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Home » Ammo and Munitions » “A Mushroom Cloud over Las Vegas…”

“A Mushroom Cloud over Las Vegas…”

…Is what will almost, but appar­ently not quite, be seen on June 2. According to the Defense Threat Reduction Agency , the dust cloud from Divine Strake, a mas­sive con­ven­tional explo­sion sched­uled to take place at the Nevada Test Site this sum­mer, “may reach an alti­tude of 10,000 feet (3,048 meters) [but] is not expected to be vis­i­ble off the Nevada Test Site.”

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The open-​​air test will ignite 700 tons of ammo­nium nitrate/​fuel oil, good for 593 tons of high-​​explosives equiv­a­lent, accord­ing to the Washington Post . The Associated Press describes the test as the largest-​​ever open-​​air chem­i­cal explo­sion at the Nevada site by a fac­tor of forty. Due to the size of the blast and its sen­si­tive loca­tion at the home of the United States’ erst­while nuclear test pro­gram DTRA has taken the trou­ble to warn the Russians ahead of time of the upcom­ing test. 

The tests pur­pose, accord­ing to Defense News, is “to exam­ine ground shock effects on deeply buried tun­nel struc­tures.” The WaPo describes the test as “a con­ven­tional alter­na­tive” to the polit­i­cally ornery Robust Nuclear Earth Penetrator, or “nuclear bunker-​​buster.”

Heres my $64,000 ques­tion, though: is this (700-​​ton!) explo­sive really a con­ven­tional “alter­na­tive,” or is it a stand-​​in being used to sim­u­late a low-​​yield nuke? 

By the way a “strake is “a straight­edge used for lev­el­ing a bed of sand .” 

— Center for Defense Information sci­ence fel­low Haninah Levine has been pass­ing tips and com­ments to Defense Tech for months. This is his first post for the site.

(Big ups: Xeni, DS)
UPDATE 11:08 AM: “Ain’t noth­ing you can do when it’s Strakes on a moth­er­fuck­ing plain.“
UPDATE 04/​03/​06 12:15 PM: John Fleck, from the Albuquerque Journal, has the answer to whether Divine Strake is nuke-​​related. “A Pentagon bud­get request is explicit about its
pur­pose: to “improve the warfighter’s con­fi­dence in select­ing the small­est nuclear yield nec­es­sary to destroy under­ground facil­i­ties while min­i­miz­ing col­lat­eral dam­age.“
Meanwhile, Globalsecurity​.org decodes the media gob­bledy­gook sur­round­ing the Divine Strake test.
UPDATE 04/​03/​06 5:15 PM:“In response to an email ear­lier today, a DTRA spokesper­son con­firmed that Divine Strake is the same event that is described in DTRA bud­get doc­u­ments as being a low-​​yield nuclear weapons shock sim­u­la­tion,” the FAS Strategic Security Blog notes.

It also turns out that Divine Strake is “an inte­gral part” of STRATCOM’s new Global Strike mis­sion, which is nor­mally reported to develop mainly non-​​nuclear capa­bil­i­ties against time-​​urgent tar­gets. Global Strike is one of the plil­lars of the Bush admin­is­tra­tions so-​​called New Triad which is said to be reduc­ing the role of nuclear weapons.

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  1. James says:
    March 31, 2006 at 11:33 am

    This last ques­tion is an inter­est­ing one that’s occurred to me also: can chem­i­cal explo­sives be used to sim­u­late the effect of a nuclear blast? Nuclear weapons don’t actu­ally “explode.” They give off enor­mous amounts of radi­a­tion that super­heat the sur­round­ing medium. It is the air around the weapon that is “explod­ing.“
    A chem­i­cal weapon’s phys­i­cal mass, on the other hand, IS the expand­ing medium. The whole mass does not explode simul­ta­ne­ously, but the explo­sion trav­els from the trig­ger­ing mech­a­nism out­ward, along with the shock wave. This tops out at around 8000 meters per sec­ond, I believe. But gamma radi­a­tion trav­els at the speed of light.
    The effect of a chem­i­cal explo­sion is a “ham­mer blow” while that of a nuclear weapon is to super­heat the sur­round­ing rock and the trapped gases in the rock with radi­a­tion trav­el­ling at light speed. These are very dif­fer­ent kill mech­a­nisms from a physics stand­point, though they might look the same on TV. I don’t think they’re try­ing to sim­u­late a nuclear blast with explo­sives. It don’t think it can be done.

