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Air Force Plan: Hack Your Nervous System

by on February 13, 2006

This is the first of a two-part series on plasma and electromagnetic weapons by David Hambling, author of Weapons Grade: How Modern Warfare Gave Birth to Our High-Tech World.
The brain has always been a battlefield. New weapons might be able to hack directly into your nervous system.
Controlled Effects” (see image, right) is one of the Air Forces ambitious long-term challenges. It starts with better and more accurate bombs, but moves on to discuss devices that “make selected adversaries think or act according to our needs… By studying and modeling the human brain and nervous system, the ability to mentally influence or confuse personnel is also possible.“
LTChallenge-08-IMG2.JPGThe first stage is technology to remotely create physical sensations. They give the example of the Active Denial System “people zapper” which uses a high-frequency radiation similar to microwaves as a non-lethal means of crowd control.
Other weapons can affect the nervous system directly. The Pulsed Energy Projectile fires a short intense pulse of laser energy. This vaporizes the outer layer of the target, creating a rapidly-expanding expanding ball of plasma. At different power levels, those expanding plasmas could deliver a harmless warning, stun the target, or disable them — all with pinpoint laser precision from a mile away.
Early reports on the effects of PEPs mentioned temporary paralysis, then thought to be related to ultrasonic shockwaves. It later became apparent that the electromagnetic pulse caused by the expanding plasma was triggering nerve cells.
Details of this emerged in a heavily-censored document released to Ed Hammond of the Sunshine Project under the Freedom if Information Act. Called Sensory consequence of electromagnetic pulsed emitted by laser induced plasmas, it described research on activating the nerve cells responsible for sensing unpleasant stimuli: heat, damage, pressure, cold. By selectively stimulating a particular nociceptor, a finely tuned PEP might sensations of say, being burned, frozen or dipped in acid — all without doing the slightest actual harm.
The skin is the easiest target for such stimulation. But, in principle, any sensory nerves could be triggered. The Controlled Effects document suggests it may be possible to create synthetic imagesto confuse an individual’ s visual sense or, in a similar manner, confuse his senses of sound, taste, touch, or smell.
In other words, it may be possible to use electromagnetic means to create overwhelming ‘sound’ or ‘light’, or indeed ‘intolerable smell’ which would exist only in the brain of the person perceiving them.
There is another side as well. The sensory consequences document also notes that the nervous system which controls muscles could be influenced to cause what they call Taser-like motor effects. The stun guns ability to shock the muscles into malfunction is relatively crude; we might now be looking at are much more targeted effects.
Tomorrow: Moscow moves in. Remote-controlled heart attacks, anyone?
David Hambling

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pedestrian February 13, 2006 at 6:03 am

Sounds like conspiracy, or something ripped out of X-files. We just had another day of posting about weather control, and now we are having beams creating illusions. Give me a break. When did Defense Tech start going after X-file like stuff that might appear on Debka files, or some other type of B-class Gossip source.

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davidfulton3 May 20, 2012 at 3:12 am

IT IS BETTER TO HAVE PEOPLE ASSUME, THAT YOU ARE IGNORANT OF THE SUBJECT AT HAND, BUT THROUGH YOUR EXPRESSING IT IN WRITING, YOU HAVE REMOVED ALL DOUBT…The name of the NSA Paper, authored by NSA General,Michael Aquino is Mind War. Yes he is the same Michael Aquino, that was arrested at his Satanic Cult head quarters (The Temple of Set) in San Francisco,during the Presidio Day Care Scandal.Charges had included; Child ritual sacrifice / Child sex slavery / Torture & Raping of children as young as 3yrs old,etc.
Some of these technologies may be learned, by a word search ; John St Clair Akwei vs NSA / Charles August Schlund vs George W. Bush / Synthetic Telepathy Torture / Remote Neuro Monitoring / Magnus Olsson MINDTECH / David Fulton3.com (Check the pages that come up)

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TrustButVerify February 13, 2006 at 7:17 am

This sort of stuff is so speculative that I'm leery of making statements aobut it- it leaves me with a feeling of vague unease akin the moment in a dream just before you realize you forgot to wear your pants to the formal dinner.
Still- I confess that I'm uncertain where we will go with this sort of thing. I think it will hinge on how well ADS performs in Iraq, but even if that hurdle is cleared we're likely to hear screaming from the Tinhat, Treehugger & Sons whenever these weapons are discussed. (It is a given that we'll hear such complaints no matter WHAT we do, of course.)
The next mustard gas? That's an interesting one. Speaking for my own opinion, I dislike chemical weapons for a few reasons- first, their indiscriminate nature combines with their nasty effects to push collateral (civilian) casualties beyond what is acceptable; second, the tendency of persistient agents to despoil the landscape for decades after their use. Consider the case of a Belgian farmer burned by mustard gas absorbed by a tree he cut down, for insance.
In the case of microwave weapons, I see a possibility of the first but not of the second. I recall that peace activists were worried by the fact that precision attacks in Desert Storm had not produced the sort of large-scale destruction they "preferred" to see; perhaps these efforts will produce a similar backlash- "they're too clean, people might not be afraid to use them!"

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davidfulton3 May 20, 2012 at 3:17 am

In the first Gulf War,Directed Energy Weapons were used. The Iraqis surrendered in a state of utter confusion.One Iraqi General was witnessed walking in circles,& trying to surrender to a small drone.

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Wembley February 13, 2006 at 8:09 am

It may sound likes X-Files, but the ADS and PEP are real enough already, and the technology works.
If we can do crude pain stimulation now, what are the next-generation versions going to do?
"Set your phasers to 'Pack Of Enraged Pit Bulls With Steel Fangs'…"

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davidfulton3 May 20, 2012 at 3:24 am

Tangent Black Patented technology, & Deeper than Black technology,is on a nano,molecular, & sub atomic level, & is outside that,of which may be imagined by the uninitiated.
We get pseudo science,in lieu of science.True science is reserved, for those in a need to know

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Charles February 13, 2006 at 9:58 am

We could have the next mustard gas on our hands. Huzzay!

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Charles February 13, 2006 at 1:11 pm

Any Luddite could argue that bombs “guided” by “evil satellites is “X-files”.

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ddjango February 13, 2006 at 2:04 pm

Yes, the technology’s there. And yes, it will be used.
The control of this technology is the issue. The US used to have more or less one enemy at a time. Now the US government is heading toward having most of the world and around half of its own citizens as the enemy. What is to stop these people from using such weapons wherever and whenever they fell threatened?
Obvious, we can see an example of the terrible consequences of being hit by PEPs by reading katsesama’s comment. Poor fella.

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orwellian February 13, 2006 at 2:40 pm

Your right katsesma. Heck who cares if they can’t
make this thing do what they say. We need a government that will fire microwaves at protestors. Heck, freedom of speech and the right to gather in peaceful protest is a thing of the past. We can only be free if we have one party rule. No one else in this country or any other counts. Tomorrow belongs to us.
Rich people rule. One party, one religion one
nation. Empire. Yeah.. Anyone who disagrees
is a tinhat nutcase.

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jtw February 13, 2006 at 3:02 pm

This is nice and all but I don’t agree with the scientists ethics.
The general populace has been disarmed of arms. Why would they want to help the .gov develop new high tech weaponry, especially like this? I can see defensive sensory equipment, but any scientist who aids the .gov in new weaponry is someone I can’t respect.
These will potentially be used for enslavement over a people who have no means to defend themselves. It’s like giving China a mind control device so they can continue on their censorship and authoritarian power over their people. It might make you rich, but it’s isnt moral.
I have no beef with these weapons if I could legally own and build them myself.
We are fueling our corrupt governemnt with better weapons and tools to strip our rights. Sad.
Soon as these are developed, it wil be used to take away the rest of the guns we own and we will be helpless to do anything.

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jtw February 13, 2006 at 4:07 pm

Pretty soon we will have government controlled satllites that can target 1 million people at a time and beam down laser beams on protests and paralyze everyone into submission.
This is real nice. Thanks for upholding the 2nd amendment.
If I could put up anti satellite missile batteries or store rockets and missiles I might feel a little better about having laser zapping paralysis machines in control of .gov.
Worse enough you give Law Enforcement Stun Guns to use on anyone they please for mouthing off. It’s awesome that we have the first amendment. I’ve seen it happen all the time.

