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Home » Bomb Squad » The Enemy is Me

The Enemy is Me

Last sum­mer, a U.S. Colonel in Baghdad told me that I was America’s enemy, or very close to it. For months, I had been cov­er­ing the U.S. military’s efforts to deal with the threat of IEDs, impro­vised explo­sive devices. And my writ­ing, he told me, was going too far — espe­cially this January 2005 Wired News story, in which I described some of the Pentagon’s more exotic attempts to counter these bombs.
truck_bomb_search.jpgNone of the mate­r­ial in the story — the stuff about microwave blasters or radio fre­quency jam­mers — was clas­si­fied, he admit­ted. Most of it had been taken from open source mate­ri­als. And many of the sys­tems were years and years from being fielded. But by bundling it all together, I was doing a “world class job of doing the enemy’s research for him, for free.” So watch your step, he said, as I went back to my ride-​​alongs with the Baghdad Bomb Squad — the American sol­diers defus­ing IEDs in the area.
Today, I hear that the President and the Pentagon’s higher-​​ups are trot­ting out the same argu­ment. “News cov­er­age of this topic has pro­vided a rich source of infor­ma­tion for the enemy, and we inad­ver­tently con­tribute to our ene­mies’ col­lec­tion efforts through our responses to media inter­est,” states a draft Defense Department memo, obtained by Inside Defense. “Individual pieces of infor­ma­tion, though pos­si­bly insignif­i­cant taken alone, when aggre­gated pro­vide robust infor­ma­tion about our capa­bil­i­ties and weak­nesses.“
In other words, Al Qaeda hasn’t dis­cov­ered how to Google, yet. Don’t help ‘em out.
This was taken to ridicu­lous extremes yes­ter­day by President Bush, who said:

Earlier this year, a news­pa­per pub­lished details of a new anti-​​IED tech­nol­ogy that was being devel­oped. Within five days of the pub­li­ca­tion — using details from that arti­cle — the enemy had posted instruc­tions for defeat­ing this new tech­nol­ogy on the Internet. We can­not let the enemy know how we’re work­ing to defeat him.

Folks, that doesn’t pass the laugh test. This tech­nol­ogy, Ionatron’s Joint IED Neutralizer, hasn’t even been shipped to the field — and may never get there. So insur­gents are post­ing instruc­tions on how to beat a device that they’ve never seen? Based on a few, vague para­graphs in the L.A. Times? Yeah, right.
After years of rel­a­tively small invest­ments, the U.S. is spend­ing sev­eral bil­lion dol­lars of our pub­lic money to try to stop road­side bombs. 40 American sol­diers are dying every month, because of these IEDs. The pub­lic has a right to know how that money is being spent, and how those sol­diers are being pro­tected. Period. And this attempt to demo­nize the media for hand­made bombs is just a way to keep folks from ask­ing why more wasn’t done sooner to deal with the IED threat.
Does that mean there shouldn’t be any secrets in the anti-​​IED world? Of course not. Operational specifics about key counter-​​bomb tech­nolo­gies and tac­tics should be tightly held; oth­er­wise, sol­diers can get killed. That’s why I kept such details out of my Baghdad Bomb Squad story. That’s why David Axe has done the same on his many Iraq trips.
But there’s a huge dif­fer­ence between dis­clos­ing key details, and not allow­ing any infor­ma­tion out what­so­ever about the Iraq war’s most impor­tant fight. Now, who’s the one cross­ing the line?