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  2. Soj says:
    March 31, 2006 at 11:39 am

    The other 64k ques­tion is, if it was a gen­uine “mini” nuclear test, who would know?

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  3. Bill says:
    March 31, 2006 at 11:42 am

    How you you deliver a 700 ton bomb? You can’t. So it must be to sim­u­late somet­ing else. Or the 700 tons is a diss­in­for­ma­tion cover story for smaller actual ton­nage but will act like a 700 ton bang.
    Veeerrryy interesting.….….

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  4. Adam says:
    March 31, 2006 at 12:10 pm

    Soj,
    Anyone with a Geiger counter would know the dif­fer­ence.
    Adam

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  5. DS says:
    March 31, 2006 at 12:21 pm

    First off…I don’t think the bomb’s weight is 700 tons…I think it’s yield is equal to 700 tons of TNT. That means the bomb itself may actu­ally be much smaller than you’d think. Newer nitrate based for­mu­las have been devel­oped in the past few years that dwarf tra­di­tional high explo­sives in destruc­tive yield.
    Also, I don’t think it’s a sim­u­la­tion of a nuke. A nuke reac­tion still dwarfs the best explo­sives that can be pro­duced. The sheer destruc­tive power of a nuclear reac­tion remains unmatched, besides an antimatter-​​matter reaction…which the USAF is work­ing on sup­pos­edly. In any case, I think this is just what it’s reported as…a very pow­er­ful test of a con­ven­tional weapon. What I do find inter­est­ing is the descrip­tion of the actual weapon in the bud­getary report. It men­tions that it’s an “explo­sively shaped charge”. My guess is that it’s a war­head designed with an explo­sive ‘lens­ing’ struc­ture so as to focus the energy in increas­ingly pow­er­ful stages directly down into the tun­nel struc­ture that will be the site of the test.
    Damn…I love Wikipedia. :)

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  6. Matt Martin says:
    March 31, 2006 at 12:23 pm

    Or how ’bout this take–as of now, there is no mil­i­tary require­ment for RNEP and Congress has also killed the pro­gram line. However, if the data from a 700-​​ton con­ven­tional test shows short­com­ings vis-​​a-​​vis RNEP, wouldn’t that bol­ster the argu­ments of RNEP proponents?

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  7. DS says:
    March 31, 2006 at 1:02 pm

    Yet another take…this may not be about the explo­sives at all. I’m not sure if this is going to be an air dropped test or not, but if it is, it may actu­ally be a test of an exist­ing war­head with a newly hard­ened cas­ing to enable deeper pen­e­tra­tion. The con­ven­tional explo­sives within may just be to get an idea of how far down after pen­e­tra­tion the destruc­tive power will extend. It would be inter­est­ing to know how deeply buried this ‘tun­nel com­plex’ is that will be the test site.

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  8. James says:
    March 31, 2006 at 2:22 pm

    DS: read a lit­tle more care­fully. The press release specif­i­cally says the device is “700 tons of ammo­nium nitrate and fuel oil,” approx­i­mat­ing 593 tons of high explo­sive. No air­craft can lift 700 tons, there­fore the device is being emplaced.
    The rea­son for using ANFO is prob­a­bly pretty pedes­trian: the explo­sives are being man­u­fac­tured on site so they can be poured into a shaped cas­ing. Mining com­pa­nies do this all the time.
    As for using this as a cover for a nuke test, that’s just not really sen­si­ble. They are promis­ing us a mush­room cloud. If it was a nuke test, that cloud would con­tain charged par­ti­cles and rem­nants of fuel…a nuke test would be dis­cernible by satel­lite, not to men­tion by Geiger coun­ters down­range, as Adam noted.
    The fact that the device is being emplaced rules out cas­ing tests and any other deliv­ery mech­a­nism test­ing. The only real “con­spir­acy” the­ory I can see here is the pos­si­bil­ity that they’re not actu­ally test­ing the explo­sive device, they’re test­ing a struc­ture by try­ing to blow it up.
    Remember also that the mil­i­tary is engaged in com­bat against guer­ril­las in cave and tun­nel com­plexes in Afghanistan. They may actu­ally have a use for mas­sive emplaced explo­sive charges.