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Monday February 13, 2006 at 7:57 pm

This is an area of technology I have fantasized about for at least a decade.
The ability to use our knowledge of waveforms and frequency to alter how people live.
Files from the Cold War show there is definitely a opportunity to harm to people.
In my fantasy we would use this technology to heal and help our people of this planet.
One day in Spring of 2001, on CNN there was a brief report about PEP.
I was very disappointed../\/\/\ Why isn’t this being used in more positive way.
I am in the study/\field of engineering and I want to work with this technology, but not like this.
Please tell me there is somewhere out there, where they are looking at all the applications of this.

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robert hopt February 13, 2006 at 9:04 pm

“By selectively stimulating a particular nociceptor, a finely tuned PEP might sensations of say, being burned, frozen or dipped in acid — all without doing the slightest actual harm.”
I laughed at reading this sentence. How is this not harmful? Oh it may not cause permanent unrecoverable tissue damage. But it’s obviously harmful. For me the litmus test is: Can it be used to torture? This technology can torture without leaving evidence! And if you think it won’t be used to torture… how naive.

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AD February 13, 2006 at 10:19 pm

I never was a trekie or a huge Star Wars fan. So how about we tackle the immediate concern for us military folks and that is getting us out of the middle east. We dont need no stinking ray guns to impose non lethal harm on others. What we need a reputation of being the best country in the world that we lost some years ago.
Spend the money on the troops and lets stop policing the world.

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James February 13, 2006 at 11:12 pm

Ok,now think of the next generation of such weapons alongside the historical mindset of the weaponeers,the fine folk who gave us words like “megadeaths”, and the implications are off the hook…

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katsesama February 14, 2006 at 1:06 am

Color me curious? i was just wondering aloud,if the plasma/microwave beam can target certain nerves or nociceptors within the target body to such adegree,what type of physiological effects could we induce?
I know,its a rather ghoulish question,aside from what i have already read in the post,would it then
be possible to say,i don’t know,cause involuntary
contraction of the colin?
Stay with me here,i’m going somewhere with this.
Just think,making these fanatic hammerheads have
an unschedualed brown moment at a critical moment
in time may well spell victory over terrorism.
I’ll elaborate.
How easy modern land battle could be prosecuted
when your’e enemy is too busy “unloading”as it
were,to put up any proper resistance.And all one
would need to win over their hearts and minds
would be a timely air-drop and/or convoy of crates
filled with pepto,kayo pektate,and charmin by the
ream?
yes,i am totally serious.
No enemy power in their right mind would dare
mess with us out of fear that we’d make them MESS
their drawers?
Crazy? yes,impossible,no.
it just tantalizes the imagination doe’s it not?
we needn’t cause undue harm, just a little undue
embarassment.Our enemies should be glad,instead
of dropping j-dams down their chimneys,we can
cause em’ to drop their trousers for a little
unexpected bowel failure?
hey,it beats dying by a longshot.
and as always kiddies,remeber what uncle katsesama
says…PAIN RAY RULES.

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Larry February 14, 2006 at 9:59 am

To Katsesama, The “Brown Bomb” you describe was already developed in the late 60′s for riot control. They were unable at that time to get it to focus….it worked on everybody. The second D below Middle C on a piano sustained at 600 decibles or above causes the sphincter muscle to involuntarily relax. Be a great way to end a summer concert….”and now some music that will make you S***!”. The thoughts at the time were to use it in conjunction with “Banana Peel”, a spray that would render pavement 10 times slicker than ice.

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erewhon February 14, 2006 at 4:56 pm

So far it looks like TrustButVerify is the only other design guy out here. Defense contractor, TBV? Hi, me too.
Larry, you are in a soft focus world. 600 dB? HAHAHA. The “brown note” is a concept that’s chock full of what it purports to induce. And while I’m pretty sure you can’t reach 600dB in air at STP, if you could, it would kill everything for quite a distance around.
The stuff in the article is quite real. Actually, Hambling’s book is not a bad start for those of you that are somewhat curious about this sort of stuff but don’t know a good (reality based) book to start with. It’s a trifle skimpy in places, especially the last chapter or two, as it probably should be (someone has been talking to him about stuff they shouldn’t have, maybe, IMHO, in one or two places).
This PEP weapon is a derivative of an old system called PIKL. PIKL was the very first test of plasma bloom/inverse Brehmsstrahlung weaponry, and as Hambling states, some really odd and unexpected bio-effects were seen. It was at first thought just to be concussion, then a sort of mechanical oscillation at the interface (the ultrasonic bit), then it was discovered that the bloom itself radiates a mixed bag of EM which was doing the trick. Turns out you can change the beam parameters, modulation and so on and get some control over what comes out at the bloom, and didn’t THAT just ‘bloom’ (heh) into several projects.
Anyways, the paper he quotes is in fact pretty hard to get an intact copy of outside a SCIF, but oddly enough, there are a couple of derivative devices that use the same tricks and AREN’T classified, ain’t life grand. No one said security had to be consistent, just inconvenient.
Still, shaped waveform emitters and Brehmsstrahlung effect based devices are among the hot new things for this decade, lots of research to be done there. For example, if you really crank the mod rate up, you can trade bloom energy for some pretty strong RF right at the bloom-target interface. Possibly, you could use that to disable a missile in flight, not by burning a hole in it but by disrupting the electronics with a localized EMP.

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Noah Shachtman February 14, 2006 at 5:29 pm

To be fair to David, he referenced the PIKL (pulsed impulsive kill laser) project in his original draft of the story. I cut it out, to keep the article a manageable length.
Plus, there’s some PIKL material I’m trying to fit into a magazine story that I am working on right now. I didn’t want Hambling stepping on me! ;-)
nms

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erewhon February 14, 2006 at 5:43 pm

Noah:
Have you read Ralph Peters’ “War in 2020″ or “Leak in 1990″ as we were calling it? Yike! Now there’s a fine example of someone needing to go to Leavenworth. Not Ralph, but whoever violated their NDA for him.
Tom

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erewhon February 14, 2006 at 5:45 pm

To expand on that comment (too bad there’s no edit, I always want to change things at least once), I am referring to the part that bears on this article’s theme. If you’ve read it, you’ll know what I mean.

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Noah Shachtman February 14, 2006 at 5:51 pm

I haven’t, no. But now you’ve got me all curious!
nms

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erewhon February 14, 2006 at 6:07 pm

I assume you guys co-opted that graphic from one or more project presentations? It looks familiar but I’m too lazy to go looking for it.
Tom

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DDD February 15, 2006 at 12:39 pm

This is for AD. War isn’t fun or nice and I don’t like being away from my family any more than the next guy, but policing the world is not what we do. Protecting the lives of those loved ones we leave behind on safe US soil is what we are doing. I want any weapon that will do that quickly and decisively, without making more people mad at us. The US IS a powerful nation and well recoginzed as such that is why the cowards attack inocent civilians rather than full on attacks on the military.

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Patrick February 15, 2006 at 12:46 pm

I want one!

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Laura February 15, 2006 at 1:16 pm

Call me old-fashioned, but I don’t really see how any of this can help anyone. Just like nuclear weapons, it would only be a matter of time before our enemies got their hands on the same technology. Before we know it, our world is going to turn into 1984. Thought Police and all. Doesn’t that scare anyone?

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Matt Mitchell February 15, 2006 at 1:32 pm

This reminds me of a story I wrote a few years ago. Here if you’re interested.

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Bull February 15, 2006 at 3:22 pm

Hmm. sounds cool to me. wouldn’t it be cool to make your enemies poop themselves into dehydration and cramps and such? there is a large appeal to ‘die’ a martyr, but who wants to be the one who pooed himself in double digits?? this will doubtless make our ‘extremist’ opponents much less likely to mess with us, because doing so will not get them their seventy virgins, and they will have to live in shame as the first double digit pooper.