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  1. Noah Shachtman says:
    March 15, 2006 at 8:52 am

    I for­got to turn on com­ments for this story, so reader EA sent this to me directly…
    First, I admire your com­mit­ment and professionalism–and your courage. Traveling to Iraq and rid­ing along with the bomb squads is not some­thing I think I would have the courage to do. Of course, over thirty years ago dur­ing my active ser­vice days, I’d prob­a­bly have jumped at the chance. I was invul­ner­a­ble then.
    I have read exten­sively on mil­i­tary his­tory and tech­nol­ogy since I was twelve years old, but ten years in the Navy taught me the dif­fer­ence between what I read in open sources and real­ity. Sometimes, for instance, Jane’s Fighting Ships would get it ridicu­lously wrong. In other instances, Jane’s reported facts which I was for­bid­den to dis­cuss because of the clas­si­fied nature of the infor­ma­tion. So I have learned to assume that I will likely never get accu­rate or com­plete infor­ma­tion from open sources.
    This is a good thing. Despite my fas­ci­na­tion with mil­i­tary his­tory, tac­tics and technology–I read your web site after all–I am con­cerned that pub­lished infor­ma­tion will place our troops in dan­ger. I would gladly con­fine my read­ing to sci­ence fic­tion if I knew that this would insure our ene­mies were held in com­plete igno­rance of my coun­tries mil­i­tary capa­bil­i­ties.
    Unfortunately, it doesn’t work that way. In a demo­c­ra­tic soci­ety, the peo­ple have a right to know some­thing about the pro­grams they are asked to finance. The peo­ple must also retain over­sight of mil­i­tary pro­grams, lest they go wildly astray and waste lives as well as money. We are also jus­ti­fi­ably proud of our men and women in uni­form, and want to read about them and about the tools we pro­vide to them to do their jobs. The recruit­ing poten­tial of such things as port vis­its and air shows is also enor­mous.
    So, we try to find a bal­ance between the public’s right to know and the absolutely essen­tial needs of oper­a­tional secu­rity and the secrecy of weapons sys­tems per­for­mance. I think I know you well enough from your posts to believe that you would never know­ingly dis­close clas­si­fied infor­ma­tion, or even unclas­si­fied infor­ma­tion that might jeop­ar­dize lives. But don’t be too hard on that U.S. Colonel in Baghdad. As an American who cares about the lives of our troops, as I know you do as well, I expect–in fact demand–that he err on the side of cau­tion. He prob­a­bly knows bet­ter than you or I where the line should be drawn.
    Keep up the good work, Noah.

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  2. SecreTX says:
    March 15, 2006 at 11:26 am

    “Earlier this year, a news­pa­per pub­lished details of a new anti-​​IED tech­nol­ogy that was being devel­oped. Within five days of the pub­li­ca­tion — using details from that arti­cle — the enemy had posted instruc­tions for defeat­ing this new tech­nol­ogy on the Internet.“
    This is a com­pletely stan­dard anti-​​leak moral­ity tale of a sort that has been heard many times before. The for­mat is as pre­dictable as many of the urban leg­ends that cir­cu­late in e-​​mail.
    Like many ULs, the con­tent is at first glance believ­able, even if some­what depen­dent on post hoc rea­son­ing. It’s only if and after you look at the details that their bogus­ness appears. (And, to be fair, in a few cases there remains some pos­si­bil­ity of a real causal con­nec­tion between pub­lish­ing infor­ma­tion and a harm­ful con­se­quence.)
    Happy Sunshine Week, by the way.

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  3. Bob says:
    March 15, 2006 at 11:33 am

    So, if you know that the infor­ma­tion that you pub­lished might result in the death of American sol­diers, are you jus­ti­fied in pub­lish­ing it by the public’s “right to know”?
    What if you were sure that if the like­li­hood of that infor­ma­tion being used by the enemy were quite high? What if you knew that the death of American sol­diers was a cer­tainty? I am just try­ing to gauge just how impor­tant is the public’s “right to know” in this instance.

