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Home » Money Money Money » Troops Cut, Weapons Safe?

Troops Cut, Weapons Safe?

A few weeks back, it looked like the Pentagon really might go after some of its biggest, fat­test weapons pro­grams with an axe. Now, that’s look­ing less likely.
inside_engine.jpgIn fact, the Wall Street Journal is report­ing that the Air Force is “look­ing to secure much of its sav­ings by cut­ting active and reserve forces, instead of slash­ing weapons purchases.”

To stay within its expected bud­get, the Air Force is plan­ning to cut at least 30,000, and per­haps as many as 40,000, uni­formed per­son­nel, civil­ians and contractor-​​support staff through fis­cal 2011, mil­i­tary offi­cials said…
The Army, which is bear­ing more of the bur­den of the war in Iraq, doesn’t envi­sion sim­i­lar per­son­nel cuts, but is explor­ing a mod­est slow­down in its plans for troop growth as it grap­ples with a recruit­ing short­fall… The Army’s cur­rent plan is to expand to 43 com­bat brigades from 33 by the end of 2007. The ser­vice, how­ever, is con­sid­er­ing either post­pon­ing or for­go­ing the addi­tion of one of those 5,000-soldier brigades next year. It also could cut as many as three National Guard brigades from a planned force of 34 com­bat brigades, said an Army offi­cial involved in prepar­ing the bud­get…
The shift is good news for the nation’s major defense con­trac­tors, which appear to have dodged major cut­backs in big-​​ticket weapons pur­chases… two of the costli­est future weapons sys­tems in Mr. England’s sights, the Air Force’s F-​​35 Joint Strike Fighter made by Lockheed and the Navy’s DDX destroyer made by Northrop and General Dynamics Corp., have escaped the guil­lo­tine in this bud­get cycle. The Army’s mar­quee mod­ern­iza­tion pro­gram, called Future Combat Systems and led by Boeing, also appears set to be spared from another major restruc­tur­ing.
A sys­tem of missile-​​warning satel­lites being built by Lockheed, years late and at a cost of more than three times as much as its ini­tial $3 bil­lion bud­get, once again is likely to sur­vive largely intact, accord­ing to Air Force and indus­try offi­cials famil­iar with the details. The Air Force appears ready to tell Congress that it believes man­age­ment short­com­ings have been cor­rected, the tech­nol­ogy is headed down the right path and there isn’t any viable alter­na­tive to push­ing ahead with development.

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  1. Byron Skinner says:
    December 5, 2005 at 6:37 pm

    Good Afternoon Folks,
    For a fol­low up see today’s WSJ, front page story “Pentagon Weights Personal Cuts to Pay for Weapons”, by Jonathan Karp, Andy Pasztor and Greg Jaffe. When the WSJ is con­cerned somone had bet­ter be lis­ten­ing.
    The last I saw al Qaeda didn’t have an Air Force or a Navy. Will some­one please tell the DoD that the “Cold War” is over and will the last sol­dier to leave please turn out the lights.
    ALLONS,
    Byron Skinner

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  2. rutty says:
    December 5, 2005 at 6:58 pm

    Byron, I believe that is the exact story to which this post refers. Something else in the jour­nal today the might be of interst thought is on of the edi­to­ri­als con­cern­ing Mssr. England’s appointment/​confirmation and a cer­tain sen­a­tor doing her darn­d­est to see that the ship yards in her state dont loose any business.

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  3. Dfens says:
    December 5, 2005 at 8:38 pm

    Hmm, who said, “face it, pro­cure­ment is where all the power is”? Oh yes, that was me (http://​www​.defensetech​.org/​a​r​c​h​i​v​e​s​/​0​0​1​9​2​2​_​c​o​m​m​e​n​t​s​.​h​tml). Being right about things that are so screwed up is such a bore.

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  4. sglover says:
    December 6, 2005 at 12:23 am

    As long as the cof­fers of Lockheed, General Dynamics, Northrop, Boeing, Raytheon, etc. are fat and get­ting fat­ter, the War on Terror’s going exactly as intended.