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  9. Redwolf says:
    March 31, 2006 at 3:43 pm

    The press release says “700 tons of ANFO.” A B1-​​B bomber can only lift a 37.5 ton bomb (75,000 lbs). Unless they are using a crane, they aren’t drop­ping this thing from any­where.
    This “impro­vised explo­sive device” will require two tanker trucks of fuel oil and 15–20 truck­loads of ammo­nium nitrate. (Although you could fit it into 5–6 coverd hop­per rail cars).
    It seems to me that this could be test to see how small tac­ti­cal nukes would per­form against an enemy in caves. The US made a num­ber of nuclear artillery shells that had yields of less than 500 tons of TNT.

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  10. bespoke says:
    March 31, 2006 at 6:08 pm

    I would def­i­nitely say this is being used as a proxy for small nuclear devices.
    ~600 tons of TNT equiv­a­lent means .6 kilo­tons which is well in range of devices we have:
    The B61 nuclear grav­ity bomb can be “dialed in” to a yield of .3 kilo­ton. The W79 nuclear shell could yield from .1 to 1.1 kilo­tons (it is out of ser­vice now, but the war­hears are sure to still be in stor­age). The Mk54 SADM (“Special Atomic Demolition Munition”, aka nuclear land mine) has a yield of .1 to 1 kilo­ton (I assume this war­head is also lan­guish­ing in our stockpikes).

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  11. DS says:
    April 1, 2006 at 2:39 am

    James:
    Actually I did read quite care­fully, but I don’t nec­es­sar­ily take every­thing our admin­is­tra­tion shoves out there for pub­lic con­sump­tion at face value.
    (ex. “there are WMD’s, let’s invade Iraq”, “we do not tor­ture pris­on­ers”, “i did not have sex with that woman”.…etc, etc)
    However you do make a good point, that there are no air­craft capa­ble of deliv­er­ing a 700 ton (in weight) weapon. Sooooo…why per­form the test at all? How do they plan to deliver such a weapon to a tar­get? Are they going to drive up in a cou­ple of big ass trucks, assem­ble the weapon in front of the tar­get, and then say “ok Terrorists…stay right there…we’ll be right back” ???

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  12. Jim says:
    April 1, 2006 at 9:59 pm

    There is an inter­est­ing 113 page PDF report on the upcom­ing bomb blast @ http://​www​.cryp​tome​.org, under the “off­site” sec­tion on bot­tom sec­tion of the home page.
    It cov­ers a lot of sub­jects regard­ing this blast. Studies about the envi­ron­men­tal impact, logis­tics, antic­i­pated SPL’s, pos­si­ble dan­ger to ani­mals, peo­ple, etc. Pretty in-​​depth article.

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  13. Alex says:
    April 2, 2006 at 9:57 am

    Or per­haps, they just thought it would be cool to let off 700 tons of ANFO in the desert. Hey! We’ll have a *mush­room cloud*! Over *Las Vegas*!

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  14. Derrick Thibeau says:
    April 2, 2006 at 11:58 am

    what about the prob­lem of eatrhquakes. Las Vegas is near or on a fault.

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  15. Gridlock says:
    April 2, 2006 at 8:21 pm

    ““a con­ven­tional alter­na­tive” to the polit­i­cally ornery Robust Nuclear Earth Penetrator, or “nuclear bunker-​​buster.”“
    So what do you drop a 700 ton bomb from? And why would you make it from ANFO instead of some nice hi-​​tech explo­sive?
    Confuzzled

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  16. s. holland says:
    April 3, 2006 at 5:09 am

    What will be in this mush­room cloud? Should we evac­u­ate the area? They warned the Russians but how about the 2 mil­lion peo­ple who live here. No one is telling us anything.

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  17. Charles says:
    April 3, 2006 at 12:35 pm

    Well, a 700 ton explo­sion may cause some win­dows to blast out depend­ing on dis­tance from the explo­sion. You will def­i­nitely hear it, though. If they’re warn­ing the Russians, this means it might be detectable seis­mo­log­i­cally (the pri­mary means of detect­ing nuclear tests, used to con­firm when India/​Pakistan entered the nuclear age) or per­haps visu­ally in the form of a giant flash.
    They are prob­a­bly test­ing this giant 700 ton mon­ster because they may have devel­oped chem­i­cal explo­sives whose yield in a artillery or air­craft bomb is equal to 700 tons of ANFO, and need to test if the chem­i­cal does enough dam­age to pro­jected tar­get to be worth fur­ther devel­op­ment dol­lars.
    It’s more prob­a­ble that they want to see if a non-​​nuclear bunker buster would even do the job. If it doesn’t, they’ll try again to push the low-​​rad nuke through to com­ple­tion.
    The best shaped charge they have devel­oped was ten meters wide I think, and I don’t recall it’s penetration…but it won’t be enough to punch through a ultra-​​deep cave.

