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Home » Lasers and Ray Guns » Red Skies at Night, Ray Guns’ Delight?

Red Skies at Night, Ray Guns’ Delight?

Let’s say you’re an Air Force big­wig. You need to decide whether to invest in some shiny new directed energy weapon. Sure, “attack at the speed of light” sounds mighty good, but will the weapon actu­ally work under the con­di­tions youre inter­ested in, or will it run into some obsta­cle like, the atmosphere?

ATLC-130-sunset.jpgYou can’t just test-​​fire a mockup because noth­ing sim­i­lar exists yet, and, more impor­tantly, because these things don’t really scale very neatly. The expe­ri­ences of other DE pro­grams have got you wor­ried.

Well, now there’s a com­puter model to help you pre­dict just how a high-​​energy laser (HEL) weapon will behave under real con­di­tions. The High Energy Laser End-​​to-​​End Operational Simulation (HELEEOS), described in this upcom­ing paper, is the out­come of a multi-​​year, joint effort to cre­ate such a plan­ning tool for use through­out the DOD and the military.

Why is this so impor­tant? Well, laser physics is not exactly an area in which most high-​​level decision-​​makers have a lot of tech­ni­cal intu­ition. And with all the dif­fer­ent effects that go into the per­for­mance of a laser weapon from those inside the laser and its com­pan­ion opti­cal sys­tems, to the bewil­der­ing menagerie of phe­nom­ena known col­lec­tively as “atmos­pheric effects,” to beam-​​target inter­ac­tion effects it’s even hard for the pros to answer such a basic ques­tion as “how much range will we gain if we dou­ble the laser power?”

The poten­tial for poor decision-​​making is appar­ent in the his­tory of the Airborne Laser pro­gram. As long ago as 2004, a thor­ough (and not-​​unsympathetic) report by the American Physical Society con­cluded that the ABLs lethal range would be so short that inter­cept­ing an ICBM launched from cen­tral Iran, for exam­ple, could only be accom­plished, at best, from one small area in south­west­ern Turkmenistan. Yet the pro­gram still survives.

In fact, the paper tac­itly admits that all is not well within the HEL weapons com­mu­nity, stat­ing that one of the pri­mary pur­poses of HELEEOS is “the estab­lish­ment of trust among mil­i­tary leaders.”

So, what does this com­puter pro­gram do? Basically, for a set of laser para­me­ters (size, power, wave­length) and engage­ment geom­e­try (dis­tance from source to tar­get, alti­tudes and veloc­i­ties of source and tar­get, and so on), HELEEOS esti­mates how long the laser would need to dwell on the tar­get in order to achieve a cer­tain prob­a­bil­ity of kill if a kill is even possible.

But there’s more and this is where HELEEOS gets really cool. In order to model the effect of the atmos­phere, the sim­u­la­tion taps into a mas­sive data­base of world­wide cli­mate data and into detailed mod­els of atmos­pheric phe­nom­ena. This lets the user tai­lor the sim­u­la­tion of the weapon’s per­for­mance to a par­tic­u­lar loca­tion and time of year, and even to dif­fer­ent weather con­di­tions so you’ll know whether your new toy will work not just at Kirtland Air Force Base, but on a muggy night in Pyongyang or a dusty day in Kuwait.

(Of course, there’s a catch to this: the cli­mate data is com­plete only for those cor­ners of the world where the US mil­i­tary has friends so, for exam­ple, there’s an incon­ve­nient Iran-​​shaped blank on the map.)

Now, here’s this week’s $64,000 ques­tion: will this new “invest­ment strat­egy tool,” as the paper describes it, really close the realism-​​deficit in HEL plan­ning? It might; on the other hand, it might just give any unscrupu­lous folks a pow­er­ful tool for fig­ur­ing out just which fig­ures they need to fudge. I’ve argued else­where that tech­nol­ogy, how­ever use­ful, will not solve the prob­lem of insur­gency war­fare alone; the same can be said for the prob­lem of poor acqui­si­tion practices.

– Haninah Levine

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  1. elizzar says:
    April 7, 2006 at 10:31 am

    hi, very inter­est­ing. i guess my ques­tion would be, regard­less of the use of this sim­u­la­tion, is it going to be cost-​​effective any time soon to imple­ment and deploy such tech­nol­ogy? from what i’ve read a bet­ter mis­sile defence sys­tem would be pro­vided by the naval one (aegis ships /​ missles etc?), but this isn’t ‘cool’ sound enough, hence tests are cut etc, talk is of air­borne lasers and widely dis­trib­uted gorund-​​based inter­cep­tors. surely the naval sys­tem bypasses a lot of these issues (gives mobil­ity, avoids ter­ro­to­r­ial com­plaints etc).

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  2. TrustButVerify says:
    April 7, 2006 at 11:06 am

    Could it be that the naval envi­ron­ment isn’t friendly to good DE weapons per­for­mance? I’m think­ing of spray, fog, storms, all that busi­ness. Of course, that’s just an under­e­d­u­cated guess. Seems to me you’d have a good point, otherwise.

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  3. Haninah says:
    April 9, 2006 at 11:45 am

    @John:
    The point I was mak­ing is not that shoot­ing down a mis­sile from Turkmenistan isn’t good enough; it’s that our weapon is as good as use­less if Turkmenistan decides not to let us use their air­space, or the Iranians decide to launch from a slightly less cove­nient posi­tion, or our air­plane hap­pens to be slightly out of that one sweet spot at the very moment when the mis­sile goes up and the two-​​minute win­dow is avail­able, or the weather that day hap­pens to be wrong…

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  4. Charles says:
    April 9, 2006 at 12:40 pm

    On the same note, sup­port­ing tech­nolo­gies and sys­tems which lose much of their “com­pet­i­tive advan­tage” is rather waste­ful. Just as nobody builds steam engines for vehi­cles today, you drop what isn’t so good and sup­port the sys­tems with the most poten­tial.
    The sim­u­la­tor is an impor­tant step for laser physics; and it’s util­ity is not lim­ited to the ABL pro­gram. It’s pos­si­ble that ABL would work bet­ter at higher alti­tudes, due to lower gas par­ti­cle concentrations.

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