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  5. Dfens says:
    December 6, 2005 at 12:55 am

    So what are you, some kind of com­mu­nist? Lockmart, Boeing, NG, they don’t make the rules. Well, ok, they strongly influ­ence the rules, but they don’t make them. It’s the Executive branch of the US gov­ern­ment who does that.
    If these defense con­trac­tors are string­ing out devel­op­ment to max­i­mize profit, why not change the rules so they build a bet­ter prod­uct to max­i­mize profit? All the DoD would have to do is change the type of con­tract they issue from one that pays for devel­op­ment to one that only pays profit to the com­pany that pro­vides the best prod­uct. No act of Congress involved. Nothing for the Judicial branch to do. Just a sim­ple act by the DoD. A sim­ple change in pol­icy.
    If the DoD stopped pay­ing for devel­op­ment, they wouldn’t require hun­dreds of thou­sands of peo­ple to watch over these greedy con­trac­tors any more. Why watch over them when they are spend­ing their own money to develop the prod­ucts? When the prod­ucts come in, you have your fight­ing guys get famil­iar with it, try it out, if they like it, buy it. If not, tell them to stick it. Ah, those were the days… Those were the days when our mil­i­tary hard­ware was the cream. It was the best of the best for the best of the best.
    Or we could go on like we are now, spend­ing more, get­ting less, tak­ing longer. The prin­ci­ples of cap­i­tal­ism are going to work either way. Personally I’d rather have them work for me than against. I’m kind of old fash­ioned that way.

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  6. rutty says:
    December 6, 2005 at 12:17 pm

    I, too, was floored to learn that fixed-​​price con­tracts were not how things are done.

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  7. Dfens says:
    December 6, 2005 at 9:11 pm

    The whole “firm fixed” vs. “cost plus” con­tract argue­ment is really a thing of the past. Back in the late ‘70s through mid ‘80s the con­trac­tors were get­ting reim­bursed for their devel­op­ment costs. At that time it became pop­u­lar to push the devel­op­ment funds as far as pos­si­ble, but mostly the moti­va­tion was to get a good use­ful prod­uct from that fund­ing. There was no profit from those funds. Ever since the con­trac­tors started get­ting paid profit for devel­op­ment — that was the begin­ning of the mess we’re in now. Now the com­pa­nies try to drag out devel­op­ment as long as pos­si­ble because they make a profit off of screw­ing up. They come up with one inane prob­lem after another because it allows them to max­i­mize profit.
    Understand, devel­op­ment is the period where they were cre­at­ing draw­ings, build­ing pro­to­types, writ­ing soft­ware, doing test­ing (my apolo­gies if you already under­stand this, not every­one does). It used to be you only made profit on sell­ing an oper­at­ing prod­uct. Now that com­pa­nies make profit from devel­op­ment, there is both incen­tive to drag out that phase of the work, and incen­tive to NOT BUILD a prod­uct. It has turned my job into white col­lar wel­fare, and that’s not what I went to engi­neer­ing school for.

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  8. Dfens says:
    December 7, 2005 at 6:29 pm

    Why should your com­pany get paid for you to do this or any task? I’m sure what you did was to sup­port some prod­uct. Your com­pany should make a profit on a good prod­uct just like every other busi­ness in this coun­try should. What is so spe­cial about aero­space that we should get paid for our time and that our com­pany should make a profit on every minute we spend occu­py­ing a chair? We should build prod­ucts. If they are bet­ter than those built by our com­peti­tors, then the gov­ern­ment should buy them from us for a rea­son­able amount of money. If they aren’t any good, they should occupy space in a garbage dump and not put a brave soldier’s life in dan­ger.
    That’s not what hap­pens now. Now the more stu­pid the idea, and the harder it is to make work, or often the harder we make the process of get­ting it to work, the more money we get paid and the more profit the com­pany makes. If it ends up being a piece of junk, who cares? Cancel the pro­gram, or worse still put some kid’s life in dan­ger using the garbage. We’ll bid on the next one and make a profit screw­ing the tax­payer on that one too. Does any­one else besides me see a prob­lem with this?

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