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  4. Noah Shachtman says:
    March 15, 2006 at 11:39 am

    Bob:
    Fair ques­tion. If I was “sure that if the like­li­hood of that infor­ma­tion being used by the enemy [was] quite high,” I wouldn’t run with it. If I “knew that the death of American sol­diers was a cer­tainty,” I wouldn’t run with it, for sure.
    However, I don’t think my report­ing on counter-​​IED techs, or the LA Times’, gets any­where near that line.
    nms

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  5. Dave says:
    March 15, 2006 at 2:02 pm

    “So, if you know that the infor­ma­tion that you pub­lished might result in the death of American sol­diers, are you jus­ti­fied in pub­lish­ing it by the public’s “right to know”?“
    This is the com­mon false mis­in­for­ma­tion that is being per­pet­u­ated by peo­ple like President Bush. Keeping infor­ma­tion from the pub­lic costs more lives than keep­ing gov­ern­ment open and account­able.
    A story about anti-​​IED tech­nol­ogy — espe­cially when the infor­ma­tion was NOT from a leak, but rather from open infor­ma­tion sources — is in no way more dan­ger­ous to American sol­diers than is a total­i­tar­ian gov­ern­ment hell-​​bent on secrecy not for national secu­rity, but to cover their own asses.

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  6. Byron Skinner says:
    March 15, 2006 at 2:49 pm

    Good Morning Noah,
    In regard to pub­lish­ing infor­ma­tion that might do harm to U.S. war efforts or put U.S. Military per­sonal in dan­ger, I have’nt seen it yet here Noah.
    In par­tic­u­lar IED’s, it appears from infor­ma­tion in the main­stream media, The Los Angeles Times for exam­ple is way ahead of what I see here, Defense Tech is being rather selec­tive and con­ser­v­a­tive in what is posted.
    As Commented before the only peo­ple who find this infor­ma­tion new a dis­trub­ing are President Bush, Sec. of Defence Rumsfeld and the sorry a** Generals and Admirals who are run­ning this war from their bu**s in Washington and McDill.
    A god read for those of you who still think this cast of clowns can run a war is the just released book “Cobra II”. The con­flict beween Gereral’s Frank and Wallace is to say the least is inter­est­ing.
    ALLONS,
    Byron Skinner

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  7. Mike T. says:
    March 15, 2006 at 2:51 pm

    Well, this men­tal­ity def­i­nitely demon­strates why the US is no longer a com­pet­ing force in the world of tech­nol­ogy (save a few cor­po­rate play­ers); The idea now is that we should lock-​​up all tech­nol­ogy that could be used as a weapon. With this men­tal­ity we would not have the inter­net of today or even the per­sonal com­put­ers of today.
    As a Technologist I have wit­nessed the degra­da­tion of tech­nol­ogy in our coun­try and am sad­dened to see that the free-​​thinking and free-​​mindsets are van­ish­ing.
    If we are to remain free, then we must be free.
    The idea that free­dom is not free applies here; We must be will­ing to put aside fears of the boo­gie man to ensure that there is a free US tomor­row for our chil­drens sake.

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  8. Allen Thomson says:
    March 15, 2006 at 2:55 pm

    It would be very inter­est­ing to locate the jihadist Web sites and see what coun­ter­mea­sure they actu­ally came up with; I sus­pect it might have been, “Shoot the golf cart-​​like thing.” If any­body here can Google in Arabic, it might be worth a bit of time to try to track it down.
    I note that what Bush said is iso­mor­phic to the bin Laden satel­lite phone story. The for­mat is robust and depend­able.
    The zap­per tech­nol­ogy, BTW, is described at http://​www​.ion​a​tron​.net

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  9. Noah Shachtman says:
    March 15, 2006 at 3:56 pm