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erewhon February 15, 2006 at 3:49 pm

Laura, et al:
I’m not sure how it turns the world into “1984″ or whatever.
I hear this fear expressed a lot from other web-sites that tend to attract semi-professional protestors, weekend “revolutionaries”, embracers of fantasy mis-information, and the marginally mentally ill with paranoid delusions. To be truthful, there is also a cadre of well-meaning but non-technical people who are confused by what they read on the net, both factual and fantastic, and those few that are informed and STILL worried. That last bunch are by far the minority, but really the only ones with an informed dissenting opinion. Unfortunately, their voices are drowned out by the tin-foil hat group.
A lot of these topics are very technical and difficult to understand for those that are not fairly familiar with biology, physics, high energy optics or electrical engineering. It doesn’t help that you have a lot of web-literate people that have not a clue but go pick up a copy of “The Big Book of Technical Words” at the local book store and proceed to make websites that seem to the uninformed to be authoritative.
And of course, quite a few of the “big” paranoia sites only care about the bottom line on their advertising and will intentionally remove corrective posts in order to preserve the “OMG!!!” quality of their site. Such sites, and I hesitate to name them for legal reasons, but you’ve probably been to at least one or two, have admins that KNOW better, but use that knowledge to make the material more scary and ominous instead of informative.
Guys like me who actually WORK directly on this stuff, or work on parts of it, or are familiar with the team that is, are sort of hamstrung. I can to some extent post corrections or comments to steer the topic back to reality, to some extent. I can’t come right out and discuss in depth some projects, and some I can’t comment on at all.
But I think it would be inappropriate for me to start a website that, for example, plays against the ‘paranoia sites’ with accurate data instead of the sensational. I am bound by NDAs and/or an overwhelming innate queasiness to come right out and discuss stuff. You see, even when stuff goes public it doesn’t release me from NDA’s. I’ve also been told very pointedly just last year (ow ow ow) that even if I’m not on a project, even if it’s not worked on HERE, I’m not allowed to deduce how a system works and discuss it. And truthfully, just a whole lot of it isn’t appropriate to discuss, since that government you’re so afraid of (note how you can express that fear without reprisal?) is using this info to keep you safe.
So the people who actually have a clue are the very ones that have a lot of internal conflict about telling you the data you’re getting are bogus. I’m probably not alone in this, Mr Shachtman has obviously done the “I’m not sure just what I can tell you, but I think I can point you to this” dance before, since he knows the steps so well.
As a side note, it’s also a very difficult task to popularize this info and not have it come out either sensational, misleading, unintentionally ominous or uninformative. This site does a jam-up job of getting their data right AND making it readable. That’s not easy, because if I wrote it with equations and tech references, it would be as exciting to read as watching paint dry.
Laura, it’s hard to read a few lines and really know where anyone’s comment is coming from, unless you’ve seen enough of their comments over time to form some sort of mental model for them. So I’m going to shotgun a response based on a best guess.
In my opinion, the real question is “can this be abused.” Well, obviously in a broad sense, everything can be, and has been. This is a “human nature” issue and not a technical one. Since the discovery of the sharp rock, people have been using technology against other people. I don’t see this ever changing. I will say that we worry a lot about it as a nation, and that constant self-examination is probably a good thing. It is a more useful thing when people are educated in the sciences, though, and this is where the problems come in.
Rocks and sharp sticks are readily understood. When you start getting into laser plasma physics, Rayleigh-Taylor instabilities at the boundaries of plasma blooms, non-linear mixing of multiple beam spectra in a bloom and so on, the people that have any idea what you’re even TALKING about are damn few. Now add that to the other knowledge bases in the pot: understanding logistics of weapon systems deployment, general military tactics, group psychology of how a weapon system is perceived by an enemy, logistic support of that system, industrial engineering, ergonomics, field survivability, design for instinctive use of the system by a warfighter under pressure in the field and probably two dozen other very complex issues, you reach the point where it’s impossible that any one person has an in-depth picture of every aspect of a system, even on a design team.
Now, take this complex weapon system for which not even the wonks on the design, deployment, use strategy and maintenance teams understand every detail of every aspect of the thing, AND it’s still very much in research and development, and run it through the filter of the internet and the popular press.
What you have left is going to fall on very different ears. Did you ever read the poem by Saxe, “The Blind Men and the Elephant”? Every person that summarizes the data adds their own twist, then when it gets to the populace, everyone perceives it through the screen of their own life experiences and knowledge, or lack thereof. Since by far most people won’t have even a CLUE about the technical aspect of it, their imaginations run wild into the land of “what-if”, and you get this elephant reaction.
The system itself becomes a sort of Rorschach card, and every science illiterate person projects their inner fears onto it. What if they murder me in my sleep? What if they really know it was me under that mask with my pre-printed protest sign chanting my pre-written slogans in the name of individuality? What if those odd uncontrollable thoughts in my head are really some evil unknown agency that is beaming them into my head with mind control beams? What if the aliens from Planet Zyra object to it? What if some evil overlord from the NWO can really tell what I’m thinking about my wife, my best friend, the 12 year old girl next door?
Shortly after, the “how can I turn a buck off this” web sites start publishing versions that will probably be titled something like “Evil torture ray now in the hands of the Illuminati”, which really moves the merchandise.
Laura, one of the most succinct things I can say to you is, if you’re worried about evil satellites sending down death-beams from space or something, is that it’s cheaper just to shoot you by about 1,000,000X. Seriously. A lot of people get into these Byzantine fantasies about how the evil bad people will creep into their homes and laser them in their sleep or something. Just keep in mind the thought: Why would anyone do that, when it’s far cheaper just to shoot you? If the government was really out to get you, and totally above the law, why not just march in with flamethrowers? Napalm you? Crush you with tanks? Cut loose with Ma Deuce? Stick a soldering iron up your bum? It certainly doesn’t take complex, expensive cutting edge weapon systems to do that.

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IVWW February 15, 2006 at 5:41 pm

erewhon et al,
there are two reasons it’s better to use more expensive citizen control:
1. People are more willing to accept it. The world in 1984 was possible because people were willing to accept the authority. It was a system maintained by propaganda and dogma. If you challenge the system in the United States, they DO shoot you (Kent State anyone?, the weathermen, USA Communist Party, Martin Luther King, Jr, Malcolm X, etc.). They DO throw you in jail (Cindy Sheehan for chrissakes), they don’t squish you with tanks, but, again, that’d be more expensive.
2. It keeps the system stable – In the Soviet Union, people hated the oppressive system and largely welcomed its demise (out of the frying pan, eh?). A system that people thinks works and is benevolent is one they’re more unlikely to resist.
What possible reason could we have for invading Iraq? I mean, we invaded, didn’t we? We knew they didn’t have Weapons of Mass Destruction, we knew Saddam Hussein wasn’t a threat, or even if he was, North Korea was scarier, or China, or Iran, or whomever.
Because our populace is so ready and willing to accept that our soldiers are fighting for “our freedom” they’re also willing to accept that we’re invading other countries for legitimate reasons.
the question “can it be abused” stems from the larger question “should it be built”?
I don’t think it should, but maybe I’m crazy. After all, you’re the professional, so no one else’s opinion counts, right? I mean, if the masses are ignorant, they shouldn’t be allowed to participate, right? Who needs democratic decision making?
It might be wise to use the Precautionary principle here. You yourself admit that you’re a technical professional and therefore fall victim to the story of the six blind men phenomenon. What qualifications do you have to discuss the social and political implications of this kind of machine?
I don’t think this kind of device gives us any sort of critical edge while it will fall into the hands of other nations (ostensibly “the enemy,” but forces which, surprisingly more often than not, received arms and training from us). Add to that the incredibly high potential for abuse, and you have a recipe for disaster.
a heart-stopping ray? Let’s consider putting some people in apartments, or helping developing countries create a political atmosphere where terrorism isn’t encouraged.
Weapons and militarism are just an endless cycle of hate, destruction and violence. No one wins a war, no one “beats” terrorism. It’s trying to do so that causes more and more of it. Osama Bin Laden doesn’t hate us because we’re free, he hates us because the US military maintains thousands of bases off of US soil to secure oil resources for US citizens in other parts of the world.
Tazing thousands of brown people who hate us doesn’t make them hate us any less.
but who am I to say that, eh? Maybe what we need is more guns, more bombs, more death-rays, more heart-stoppers, more ability to kill and destroy. I mean, that’s what has made the world so safe today, right?

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erewhon February 15, 2006 at 10:02 pm

Cowicide:
There doesn’t appear to be much allowed here as far as HTML goes. But, tit for tat, as they say:
http://www.wwnorton.com/college/history/ralph/workbook/ralprs36.htm
The text of the Munich Agreement, 1938: Peace in Our Time by Neville Chamberlain. ;)

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erewhon February 15, 2006 at 10:11 pm

To be accurate, it’s Chamberlain’s defense of the agreement.
BTW, funny you should be using a computer, considering that the integrated circuit was invented by Kilby while working on miniaturizing military circuitry. Oh, and a surprising number of the concepts of the machine you’re using came from Whirlwind. The architecture? John Von Neumann’s, who came up with it while working on military applications, and the network protocol you’re communicating with derives from ARPANET, TCP/IP had its start as a military protocol. You really should read Hambling’s book, it’s a nice overview.
Especially while you’re being all innocent of connection to the “military industrial complex” there.

