its lessons about equip­ment but this was a total fail­ure in antic­i­pat­ing the post inva­sion sce­nario. This kind of war was not some­thing planned to deal with. They were expect­ing flow­ers from the Iraqis for the sol­diers. They/​We are get­ting some­thing dif­fer­ent.
    This is why much of the equip­ment needed was not even thought to be use­full.
    As a con­se­quence we have seen many emer­gency orders of equip­ment that now is con­sid­ered basic. We have seen emer­gency solu­tions like recy­cled pro­tec­tive plates. All of this AFTER they real­ized how the real world was…
    Under this point of view we have to accept how the strate­gic plan­ners in Washington have failed. How the intel­li­gence has failed. How the Whitehouse have failed.
    And now we have to face real­ity…
    There is no way out that the Pentagon/​Whitehouse can con­trol. This level of engage­ment can not be sup­ported by the US for long and they have no idea of what this will end with…

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  6. Aaron says:
    October 2, 2005 at 12:22 am

    Just remem­ber– the Republiconmen sup­port our troops… if by “sup­port” you mean ‘do things that make it more likely that they get killed.”

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  7. max says:
    October 2, 2005 at 9:56 am

    Republicanconmen.….like Kerry-​​who voted against pur­chas­ing armor.…..
    He was a Republican all along!!!

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  8. consul-at-arms says:
    October 3, 2005 at 8:47 am

    While many/​most of the troops now in the field have the IBA fielded, dur­ing most of OIF 1 that was not the case. Many of us pur­chased commercially-​​available body armor, as the flak vests still being issued were not believed to be ade­quate pro­tec­tion. This is what we’d like to be re-​​imbursed for.

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  9. maxf says:
    October 3, 2005 at 12:54 pm

    I’m read­ing this arti­cle again, who is using the lower body armor?
    If you know someone-let’s here from you. When I saw that arti­cle all I could think was-“No gun­ner is ever going to sur­vive a rollover with that thing on.“
    At the time I pre­sumes it was the armor I saw in Stars & Stripes and it cer­tainly seemed to slow someone’s abil­ity to move.
    I’m not say­ing that peo­ple haven’t been screwed by the Army-​​but I’m bet­ting that most guys who are get­ting the lower part really are not using it much. I wouldn’t have-​​but that’s not say­ing there is no role for it.

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  10. Kalafan says:
    October 5, 2005 at 5:19 pm

    Is any of this supris­ing after almost a decade of Bill Clinton? I’m not try­ing to excuse the inept­ness and stu­pid­ity of the jerks in power now, but I’ll bet that eight years of the Slick Willy White House is par­tially to blame for sev­eral of the military’s cur­rent problems.

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