    Reader TH: “Per: *The Enemy is Me* — Why do you hate free­dom?“
    Reader SL: “Of course you’re the enemy. We’re all the enemy. Only the “good guys” aren’t the enemy. And even they can become the enemy if they dis­agree for one sec­ond with the Politburo (see: every cab­i­net mem­ber from W Term 1).“
    Reader TP: “After read­ing the first arti­cle below on “the
    Enemy is Me”, I can­not believe the author is
    seri­ous. Historians who spe­cial­ize in mil­i­tary
    will tell you and those in com­mand of even
    small mil­i­tary forces will tell you that
    infor­ma­tion about the enemy is vital to win­ning.
    History is full of sto­ries about smaller forces
    defeat­ing larger forces because of infor­ma­tion obtained to defeat the enemy.
    The pub­lic does not have a right to know when
    mil­i­tary secu­rity is vital to sol­diers and
    sailors lives. The news media is very des­per­ate
    to print neg­a­tive things which will get a pub­lic
    reac­tion at the cost of prob­lems to oth­ers.
    We won WWII because the reporters cov­er­ing the
    war were respon­si­ble. Did the pub­lic have a right
    to know that Eisenhower was prepar­ing for the
    inva­sion of Normandy or the inva­sion of Iwo Jima?
    I find it inter­est­ing lis­ten­ing to the CNN and
    hear­ing about all the prob­lems in Iraq. Granted
    there are prob­lems, but one never hears about the
    schools and hos­pi­tals being built and other
    recon­struc­tion. . I only hear those sto­ries from
    the many return­ing ser­vice­men who com­pleted their tour of duty in Iraq.
    I hap­pen to agree with Bush on the secu­rity
    issue. I find it dis­turb­ing that reporters find
    it nec­es­sary to call thing laugh­able and attempt
    to degrade a per­son. They usu­ally have an
    inher­ent bias and have a cause to push on other
    peo­ple. What hap­pened to hon­est unbi­ased
    report­ing? I am tried of neg­a­tiv­ity in the news
    just to pre­serve reporters jobs and make money.”

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  10. Joseph says:
    March 15, 2006 at 5:15 pm

    Lets not fool our­selves, were not fight­ing a bunch of pri­ma­tive tribes­men, these guys already under­stand basic sci­ence. You didn’t give them any­thing to work with.
    As for new cov­er­age I have no prob­lem find­ing so pos­i­tive and so called negi­t­ive every­day. In fact I seek both sides out so I can’t get a bet­ter idea.

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  11. Jaye says:
    March 15, 2006 at 7:45 pm

    High tech IEDs from low tech une­d­u­cated Iraqi good old boys, what’s wrong with this pic­ture?? Kind of like the test pilot aer­o­batic fly­ing of the ter­ror­ists with a year of pilot train­ing on 9–11. I smell the bad breath of the cow­ard Mossad, CIA or British SAS!
    Peace. Jaye

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  12. Dave says:
    March 15, 2006 at 8:34 pm

    I feel that pooh poo­ing President Bush’s com­ments about giv­ing the enemy infor­ma­tion is wrong. This is seri­ous busi­ness, peo­ple are dying.
    Lets not help the enemy to kill us.

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  13. John Gilmore says:
    March 15, 2006 at 10:04 pm

    The rea­son the “enemy” is blow­ing up “our boys” is because our boys invaded their coun­try with­out provo­ca­tion, and in vio­la­tion of inter­na­tional law. America is in the wrong here. Most peo­ple don’t have the guts to say so.
    We can hardly com­plain about the kill ratio — we’re killing a dozen to a hun­dred of them for every one of “our boys” they get. But here’s Bush and a kur­nel whin­ing about the First Amendment. (We already knew those two weren’t fight­ing to pro­tect democ­racy and the con­sti­tu­tion.)
    If effec­tive IEDs con­vince “our boys” to stay the hell out of the Middle East, that’s a good thing.
    Much bet­ter than the world that would result if the US Army fig­ured out how to go back to push­ing but­tons to mur­der any real or imag­ined “enemy” with­out risk­ing their own lives.
    Bravo, Noah. Tell us more.
    PS: Building schools and hos­pi­tals? Don’t make me laugh. We blew up the per­fectly good ones that were already there — along with the peo­ple in ‘em .