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Stretch February 16, 2006 at 9:13 am

ALl fine and dandy. Have we asked anyone they’ve tested these things on whether or not there have been any long term effects?
The only other thing I ask is that the person or persons who would emply this supposedly non lethal use of force be trained in the same manner that police are trained. That’s right, have someone use it on them first. That may make someone think twice before ever deploying it in a situation that doesn’t warrant it’s usage.
Don’t ask me how I know…
Stretch

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Pete February 16, 2006 at 5:32 pm

Yeah, the world is a wonderful safe place and everyone loves disneyland and its a “small, small, world”

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TRB February 16, 2006 at 6:47 pm

I think the point in developing weapons that go beyond the imagination of most men, is to avoid war. Most people cannot express their understanding of such weapons and this rightly persuades them not to be involved.
But then there are the characters that are too self absorbed to realize that they have no option.

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Cowicide February 18, 2006 at 7:33 am

Sorry, I think Eisenhower had it right. Call me un-American, but I agree with Eisenhower… till I die. Stop the corrupt madness before we destroy ourselves. This is not defense of freedom anymore. The sad thing is.. deep down… you know it too.

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Brian February 18, 2006 at 2:47 pm

Of course, there’s something to be said for reducing the buildup of weapons. Unfortunately, the United States can only act for the United States.
If tomorrow, the US stopped research on this device, then the Russians would continue to develop similar technologies, deterred not a whit.
If tomorrow, the US stopped all weapons research, then North Korea would still continue to pursue a stronger military.
If tomorrow, the US removed its overseas military presence and began reducing its arms strength to only what was required to defend our shores, then it wouldn’t change the activities of countries overseas one bit (well, actually, certain countries would be far more aggressive).
The problem is that the US cannot unilaterally disarm the world. This isn’t Superman 4, when he threw all the nuclear weapons into the sun. The US can only disarm itself. The only thing that will do is remove one player from the table. The rest will continue to war, as they always have.

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JD February 23, 2006 at 2:07 am

If we try to make such advanced and dangerous weapons as to prevent other parts of the world from trying to destroy us, then you are inviting the world to come and destroy us. There will be some company that buys the weapons, then sells them out to some other places in the world. The buyers will make the SAME technology, try to surpass ours, and then point them at us. Why? Because we would be a threat, and when they are the other threat, they can siege war on our asses so as to eliminate the other threat; so that THEY will be the ones who are “safe”. No, we don’t need such rediculous weapons. If we keep making then like this, we will all be battered and beaten to the point of fighting our future wars with sticks and stones.

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Patrick Sullivan February 23, 2006 at 10:20 pm

The Extraterrestrial Intervention into our world has spurred the development of some of these weapons.
On July 1, 1954 in Walesville, New York a jet fighter was shot out of the air by a flying disk. The pilot felt overwhelming heat and was ejected from his plane.
The plane crashed and killed 4 people, one of which was a scientist for General Electric. The scientist was working in the field of “Theoretical applications of the use of nuclear weapons. How to kill the most people with the use of nuclear weapons.
More recently, August of 2001, a flying disk shot 2 F-16 fighter pilots with an intense sound beam, temporarily disabling the pilots. The unknown flying craft then froze the fuel lines of the planes, sending both pilots into Eternity.
This was speedily censored, yet it gives an idea of the power available to these unknown “Visitors.”
Our nuclear war criminals are finished because of their attempts to immolate the mass of the human race; They know their finished, but their hoping that you all don’t figure it out.
http://politicsofet.com

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David February 24, 2006 at 1:22 am

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” – Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
To whom it may concern,
What can one do or say that will help others wake up to the reality of what is occuring nationwide and worldwide? Lets face facts. Our government is an organized criminal fascist enterprise run by religious capitalists[jesuITs] intent on retaining control over us and our children. Our government is in fact composed of luciferian lovers of money and is the scourge of our times. Our entire way of life is corrupt to its core because we allow ourselves to be ruled and deceived by luciferian lovers of money enacting monied laws to rule over us at our expense. Our history is filled with global genocide, monied lies, war, manufactured disease, raw greed, and merciless brainwashing, along with a slow erosion of our rights to exist as sovereign and free human beings. If this agenda is not luciferian I don’t know what is.
I want to be clear. Our rights are being compromised for economic reasons. Given this simple fact, would it not make sense to fix the economic system that is compromising our rights?
Here then is an overview of YOUtopia, designed to fix todays problems through simple, viable, cheap, peaceful economic reform.
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YOUtopia
MISSION of YOUtopia: To forward and support in-common yearnings for peace, freedom, love, justice, understanding, prosperity, health, opportunity, and growth for the good of all our relations through the discussion and dissemination of simple, viable, peaceful, common-sensical economic reform designed to benefit everybody worldwide no matter their beliefs or belief system.
DESCRIPTION of YOUtopia: YOUtopia in practical terms is in essence an economic system designed to empower the active manifestation of dreams built on individual and collective philosophies and beliefs. The inhabitants of YOUtopia, are YOU, ME, US and THEM. In other words, WE EACH define YOUtopia according to OUR terms, dreams, needs, wants, and desires, BOTH individually AND collectively as co-inhabitants of YOUtopia. YOUtopia is grounded in the human condition and is designed to improve the human condition for all peoples worldwide through sound, viable, peaceful economic reform that is designed to improve living conditions for all life forms. YOUtopia is a TRUE global economic system that is designed to fill need, want, and desire at a highly reduced cost for the good of all our relations.
VIRTUES of YOUtopia: YOUtopia is anti-war, anti-poverty, anti-crime, anti-disease, and anti-usury. YOUtopia is pro-freedom, pro-peace, pro-growth, and pro-prosperity. YOUtopia is not a religion, a political movement or a cult. YOUtopia embraces self-expression, diversity and freedom for all. YOUtopia is also designed to empower growth for all, all at a lesser cost for all.
PHILOSOPHY of YOUtopia: In a phrase, freedom from monetary limitations imposed on peoples worldwide through centralized world banking cartels imposing monied policies, rules, laws, and practices implemented and institutionalized at the expense of others. The philosophy of YOUtopia simply put is to work together for the good of the all instead of the few through basic economic reform.
ECONOMIC SYSTEM of YOUtopia: YOUtopia is structured around simple concepts and ideas aimed to enable and empower all belief systems eqally and equitably for the good of all. The way to accomplish this seemingly daunting task is to seperate and expand the current global monied economic models into a simple yet effective two-tiered system based on the application of usury for all in-common and all un-common goods and services. In other words, all IN-COMMON goods and services would be usury-free and All UN-COMMON goods and services would not be usury-free. In simpler terms, money would remain for both tiers, usury would not.
BENEFITS of YOUtopia: The benefits of such a simplfied usury-reformation economic system are profound. Less monied war, poverty, crime, disease coupled with more freedom, opportunity, prosperity, growth for the good of all worldwide.
Ask: do you want more stuff for you and yours? Do you want a bigger better house? Do you want a bigger better car/truck? Do you want more cash in your pocket? Do you want more free time to enjoy more stuff? Do you want more prosperity? Do you want more opportunity? Do you want more efficiency? Do you want less disease, less war, less poverty, less suffering, and less confusion? Do you want future generations to grow up with unlimited potential? Do you want everyone to enjoy more freedom, peace, love, understanding, respect, prosperity, and growth for the good of all our relations or do you only want a select few to enjoy these benefits at your expense? If you want more good things, choose usury reformation and the above mentioned benefits will become manifest.
In closing for now, each of us have a choice to make. Freedom FROM monied evil or slavery TO monied evil. I choose Freedom. How about you?
David Roblee

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Peter February 24, 2006 at 2:34 am

Well Reality is cruel. They want to enslave us.
Real war and real battlefield is that space between our ears. When you win there, you win everywhere.