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  18. na says:
    April 13, 2006 at 2:11 am

    Cant wait. Love to see things blow up.
    ——–> WE WHOULD MOVE THE TEST SITE TO
    A.) WASHINGTON
    B.) SAN FRANCISCO
    C.) MEXICO
    D.) 9TH CIRCUT COURT
    E.) IT REALLY DOESNT MATTER THE USA IS HISTORY

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  19. max says:
    April 14, 2006 at 3:11 pm

    Why when you type in “strake” into Google, do you get a Jesuit prepa­tory col­lege site? Jesuits are his­tor­i­cally pretty well known to be tied to con­spir­a­cies not of the tin hat vari­ety. Any takes on this? Seems some obvi­ous in-​​your-​​face NWO sym­bol­ogy is going around on this.
    Did you know it would take 40 semi trucks to move that much amo­nium nitrate to the site? Why would they use fer­til­izer? The last time I remem­ber them try­ing to sell us amo­nium nitrate was OKC bomb­ing. And we all (should) know what came of that whole sham…

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  20. blastmonger says:
    April 19, 2006 at 12:49 am

    Anybody know what time (PST) they will det­o­nate the Strake. Some of us might wanna go watch. Sounds like I’ll need earplugs (and sunshades?)

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  21. Jamie says:
    April 19, 2006 at 2:57 pm

    Does any­one know what time this things sup­posed to go off?
    Im get­ting mar­ried there June 1st and fly­ing out at 4pm on the 2nd– I really dont want to be in the air when it blows–
    Thanks

    Reply
  22. Cindy Roccio says:
    April 24, 2006 at 1:54 pm

    We’re plan­ning on cel­e­brat­ing our son’s 21st birth­day June 2–3 in Las Vegas. Do you think we should can­cel our plans? I’m feel­ing uneasy about all of this.

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  23. marsha says:
    April 26, 2006 at 10:38 pm

    Even Senator Orrin Hatch is opposed to this because it will throw thou­sands of tons of pre­vi­ously made radioac­tive par­ti­cles at the test site into the air. CANCEL ALL PLANS FOR VEGAS. THAT MIGHT STOP IT. THIS IS A CRIME and we must stop it. TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK.

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  24. BOB says:
    July 1, 2006 at 1:38 pm

    The open-​​air test will ignite 700 tons of ammo­nium nitrate/​fuel oil, good for 593 tons of high-​​explosives equiv­a­lent, JUST A PUN, BUT WHAT I WANT TO SEE IS THE AIRPLANE THAT DELIVERS THAT PAYLOAD TO IRAN.HA!HA! GOT TO BE SOME KIND OF A POLOCK JOKE IN THIS SOME WHERE.

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  25. kishman says:
    July 27, 2006 at 8:55 pm

    should have sched­uled it on the fourth of july…

    Reply
  26. jack says:
    July 5, 2007 at 5:20 pm

    it will be far from any­one we have sites for these tests, thay are non-​​nuke any­way no can­cer safe

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  27. Daniel says:
    July 11, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    okay, for the last time (prob­a­bly not), this has no nuclear ele­ment. The soil has already expired half-​​life AGES ago. The lead engineer’s fam­ily were down-​​winders, two of whom con­tracted can­cer, so I think he may be a lit­tle seri­ous about his work.
    Also, I don’t know where peo­ple seem to think that we are drop­ping a 700 ton bomb from the air. Weaponisation is not the goal of this test– its a bunker pena­tra­tion test. The 700 tons will likely be ammonium-​​nitrate pow­der poured into a big hole in the ground. It an entirely low-​​tech, low risk solu­tion to a real-​​world com­bat prob­lem of firma penetration.

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  28. bob says:
    March 6, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    why are there no images here? I guess i will go to google.

    Reply

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