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  14. Guran Walker says:
    March 16, 2006 at 8:31 am

    I think all those folks with “boys’ in the field should take down the names of ‘imbed­ded’ paper war­roirs who post dan­ger­ous mate­r­ial and send same to their “boys’. That way the troops can know ALL about the cam­era jockey rid­ing along with them. Can all share the joke.

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  15. Jaye says:
    March 16, 2006 at 8:03 pm

    Noah; you are F.O.S. these new seis­mic, pres­sure sen­si­tive and acoustic IEDs are state of the art and beyond any thing seen before. That’s why we need new tech­nol­ogy to find and destroy them you D.A. civilian!

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  16. Charles says:
    March 17, 2006 at 3:05 am

    On The enemy is me: So if you are told to shut up then, shut up and be happy.

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  17. Charles says:
    March 17, 2006 at 9:30 am

    Odd, I don’t recall post­ing the above. If it was six hours ago, I must’ve been asleep, or there’s another Charles on the loose.

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  18. BK says:
    March 17, 2006 at 1:46 pm

    TG,
    Law of Logical Argument:
    Anything is pos­si­ble if you don’t know what you are talk­ing about.

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  19. Noah Shachtman says:
    March 17, 2006 at 2:00 pm

    TG:
    You said, “The straw that breaks the camel’s back does not have to be that all the infor­ma­tion is in the same place, arti­cle, or con­ver­sa­tion at once…its the bits and pieces of infor­ma­tion that can be pulled together to form the ‘big pic­ture’ that gets a lot of peo­ple killed.“
    I hear that. But what’s the solu­tion, then? Stop talk­ing about any mil­i­tary op or tech, at any time, because some shred of it might con­ceiv­ably get tied together by an Al Qaeda snoop some day?
    Ive got a dif­fer­ent approach. Its based on some guide­lines laid out dur­ing my EOD embed. But I think they’re more or less uni­ver­sally applic­a­ble.
    Doctrine — “sol­diers uses plas­tic explo­sive charges to det­o­nate IEDs” is fine. Details of TTPs — “sol­dier place the charges pre­cise of this par­tic­u­lar part of the bomb, at such-​​and-​​such angle” — is not. That’s while I’ll talk about radio fre­quency jam­mers being employed, for exam­ple, but I won’t give out their ranges.
    Makes sense? Agree? Disagree?
    nms

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  20. ben says:
    March 17, 2006 at 3:05 pm

    you’ve got to be kid­ding me. america’s enemy? these are impro­vised explo­sive devices … they can’t stand up and fight us so they deploy this shit, you cov­er­ing this doesn’t mean shit to that.
    wtf
    par­don my french.

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  21. Allen Thomson says:
    March 17, 2006 at 4:21 pm

    This is what I get for not pay­ing atten­tion. It turns out that Ionatron, the com­pany that built the IED zap­per that Bush was appar­ently talk­ing about, has been the sub­ject of much past atten­tion by defensetech​.org and oth­ers. (CIA, shady money, shady cor­po­rate con­nec­tions, etc. Should make a great movie.)
    I guess my ques­tion about Ionatron’s implicit appear­ance in Bush’s speech is now more or less, cui bono? Who got to his speech­writ­ers and for what pur­pose?
    Note that as of this writ­ing late in the after­noon of 17 March 2006, Ionatron’s stock (IOTN) has not suf­fered much from the rel­e­va­tion that the enemy has devel­oped coun­ter­mea­sures to the zap­per.
    http://​finance​.yahoo​.com/​q​/​h​p​?​s​=​I​OTN

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  22. Jaye says:
    March 18, 2006 at 1:32 pm

    We are still los­ing good GIs to these IEDs. High tech IEDs from low tech une­d­u­cated Iraqi good old boys, what’s wrong with this pic­ture?? Kind of like the test pilot acro­batic fly­ing of the ter­ror­ists with a year of pilot train­ing on 9–11. I smell the bad breath of the cow­ard Mossad, CIA or British SAS and maybe even Russian Spetnez it’s to com­pli­cated for any­one else and each of these groups would also profit from the IEDs dam­age!
    Peace. Jaye