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James February 24, 2006 at 7:44 am

To David Roblee,
YOUtopia sounds good man. It’s definitely a great idea. However, in reality it’ll be far more difficult to accomplish. If you want to discuss the idea further sometime, I’d certainly be interested. E-mail: freevision@inbox.com

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theilluminatedone February 24, 2006 at 11:54 am

What about the attack robots the size of a pin, or smart dust as it is also called? What about chemtrails and mycoplasma and dessicated red blood cells found wihtin many trails sprayed daily by tankers and ordinary aircraft? This goes on daily and is the biggest engineering project ever undertaken.
These new weapons are great for techie goons, but they bode ill for all of us when they will be used in the USA to quell dissent – when we hjave had enough of the lies and theft and pedophilia of our so-called leaders.
km

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kamo February 24, 2006 at 6:41 pm

With the increase in sophistication, the distance between the victim and the triggerman increases, so that perfect cowards can now torture to their heart's content without the inconvenience of hearing their victim's cries of pain. A coward's wet dream come true. And now, with tech-induced sensory stimulation, the entourage of the victim can have the victim packed off to a psychiatric hospital where he or she will be diagnosed as delusional, suffering from hallucinations, hearing voices, seeing things that aren't there… a perfect nut case.

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Sean October 13, 2011 at 6:10 pm

That is exactly what the government is doing with these weapons and most of the public is completely blind. It's all covered up by corrupt government agents and state secrets. It is one of the cruelest acts against humanity. It's nothing less than torture and murder. The worst thing is that this crime wave is spreading rapidly. These types of inhumane non-consensual experiments have been going on for decades. Even after MK Ultra, Cointelpro, Artichoke, Paper clip, and the rest of them have been exposed, people still don't believe.

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jaye February 24, 2006 at 7:46 pm

The Air Force needs to control the nervous systems of the male cadets at the USAF Academy to stop them from raping the female cadets. And with all this high tech BS the military is still losing people to low-tech IEDs in Iraq! Not to mention all the high-tech friendly fire incidents! Aim High, Duh!

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jaye February 24, 2006 at 8:38 pm

The way to win in war is a mix of high and low tech weapons and tactics, we learned that in Vietnam. The more complex the equipment and plans the more things go wrong. K. I. S. S. is the way to go. “War is hell” but winning a war takes a hell of a lot of thought, muscle and guts. God bless our troops and God bless America.

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jaye February 24, 2006 at 9:13 pm

The perfect combination of hi and low tech is the modern day UFO manmade and designed in the late 1800s by Nicola Tesla but updated with technology i.e. computers and lasers etc. etc. check this out
http://members.tripod.com/~lyne4lyne/ It’s too cool! Peace!

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TheGunny February 24, 2006 at 9:50 pm

Hi-Tech has it’s place….air supiority, area denial, etc, but the one thing history has taught us, or should have, is that you can never control all of the people all of the time. If you want to win any conflict you have to put boots on the ground..and give them what they need to succeed. American’s are great improvisors, but we are also very trusting. In our current conflicts, we control the air, but we do not control the emotions of the people. While this technology may be a useful tool, no one weapon is ever the ultimate means to success.
The Gunny, USMC (ret.)

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weinhaus February 24, 2006 at 11:16 pm

What’s next? Do you think that the Chemtrails have anything to do with these “weapons”?

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mallee February 25, 2006 at 1:08 am

To weinhaus .. in a word? yes (there are a lot of very good links here requires patience, an ability to sift and sort, and much thought. But ultimately I think its worthwhile) To weinhaus .. in a word? yes (lot of very good links here requires patience and much thought. But ultimately its worthwhile)

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mallee February 25, 2006 at 1:10 am

To weinhaus .. in a word? yes (lot of very good links here requires patience and much thought. But ultimately its worthwhile)

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Tracy February 25, 2006 at 5:58 am

Nothing new here. From Buck Rogers to Star Trek, we’ve all seen the “death ray” weapons. Reality is just catching up to fiction. And because of the mass-media exposure, we accept it. But we miss the moral lesson: it’s an act of evil to harm another – regardless of what new tekno toys we have.

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jaye February 25, 2006 at 10:07 am

We need to hack into people’s nervous systems because The OSI, ONI, DIA, NSA, CIA and The Feds are a bunch of Jackasses. They spy on Americans but
remember what they are, they are Fat, Stupid, But kissing, Ugly, Lazy, Government and Military workers who are underpaid, overworked and understaffed. They watched Walker, Ames, Hanson and Pollard and barely caught them! These people could not catch a cold and my taxes are paying their salaries, ouch! My trust is in God not in these fools! PS Where is Usama?

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wake up February 25, 2006 at 7:14 pm

carnicom isnt bs.
i’ve done the same research and it matches.

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erewhon February 25, 2006 at 7:16 pm

so…what research have you done? Read stuff on the net from other sites like his?
The red blood cell thing is just amazing.

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jaye February 25, 2006 at 11:02 pm

Grunt, Swabbie, Airedale, Jarhead, Coastie, Reservist or Guard. You are our Country’s best and I pray for you everyday. God bless you all!

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khawley February 26, 2006 at 8:37 pm

Creating a human “Bee Hive” with lasers, microwaves and electromagnetism!
Soon there will the worker-bee people (the majority) and the elite kings-queens who control the hive,not by pheremones but by invisible “rays”?

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dJenLP February 28, 2006 at 1:46 am

Does mmamma REALLY need make that littlle brown indiginous boy suffer so horriibly for having a much larger more bang-worthy and handsomer apparatus?
Will Mr. Whitie ever find his ChapStick?
I guess I can’t complain about getting ready to drown anymore than the next starving caged or skinned-alive PolarBear. Where they’re so few, yet too many up there somewhere dying. in the quickly melting Polaris Regions of this poor Planet. As we are and have and are planning to continue to rip asunder and then blow her into little tiny chunks of garbage rocks
You know, I can;t complain about having to struggle so hard yo keeps my pipes above the surface …trying not to drown
I really want to do better for myself but Why? Aren’t there enough people around me having the best at the cost of horrifying paines and miseries at thier worst to everyliving things that are not a white Skinncolored socalled-MAN?

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Me February 28, 2006 at 7:26 pm

Isn’t it nice how, in the end, the Nazis won?

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Jaye February 28, 2006 at 8:22 pm

The Nazis were evil and cruel but they did perfect the modern day Flying Disk AKA the Tesla Disk, Aerospace Medicine, ICBMs, Jet Fighters, Giant Cannons, Synthetic Oil and a whole lot of other black projects and programs, black even today!

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Brian February 28, 2006 at 8:40 pm

Okay, I admit it. You guys are on to us. But see, we NEED these weapons. They’re our only defense against…
http://www.seanbaby.com/superfriends/luthor.htm
Lex Luthor and his Legion of Doom!!!
How do you expect mere men of flesh and blood to stop Gorilla Grodd’s master plan to turn everyone on Earth into monkeys? Who’s gonna stand up to Black Manta? YOU? Do you have the guts? I didn’t think so. Are you gonna fight against the Toyman’s entire planet made of deadly toys?
There’s no Apache Chief to save the world now, God help us all. So it’s up to US to stop them.
The Legion of Doom is a more real and more sinister threat than any of your chemtrails and ufos and illuminati put together. Trust me, I’m with the government. I know these things. I’ve done the research.

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Larrysn2 February 28, 2006 at 9:38 pm

The Nazis aren’t going to win … the Terrorist are on the run … but not if the kill whitey anti-American Leftys’ get their way! … they wont
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=o60bqp

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Ben March 3, 2006 at 3:24 am

It’s good to see genius scientific minds who could potentially help to bring about huge advances in medical or otherwise humanitarian technology instead dedicating their lives to evil

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KD March 5, 2006 at 7:00 pm

This is no problem. We can’t even kill our people on death row (for 18-25 years) cause we’re afraid we might hurt them in the process. We would die happily before we’d do anything to us or our enemies.

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Reed March 11, 2006 at 1:50 am

hate to mention it but it was also the government that invented the stronger more potent form of the lysergic acis known on the street as LSD. they tested it on their own men to see how they behave during basic training during vietnam and attempted to use it as a weapon on enemy troops but were never able to craft the right mechanism to deliver the attack. they only want their power and you can bet if they can use them in war as “safe, harmless, humane” then they can use them on the SUV driving republican soccer moms and the idiot jock kids to do whatever the hell they want. and they will too. just wait and see. and by the way you do realize that if everyone in the country revolted they would send the army to put us at rest so they could keep their throne… know this.

