Comments on: NSA Wiretap Tips: Lame

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By: Mark Turner

Mark Turner — Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:24:22 +0000

Anyone who quotes the New York Times is someone who has a disregard of the facts. Having a sensible discussion with someone who has a disregard of the facts is sense-less.
Exactly what is the acceptable ratio of false leads to successful leads when one successful lead can prevent an act like 911?

By: C-Low

C-Low — Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:42:39 +0000

I would agree with the fact that our intel abilities are weak and that their is alot of errors and false leads I would definatley agree that our human intelligence is a pale terd of what it was in a bygone era.
But this is the kicker we dont have the luxery of years, decades to wait while we built the human intel back up. We must today leverage the advantages we do have while we at the same time attempt to fast track the human intel.
Technology spying like it or not is one edge we got we should use it for all its worth. Their has been some big improvements in human intel repeal of alot of laws. It will take time to rebuild. And in the meantime thier will be mistakes and errors. Thats the price we pay for past paranoia and gutting of the Intel ability of the US with paranoid red tape bueacracy lawyers.
And no matter what party or pres you blame for the crippling of our intel ability dont forget the main thing that caused all the laws and the problems is the mentality of immediate thinking the worste of our intel agency. Just like this wire tap stuff, the same mentality that automaticly kicks evil evil abuse abuse (even thou none has been found yet) is the same mentality that crippled our Intel ability in the first place.
So next time, why didnt we see it comin, could have should have, what about the human intel, remember what crippled our intel agencies. Hyperventalization over pure suspect of possible abuse. That F-16 flying over my home could wipe out my whole neighborhood but I trust that pilot not to abuse his power.
I value my civil rights and my privacy but as long as the gov dont abuse the privledge and only listen for terrorism tap my phone all your want// abuse that power use it for whatever blackmail partisan politics on either side, then I will be with you guys pitch fork in hand in the full lynch mob mode. Until then give the guys the benifit of the doubt and some slack damm. They are trying the best they can and they want what we want.

By: Ben

Ben — Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:16:14 +0000

If 30 year old terrorists are trying to fly using the identities of 10 year olds or 80 year olds, the solution is to spend more money on training staff to look at ID, not to set up a No-Fly list.

By: J. Brenner

J. Brenner — Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:48:53 +0000

“Those technologies do have the potential for shifting the balance of power between the apparatus of the state and the freedom of the individual in ways that are both subtle and profound.“
Gore is absolutely correct. For instance, at one time a person could contact the leader of their Al-Queda cell, either by phone or on the internet, with virtually no chance that this important exercise of their civil liberties would be detected or prosecuted. First they came for the Al-Queda members, but I was not an Al-Queda member, so I said nothing…

By: TrustButVerify

TrustButVerify — Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:50:23 +0000

Not to disagree, but it was Congress– not the CIA– who ripped up our human intelligence networks. Check it out under the Frank Church Senate Committee.

By: C-Low

C-Low — Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:29:57 +0000

I love how everyone points to the fact that their is 10yr old and 80yr names on the No-Fly list who could never be terrorist as evidence of its failure. Common guys its called identity theft. People just pass off the fact that terrorism is by the sheer fact of being forced into the shadows tied somewhat to criminal elements. Noah do you really think its not possible for a terrorist to get a fake “stolen identification” and do you really think that name should not be on the No-Fly list until found as identy theft victim? Then still monitored everytime it pops up, like air marshall and tails on both ends.
And to our friends at the FBI yeah alot of dry leads but as the IRA to Britian made clear “you must win all the time we only have to win ONCE” that translates into turning over all the leads possible becuase it only takes ONE, so follow up do your job, stay alert, and treat everyone like the one.

By: Sarge

Sarge — Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:27:50 +0000

It’s not a question of if, but when this country turns into Terry Gilliam’s “Brazil”:
Sam Lowry: I assure you, Mrs. Buttle, the Ministry is very scrupulous about following up and eradicating any error. If you have any complaints which you’d like to make, I’d be more than happy to send you the appropriate forms.
Mrs. Buttle: What have you done with his body?