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  23. Allen Thomson says:
    March 18, 2006 at 1:50 pm

    > cui bono?
    I think I have a hypoth­e­sis, or at least a con­spir­acy the­ory, for how the implicit bit about the Ionatron IED zap­per got into Bush’s speech last Monday. As we recall, the line is that five days after a story about the device appeared in the LAT on 12 Feb, the enemy had posted coun­ter­mea­sures to it on the Internet.
    Well, it also turns out that in a hear­ing on 14 Feb, Senator Clinton used the LAT arti­cle as a hook for tak­ing the Army to task for drag­ging their heels on pro­tect­ing the troops against IEDs. Seconded in the same hear­ing by Senator Kennedy.
    And then on 15 Feb, also cit­ing the LAT arti­cle, Senator Boxer wrote a let­ter to the Secretary of the Army express­ing the same con­cern.
    So, if peo­ple(*) in the White House saw Senators Clinton, Kennedy and Boxer using the LAT story to raise the pos­si­b­lity that the Administration is being neg­li­gent in pro­tect­ing our troops, what would they do? Might a bit of jiu-​​jitsu turn­ing the tables on the sen­a­tors by show­ing how the evil lib­eral MSM are endan­ger­ing our troops by giv­ing secrets to the enemy come to mind?
    Clinton/​Kennedy: http://​tinyurl​.com/​p​a​e43
    Boxer: http://​boxer​.sen​ate​.gov/​n​e​w​s​/​r​e​c​o​r​d​.​c​f​m​?​i​d​=​2​5​1​604
    (*) Many of whom might have the ini­tials K.R.

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  24. Andrew says:
    March 20, 2006 at 2:44 pm

    » Noah; you are F.O.S. these new seis­mic, pres­sure sen­si­tive and acoustic IEDs are state of the art and beyond any thing seen before. That’s why we need new tech­nol­ogy to find and destroy them you D.A. civil­ian!
    I am vastly amused. If some­one is test­ing advanced tech­nol­ogy det­o­na­tors against US troops, some­one is liv­ing dan­ger­ously and invit­ing dis­creet if fero­cious retal­i­a­tion. I don’t sup­pose an elec­tronic lab blow­ing up in Pakistan or Eastern Europe would nec­es­sar­ily make the news …
    It also wouldn’t be any­thing new. As I recall, both the United States and Russia sold advanced mil­i­tary tech­nolo­gies to both Iran and Iraq dur­ing the Iran-​​Iraq War, using their bat­tle­field as a test bed.
    What goes around, comes around.
    Oh, and as for “advanced,” I seem to recall open-​​source intel regard­ing Russia using acoustic and seis­mic sen­sors back in the 1970s … and any decent Radio Shack con­tains the parts one would need, even if you have to take apart con­sumer elec­tron­ics now and again.

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  25. Jaye says:
    March 20, 2006 at 8:31 pm

    Duh, “What goes around, comes around”. Ivan helped the VC, We helped the Afghans, now Ivan helps the Iraqis! High tech IEDs from low tech une­d­u­cated Iraqi good old boys, what’s wrong with this pic­ture?? Kind of like the test pilot acro­batic fly­ing of the ter­ror­ists with a year of pilot train­ing on 9–11. I smell the bad breath of the cow­ard Mossad, CIA or British SAS and maybe even Russian Spetnez it’s to com­pli­cated for any­one else and each of these groups would also profit from the IEDs dam­age! “Follow the Money“
    Peace. Jaye

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  26. jerry says:
    March 28, 2006 at 4:21 pm

    Developing block­ing tech­nol­ogy based on vague ref­er­ences is very viable to an engi­neer. We just need a vague notion from our cus­tomers which is all most have to develop new prod­ucts for them.

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  27. jerry says:
    May 12, 2006 at 2:28 pm

    just sim­ple shut your mouth and dont write about what we are doing or may do.….