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Benjamin J. Brown March 12, 2006 at 8:25 pm

I am of the opinion that our Armed Forces, our Intelligence community and the Military Industrial complex should be dedicated toward the ideal of protecting American lives. However, these obscene weapons are far removed from from the notion that they contribute to a healthy and prosperous People. As a matter of fact, many factions contained within the above noted entities represent “The Enemy Within”. It appears that certain scientists are rewarded for developing weapons and technology that can psychologically and physically debilitate a subject invisably irregardless whether said subject is perceived to be an “enemy of the state” or not. The situation in Grants Pass, Oregon seems to be a contest of how much you can isolate and torture a target invisably and not get caught. Even so, certain National Security provisions and Public Laws can and do indemify subcontractors from liability and thus the disturbing impunity with which they operate is effectively protected irregardless of the potential for negative Geo-political spin that this individualized Spiritual Coup de etat can generate. As Kamo stated herein, these weapons are a cowards wet dream.

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Jaye March 14, 2006 at 2:04 pm

The best combination of Hi and Low tech is the modern day UFO manmade and designed in the late 1800s by Nicola Tesla but updated with technology i.e. computers and lasers etc. etc. check this out
http://members.tripod.com/~lyne4lyne/ It’s too cool! The Nazis were evil and cruel but they did perfect the modern day Flying Disk AKA the Tesla Disk, Aerospace Medicine, ICBMs, Jet Fighters, Giant Cannons, Synthetic Oil and a whole lot of other black projects and programs, black even today! Peace. Jaye

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Jerri Lynne Dietz April 1, 2006 at 9:48 pm

I believe the US Navy is targeting people in the Garland, Texas area for their mind control experiments. I believe that they are also using homeless people in the Dallas Texas area. They are also using Green Oaks Psychiatric Hospital in Dallas Texas. They are using people without their consent and causing much damage. I believe I am a victim. They use electricity and chemical gases on you at Green Oaks, and it causes your skin to burn. I knew this had to be some kind of experiment vs. treatment. Please help if you can!
Jerri Dietz

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Kim April 3, 2006 at 2:11 pm

There are about 500 U.S. citizens complaining of being victims of this type of technology. They state they are subjected to specific abnormal pain in certain parts of their bodies and that they experience abnormal mood swings. These Americans have led otherwise productive lives and are mostly middle class. They say their lives were stopped after being afflicted by this technology.
Doctors can not diagnose the problem and quickly rule it out as paranoid schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. This is even when there has been no previous sign of a mental disorder. Through research and communicating with each other it seems experiments by employees of CIA, DoD and/or government contactors can not be ruled out. During the early mind control and radiation experiments the CIA and DoD made sure anyone that stated they were a victim of an experiment was termed crazy. Now, those victims do not seem so crazy. Why would they change their modus operandi now? There is no evidence yet to prove it is the CIA or DoD but who knows, maybe they will paint themselves in a corner like the radiation and mind control experiments.

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Gregory Ryder May 6, 2006 at 2:48 am

PEPs: What is meant by “outer layer of the target”? Is this the outer layer of a person ie. their skin? Or is it the outer layer of a vehicle or building? This is an interesting site for thew technology news and the freewheeling comments.

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Deniz May 6, 2006 at 2:34 pm

It would be very sensible for the government to develop technologies to recover people who have had their minds hacked. Have they not yet done this?

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Steve May 13, 2006 at 7:29 pm

The majority of comments made on this post vindicates my view that the entire United States of America should be declared one big psychiatric ward. There’s something very, very wrong with you lot!

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kathy smith June 1, 2006 at 3:18 pm

Ive had microwave weapons and voice to skull weapons used on me and my 14 yr old son by a local Tigard police officer & his helpers.The voice to skull forces you to say anddo things against a person’s judgement sometimes, and is used to harass,terorize, discredit us.The voice to skull are also used in my court proceedings on the judge, me, and others to make it harder for me to get my son returned to me.The cop’s lover is after my mom’s money& lied to DHS abt me.

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Ray July 25, 2006 at 1:09 pm

How would this weapon, if employed on crowds, keep from popping someones eye-balls or killing a small adult?

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Benjamin J. Brown July 26, 2006 at 2:02 pm

Here is a Pi code off a primer I developed from the “Rogue Valley”
cadf
WEATHER
EARLGAA
ARAEDRR
Od
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Non-redundant letters: CDFPWTHRLGAEIOU
Now get your scrabble boards and start with “GP” (Grants Pass) and see how many phrases, together with acronyms, you can develop. The results are provocative and revealing as to the nature of clandestine Grants Pass where the motto is “It’s The Climate!”
Note: “AL” = 112 (A=1, B=2 and so forth). S+U+B+L+I+M+I+N+A+L= 112

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Linda A. August 6, 2006 at 11:22 pm

A device has been shocking me in the genital area, feet and eyes. I’ve done research and a microwave device/ or weapon in the area is targeting me with some sophisticated infra red devices. How is someone to know where to target just certain areas of the body? I live near LAX and near many aerospace companies.

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biggerbrain August 8, 2006 at 11:33 pm

On reading comments posted by Americans, on must always remember that Yankees are, and have always been, as dumb as they come. ;)

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peabrain August 9, 2006 at 12:02 am

boom! bap! zing! zap!….oops…too late folks. My brain has already been hacked, zapped and zinged. Booming and bapping comes from too much exposure to media. Because of the hacking my mind has become less than airtight and when the wind blows I find myself at a loss. Y’all better get used to mind hacking because the war on terror has been extended to include the average American citizen. So when you see a recruitment poster of Uncle Sam pointing at you saying “I want you”….just think to yourself these comforting thoughts: You all have more to offer than any other generation. Next thing we will hear about are the soul hackers. With mind hacking who needs the 20th century brain washing techniques. Sheeps walking around in human bodies?

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owen August 9, 2006 at 2:50 am

does anyone ever wonder WHY there is such a devotion to controlling other people? or to what end?

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Patricia Morreale August 9, 2006 at 7:44 am

I am one that they have been experimenting on. I also found another person in my area that is having the same experiences that I am having.

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This is Terrible August 9, 2006 at 9:16 am

Of all the bright minds we have and money, this is what we spend it on? Why not find a cure for AIDS… Wait they may have done that already…. Well then, why don’t they feed the poor instead of toys for war

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Larry August 9, 2006 at 9:27 am

I just read the August 9 comments. Don’t you realize that unlike Americans, there are millions of people in the world brainwashed since birth to kill infidels? Wouldn’t a more humane way to protect ourself make sense. Do you hear the stated objectives of the Islamofascists? What are you thinking?

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Stever August 9, 2006 at 9:57 am

This is so offensive to me. Setting aside the horrible mass torture aspect of it, the assumption is that crowds need to be dispersed. What if this was used on Martin Luther King and his crowds who were marching for their basic civil rights? Or the women suffragettes who marched for their right to vote? Or the union members who marched to give us health benefits, workplace safety and an end to child labor? The fact is, if you look throughout human history, most of the time it was the people marching who were in the right, and those physically attacking them were in the wrong. Look at what’s happening in Mexico City right now. The declared loser of the presidential election is claiming that there was massive electoral fraud and that he actually won. So his supporters are staging a sit-in of over one million people, demanding a vote recount. Ask yourself–should it be resolved through discussion, diplomacy, compromise and the other nuances of democracy? Or should the “winner” just roll out his own “active denial systems” and fry his opponents like a common thug? Sounds like the tactic of a dictator to me. This is so WRONG to give a weapon like this to those already in power. This only further solidifies the power of the evil men who are already in power.

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mark August 9, 2006 at 10:46 am

If the U.S gov. can decieve the american people about Kenndy, 911, mans walk on the moon, ufos,the so called drug war, ect, the list goes on and on, you can bet your sweet ass, they are using this new tech on there own people?????? been depressed lately??

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Larry August 9, 2006 at 11:24 am

Am I the only one commenting that see this different. Of course any weapons can be used wrongly by the wrong people. Forget about the specific weapon, what do you conspiracy theorists propose to do about terrorists? Do you think 911 was one man’s vendetta? Open your history books and study the last 1400 years. This is WWIII. Again, I ask what would you do?

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Chuck August 9, 2006 at 11:48 am

Imagine what’ll happen when this technology goes mainstream. Hang on to your wallets.

