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By: James Parker

James Parker — Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:03:06 +0000

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By: David Axe

David Axe — Sat, 28 Jan 2006 07:29:12 +0000

Jeez, you guys … okay, for starters, there wasn’t just ONE insurgent taking on these Marines. There were many, in different positions. As for the accuracy of the aviators’ ordnance, who says they didn’t hit where aimed? In fact, they did, all of them, and on that November mission, two jets delivered at least four bombs and two entire loads of 20-millimeter accurately.
Cheers.

By: jtw

jtw — Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:19:36 +0000

GUess that 100 billion + dollars for guided weapons didnt pay off in the accuracy department.
I seen on the Military channel a show that told the story of some rangers or marines (or something) on top of a mountain in afghanistan, and there was a bunker of afghani bad guys on the top of the mountain.
3 planes dropped their entire ordnance and missed the bunker completely. The soldiers were 100 meters away from the bunker so the planes were trying not ot hit them and try and overshoot the bunker a little bit. They couldnt get the bunker in the end.
The soldiers had to charge the bunker to finally take it(cant remember if they actually did). Think some of them got hurt.
3cm accuracy for a guided weapon is what they say, I guess not.

By: Edward Liu

Edward Liu — Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:08:47 +0000

What kind of weirds me about this is the idea that 2 F/A-18’s dumped their entire payload, including 20mm, on a batch of insurgents, but still found it necessary to fly back to base for more bombs and fly back out.
This isn’t meant as a criticism of the Marine aviators at all, mind you. I realize that this sort of thing can happen, as it did during the repeated airstrikes in the battle at Roberts’ Ridge during Anaconda. But jeez! What were those insurgents made of? Concrete?

By: Nicholas weaver

Nicholas weaver — Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:48:29 +0000

AHHH. Me brain damaged…
200 is a much more reasonable number, but still worryingly high. How many squadrons are there?
If 4/target, thats only 50 incidents.

By: David Axe

David Axe — Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:59:47 +0000

Nicholas,
Actually, that’s 200 bombs, not 2,000, and most flights return to Al Asad without expending ordnance. Most flights are dedicated solely to recon.
Cheers.