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  28. Rocks says:
    November 6, 2006 at 3:33 am

    EA is correct.

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  29. Don says:
    January 2, 2007 at 4:19 pm

    It would seem all media & news cov­er­age tends to down play the will of the troops & teams comit­ted to action . I would think there is great thought given to any release , media excluded . As far as any usable defense against IED , I am sure the one con­sid­ered will never reach the field , since the enemy was well informed . You are as good as Hanoi Jane .

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  30. Robert Sutterfield says:
    May 14, 2007 at 10:18 pm

    Words are very pow­er­ful in war. Particularly to the enemy that least under­stands them. Google and the Dept. of Defense both are on the same page in that they do not mince words.

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  31. SOLDIERBOB says:
    November 6, 2007 at 3:50 pm

    I wish you could ride with me for the rest of my deploy­ment.. And then you can judge if you thought you should have writ­ten the arti­cle. And as far as the American Public need­ing to know where the money is spent… WTF? Do we as sol­diers not count as the American pub­lic. I’m pretty sure that if that kind of money isn’t being spent on new tech­nol­ogy for IED defeat, we will be the first to know. It’s not like us as sol­diers are going to divide up the money.. I haven’t met a rich sol­dier yet. Thanks PAL. Why don’t you and Sean Penn come on back. We’d love to have ya.
    Live (no thanks to you) from Iraq.

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  32. gw gold says:
    August 11, 2008 at 11:46 pm

    My neg­a­tive, as my bosss brother was very sad. He said vent­ing to find out the game we play games together, together fight mon­ster, how to kill on how to kill. Later, we played the GuildWars game, my brother helped me apply a num­ber, and she also bought some GW gold to me. Choose the name, I think a long time, in order to no longer immerse in the lovelorn, so I need to find indi­vid­u­als to love me, want to per­ma­nently, I hope that it is no longer the past fire­works fleet­ing. Finally, I choose love me 9 long time as my name. Brother saw and laughed; he said he hoped I will be happy. He let me go to play, beware of being cheated, do not give other peo­ple my phone and QQ.

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  33. rappelz rupees says:
    August 12, 2008 at 12:02 am

    Three years ago, after friends intro­duced, I played the Rappelz game. At that time, I dazed and con­fused, I like to go my own way, I have a lot of rap­pelz rupees, but I became the most evil vil­lains in the game. Until I encoun­tered her, I found the mean­ing of survival.

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  34. ro zeny says:
    August 12, 2008 at 12:06 am

    The friend took me to the game, but she own was leav­ing the game. A per­son to game is bor­ing, every day, I only know to upgrade and earn ro zeny. I can not sad dot this mess of feel­ings and mov­ing. Once, the two boys for me quar­reled utterly, until I leaved and tool sad. Later, I found a boy to mar­ried, I think per­haps all this to change, and I pray to become a real­ity, a few days after he dis­ap­peared. A per­son was play­ing a mar­riage num­ber, what would it have taken place.

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  35. Jimmy says:
    December 24, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    so…
    If the Los Angeles Times pub­lished an arti­cle about how Pillsbury was com­ing out with a great new prod­uct, and listed the ingre­di­ents of that prod­uct, how would you expect Pillsbury to react? You give away a com­pete­tive advan­tage to every bak­ing com­pany on the planet.
    Sure, Hostess could eas­ily do the research to fig­ure out what the prod­uct is made of, but they would have to do the research them­selves. Nobody is giv­ing it to them, and def­i­nitely not before it hits the shelves. You might find a law­suit attached in the mail…
    The thing that wor­ries me, is that you don’t see that this kind of ‘report­ing’ could poten­tially cost your fel­low Americans’ lives. This is where ethics comes into play. If the Los Angeles Times is too blind to see that, then maybe they should be labelled by the President as a threat to national secu­rity.
    It is pretty sim­ple to me.

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