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Evan August 9, 2006 at 12:06 pm

Am I the only one that thinks this is a good thing? I mean, granted, it could be used as torture, but so could a lot of good things that came out of the twentieth century. When it first came out, many people believed that the mircrowave could seriously damage your body because it was a form of technology that they had never seen before. In the new weapons case, isn’t it better to stun a person or cause him some discomfort than to kill that person?
Think about it: What if a group of American soldiers was cornered in a building by a group of Iraqi terrorists? The example of using this weapon to create a blinding light only in the mind of the beholder could allow the soldiers to simply fire the weapon around every corner, and easily run right out. There’s always going to be a downside and an upside to any invention. Be an optimist!

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floris August 9, 2006 at 12:59 pm

didnt eaven read it so fare but this is somme stupide sutff there trying to throw at us ,aal these tech stff exicted loong before . and its aal abot “monarchy and heirachi” crouwd control when do we get popultation control , nowe thats an existing word .. pff

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Kara August 9, 2006 at 1:00 pm

This is too easy to use. It will be overused and abused. The politians setting policy on its use are not trustworthy.

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DaveO August 9, 2006 at 1:13 pm

This technology will for for us, and can unfortunately, against us. Military history has proven that those without the toys simply lose. We need those toys, if we are to persevere in a future battle with forces equipped with hi tech weapons as well. No one likes war, but mankind seems to quickly forget how freedom is won in the first place.

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George L. August 9, 2006 at 1:31 pm

To develop such weapons is tempting rogue elements to play at mind control. The problem in the US is the disconnect between the people’s common sense and the spoiled children of elite estate who scheme a Frankenstein in private. The revolving door of post-military Franken-servants will try to use such weapons—anything for more power, money and INDULGENCE! The solution? International law. It doesn’t have to negate democracy. Instead, it can defuse stupid wars before they happen. The US spends more on defense than all other nations combined. It’s a fatal contradiction, not inspired democracy.

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Samantha August 9, 2006 at 2:33 pm

If this is a necessary security against the threat of invasion on “American” soil, why don’t we just take it to the ultimate level of implanting devices into infants at birth for total control of thoughts & actions? I’m sure the feds could come up with some well meaning missionaries & billions of donated American dollars for worldwide implanting.

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aj August 9, 2006 at 3:27 pm

if they are releasing reports on this type of technology it can be guaranteed that they already have it in full working order and that the so called experimental stage has been over for a long time.
people can say this is all X files, but what do you think the black budget was created for?

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peabrain August 9, 2006 at 5:49 pm

baaaaaaaaaa!!!!!..get in line…baaaaa!!!

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Paul August 9, 2006 at 8:54 pm

Obviously theres nothing we can do to stop progress, no matter how evil. And I see no way to be secure from this stuff. So what do you do? I’ve thught of it for several years. Leave the system. Sounds funny but take the Amish as your example.
Little,two room cottage with R60 insulation. Couple acres of land. Freeze your food for the winter.
Sure I still plan to have my wide screen television and all the rest of the goodies, but really, you don’t need more than a hundred bucks a week to live this way and that means you’re out of the city and posing no threat to them, therefore the least likely to be targeted. A minumum wage job is like $240 a week. More than enough.
There’s even icing on the cake. At that wage, you’re doing just fine, and paying almost no taxes, so you can know you’re not financing them, a true, freedom loving, American. A passive anarchist.
It’s a lifestyle choice. Yes, you can still afford a three week vacation to Europe, but it’s a bike/hiking trip, no hotels.
There’s another choice too but I’m not interested.
Peace

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Charles Slobogian August 10, 2006 at 7:52 am

During the Mid-Tribulation Period, the Satanic European Dictator & the Jewish Dictator will use a Technically Advanded Military Aircraft to send Fire/or Lazor Beam to the Earth with pin point accuracy–(Revelation 13:13-14). This Technology will be to prove his Military Might–”who is able to make war with him”–(Revelation 13:4).
After gaining the confidence of the Gentles & Jews, his Image will be placed in the Jewish Temple for the Jewish People to Worship, that he may Blaspheme God–(Revelation 13:5-6).
Because of the Famine that will be taking place at this time, the Satanic European Dictator will cause all those to receive a mark on their right hand or forehead, in order to ration the food. No one will be able to Buy or Sell without this Mark–(Revelation 13:16-17). Like Hitler, he will attempt to Eliminate the Jews, so that Jesus Christ will not be able to return to a Believing Segment of Jews to set up His Millennial/or 1000 Year Reign–(Revelation 20:4-7).

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dp August 13, 2006 at 3:21 pm

It would be wrong to employ weoponry devices to control honest men or employ weaponry against beings who have a high causality level and who have the power to self-regulate which includes most of man. The bullying of others for ones own financial benefit is wrong. more time and money needs to be spent on the humanity of conflict resolution which is a lot less invasive and doesn’t allow a criminal entity to take power of such scientific marvels to enslave man. man is basically good and men living under higher toned governments with a sophisticated human technology protect its citizens, this technology is used to raise the causality, rationality, knowledge, responsibility and control of its citizens. It also teaches one how to apply ethics to ones life lessening the need for punitiveness measures. People of this type of society would be more inclined to use a more rational decision making paradigm that included more than there own survival – it would also include the survival of the environment,groups,mankind,environment, etc..
The whole premise that a small group of individuals can run the lives of billions is not sound. It is the individuals that cause a society to function and not the group. any society in which a few attempt to apply bad control to the masses under the idea that the masses need to be controlled is in essence a foretelling that that society is about to go by the boards. the group can never make an individual causative with bullying, imprisonment and weaponry – it just won’t happen – it is impossible. I have the idea that this has been the ruin of numerous other civilizations and planets. It is a strategy that is doomed to failure. The only societies which do not suppress the consituents and primarily democratic in origin where the individual been educated in a human technology which doens’t neccessarily cause them to do everything someone says, but rather is used to increase the individuals ability to contribute to society. Anyone who would put the citizens of their planet in concentration camps so they can have a temporary feeling of safety at night is committing a high crime against his fellow beings and it only serves to illustrates his ignorance of the nature of a sentient being and reveals his high level of insecurity. it is only by truly knowing his fellow being and by being able to teach his fellows a humanitarian technology that increases the rationality, beingness and causality of his fellows that can there truly be a safer environment.
You see longterm security doesn’t arrive due to the sacrifice the basic rights of a planets citizens. Lets take an individual who resorted to crime because they did not know how to read. So teach him how to read. This subject of Psychology prevalent on Earth today teaches that IQ is fixed. If you had a co-worker that when you asked him to do something and every response you got from them was that that would be impossible, you would probably go to someone else if you were a person who actually wanted to get something done. The idea that one can’t be raised up to be more causitive, have more intelligence, have more knowledge that would raise their responsibility and control (good control) over their own life is just a barrier This barrier then prevalent in all thought would lead one to believe that the citizens of earth could not be raised to higher levels of rationality and so seemingly justifying the harmful act of mass herding of innocents, mind control and other harmful negative control by those who don’t know any better and have not cognited on the true way to bring its citizens to a higher more productive state of consciousness.

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Larry August 14, 2006 at 2:42 pm

To DP, posted 8-13-06. You have posted a comprehensive and eloquent discussion on the problems of controlling our country’s masses. I agree with much of what you say. I do believe you miss the purpose of a humane weapon. It is not to control our own people.
There are radicals trained from childhood to “kill infidels”. It would be wonderful to educate them to their folly. But when they are coming at you in a hi-jacked plane to commit suicide and incur mass death on our population, it is too late to offer them a good book that might change the views toward us.
Larry

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Larry August 14, 2006 at 2:44 pm

To DP, posted 8-13-06. You have posted a comprehensive and eloquent discussion on the problems of controlling our country’s masses. I agree with much of what you say. I do believe you miss the purpose of a humane weapon. It is not to control our own people.
There are radicals trained from childhood to “kill infidels”. It would be wonderful to educate them to their folly. But when they are coming at you in a hi-jacked plane to commit suicide and incur mass death on our population, it is too late to offer them a good book that might change the views toward us.
Larry

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nukem August 14, 2006 at 8:22 pm

What a great weapon. :)
Lets use it to make the A-Rabs eat shit and die !!

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peabrain August 15, 2006 at 3:13 pm

Mind and nervous system hacking is great if it is used on the “other side” or bad guys. But if it gets used on YOU then it becomes collateral damage or collateral losses or maybe even an experiment gone wrong? Sounds like a win-win situation for Somebody, eh?

