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By: Rook

Rook — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 00:20:26 +0000

An article I read last year said it best. “The modern US soldier goes into combat carrying 120lbs of light weight equipment. The problem is that 120lbs of lightweight equipment still weighs 120lbs!“
The current interceptor system is flawed in the same way that the up-armored Humvee is. rather than fixing a design they simply add more armor and weight to an existing frame. Soldiers need to be able to move effectively and keep the momentum and “violence of action” going in a firefight or they risk becoming easy targets. Systems such as dragon skin have been proven more effective for personal armor and offer better protection to weight ratio. It’s time to realize this and drop the weight.
–Rook, US Army Combat Engineer

By: me

me — Thu, 27 Apr 2006 03:53:55 +0000

Ranger armor weighs 24 lbs with both plates. Te very first had one front plate so that’s probably where the 16 lb’s came from. There is lighter versions available now. the old heavy plates were better than interceoptor plates as far as taking a hit

By: Charles

Charles — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:14:24 +0000

What helps is that globalsecurity.org perpetuates the myth of 25 pds.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/interceptor.htm
What you see on globalsec is not what you get in real life.

By: Quinn

Quinn — Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:02:03 +0000

Body armour has pluses and minuses. The body armour today is more effective than the VietNam era equipment I used in the 70’s & 80’s. The K-pot offers better head protection and a SAP plate was unheard of then. The problem as I see it, isn’t as much about the effectiveness of body armour although it has room for vast improvement. It is about weight and bulk.
Yes the 9 pounds of armour along with the combat load was bulky, uncomfortable, and interfered with mobility; But not any more so than the armour I was issued in the Balkans in the 90’s.
For those whose duties are to operate vehicles the Army’s Tank and Automotive Command has done a terrible disservice. The vehicles are not designed to allow a driver wearing body armour to do his/her job.
I am 6’2″ tall, while wearing the vest with the humvee seat at its rearmost position I could not exit the vehicle quickly let along position myself in the drivers seat to operate the vehicle controls in the most efficent manner. As for what troops in armoured vehicles need to contend with, I can bearly imagine. Flack vests took up room in the M113s also.
As for the previous comment about placing Misters Chenny, Rumsfeld and Rowe and others in Iraq for evolution of body armour to get a jump start. Maybe a nice idea but the wrong people. Get the miltary and civilian leaders who sign off on equipment into a position to have to use it and interface with it as the Soldier or Marine does and we’ll see faster evolution of more effective armour.
Maybe the next generation of vehicle will accomodate the 6’6″ Soldier who is driving the hummer while wearing body armour.
As for arguments over the Soldiers load and mobility. It may never end.