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Benjamin J. Brown September 24, 2006 at 5:54 pm

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nukem October 1, 2006 at 10:14 am

What a great weapon. :)
Lets use it to make the A-Rabs eat shit and die !!

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nukem December 6, 2006 at 5:04 am

What a great weapon. :)
Lets use it to make the A-Rabs eat shit and die !!

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Etisoppa December 10, 2006 at 8:52 pm

Benjamin J Brown (and ALL others) for much more on this technology check
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nukem January 3, 2007 at 2:19 am

What a great weapon. :)
Lets use it to make the A-Rabs eat shit and die !!

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Freddy Fender January 11, 2007 at 11:25 pm

WTF! You guys and gals never heard of tuskeegee OK and the siphilus experiment on vets? A friend of mine served in navy in the ’50s
and the gov brainiacs sent 50,000 sailors out to watch A bombs go. The 3000 that survived are called Atomic Vets and get special comps and meds.
The Depleted Uranium issue was on the cover of Time Magazine a couple years ago. BTW most of this microwave and beam tech stuff is easily defeated with light weight metal shields and body insulation. I understand the body piercing guys will be looking at their jewelry red hot and laying on the ground if hit with the microwave stuff.
Aluminum foil hats anyone?
P.S. Don’t be too hard on the scientist as the talented ones get nabbed addicted to substances.
Withdrawal results in death. Work or Die!!

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Karma January 14, 2007 at 6:28 pm

Does anyone else think that ‘nukem’s’ comments are pathetic and pointless. I presume that ‘nukem’ is a dumb A-merican.
Nice attitude mate.

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Teutonic Warrior December 11, 2007 at 8:45 pm

All of this stuff is the making of nightmares for all of humanity, and it is why WE must take to the streets, and round up every scientist,all professors within all scientific academia, all military brass, the entire body of government, all lawyers, all religious leaders, every C.E.O. of every company doing business with the government, all designers and engineers of every weapon company, all media moguls, all millionaires, billionaires,bankers, etc. There needs to be mass hangings and excecutions of these individuals. Get rid of the status quo elites.
The people have to seize control of our destiny
and rid itself of anyone who has the ability to create weapons that would be used against us.
If we end up having to go back to bows and arrows, so be it.
Stop being a bunch of lazy, selfish , complacent ‘A’ holes, and take back our right to life and the pursuit of happiness…kill all those sonzabitches listed above…
Does anyone know why Ted Kaczynski took the actions he did? All of the above is why!
Those who have all the power and wealth today, could care less about the average citizen. The only use we are to them, is to work in their grist mills making them ever more wealthy. Thats it…
IT IS TIME TO REVOLT!
Einstien said; “I do not know what weapons will be used in WWW 3, but I can tell you what be used in WWW 4; sticks and stones!”

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DH April 11, 2008 at 3:49 pm

I believe this article was written in 2006.This is now 2008.The developement of these weapons have ALL READY been perfected. Torture has all ready been perfected.I am a non volunteer receiver of this weapons torture directed by perps
with underdeveloped minds.The companies that actually develop these obviously not well thought out designs are in my opinion just as guilty as the felons directing these energy weapons at innocent women,men,boys and girls.Fear has caused the cowards to want to develop these weapons and to torture and torment the unsuspecting human being because when one is fearful there is no sense of pride.Self confidence is non existant.Peaceful knowledge eludes them.Common sense and common decency failed them.Now in the search of self control the powers that be had to try and get into the minds of those who all ready have co-existing with the universe down pat.These weapons are just a nother tool in Lucifers tool box.No weapon formed against me shall prosper.Walk by faith not by sight.Praise God Anyway.

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DH April 11, 2008 at 4:43 pm

I believe this article was written in 2006.This is now 2008.The developement of these weapons have ALL READY been perfected. Torture has all ready been perfected.I am a non volunteer receiver of this weapons torture directed by perps
with underdeveloped minds.The companies that actually develop these obviously not well thought out designs are in my opinion just as guilty as the felons directing these energy weapons at innocent women,men,boys and girls.Fear has caused the cowards to want to develop these weapons and to torture and torment the unsuspecting human being because when one is fearful there is no sense of pride.Self confidence is non existant.Peaceful knowledge eludes them.Common sense and common decency failed them.Now in the search of self control the powers that be had to try and get into the minds of those who all ready have co-existing with the universe down pat.These weapons are just a nother tool in Lucifers tool box.No weapon formed against me shall prosper.Walk by faith not by sight.Praise God Anyway.

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tamam May 5, 2008 at 5:31 am

Yes, the technology’s there. And yes, it will be used.
The control of this technology is the issue. The US used to have more or less one enemy at a time. Now the US government is heading toward having most of the world and around half of its own citizens as the enemy. What is to stop these people from using such weapons wherever and whenever they fell threatened?
Obvious, we can see an example of the terrible consequences of being hit by PEPs by reading katsesama’s comment. Poor fella.

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Digital Frames May 10, 2008 at 8:06 am

Can’t believe that

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Anonymous May 16, 2008 at 12:58 am
mingxingroad May 21, 2008 at 10:15 am

Pretty soon we will have government controlled satllites that can target 1 million people at a time and beam down laser beams on protests and paralyze everyone into submission.

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Moving services June 2, 2008 at 5:46 am

Yes, the technology’s there. And yes, it will be used.

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amazon June 3, 2008 at 11:10 pm

One 2000
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???? June 13, 2008 at 3:49 am

about weather control, and now we are having beams creating illusions. Give me a break. When did Defense Tech start going after X-file like stuff that might appear on Debka files, or some other type of B-class Gossip source

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kral oyun June 13, 2008 at 7:12 am

thankss

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fddff June 13, 2008 at 9:04 am

Belgian farmer burned by mustard gas absorbed by a tree he cut down, for insance.
In the case of microwave weapons, I see a possibility of the first but not of the second. I recall that peace activists were worried by the fact that precision attacks in Desert Storm had not produced the sort of large-scale destruction they “preferred” to see; perhaps these efforts will produce a similar backlash- “they’re too clean, people might not be afraid to use them!”

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iphone June 16, 2008 at 2:20 am

Nice article,thanks for sharing.

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?? July 18, 2008 at 2:29 am

ng ripped out of X-files. We just had another day of posting about weather control, and now we are having beams creating illusions. Give me a break. When did Defense Tech start going after X-file like stuff that might appear on Debka files, or some other type of B-class Gossip source.

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China Tour July 30, 2008 at 11:24 am

We could have the next mustard gas on our hands. Huzzay!

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Nguyen May 12, 2009 at 1:12 am

There is torture going on in Austin, TX by the police department without leaving any evidence. It has been going on for 8 years and everyone involved is called crazy . Read about it http://www.notscarednews.com and help end it.

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Mary December 16, 2010 at 5:48 pm

Thank you for the article. I am one of the Americans tortured by this airborne directed energy weapon system. It has no color, makes no noise and leaves no blood. I am cramped, hammered, stabbed and there is not one branch of the U.S. government that will intervene. This has been going on with me since 2003. This weapon is the most evil developmen since the nuclear bomb. It can torture a baby in the womb. It can kill. I know because the strength of the weapon has caused my entire leg to cramp. If they can cramp an entire leg, they can induce a fatal heart attack on an unborn baby.

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Brenden Osuchowski April 12, 2014 at 12:51 pm

Certainly much like the NSA employes on me, and I'm sure many other innocent, non-military citizens… The U.S. secret government is far more powerful than almost can be believed – capable (NSA) of containing a person from the inside and literally remote controlling a body if they so choose, know everything the person is knowing, and everything the person has ever known, and can bring anything a person has known into their awareness at any time at their will. I know. They got me – seeing what I see, and being in 2-way mental communication at all times for 11 months now, following a lesser degree of control going back several years. The NSA treatment is severe, like slavery in how it is employed in me, but they do not seem to mean to kill. And they say their mission is “open-ended,” and so despite great trouble from them I am able to write this and share it. The NSA commands a power and cohesiveness in enormity of understanding that so far outperforms any everyday person that it is going to take some getting use to when it becomes more public – their mission of connecting to people via their pineal gland and the power for them it entails – big change in the world folks. I maintain an open-to-the-public account on google+ under my name, Brenden Osuchowski, in order to share GOOD, truthful information to the public at large.

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