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Home » Missiles » Cruise Missiles do Recon?

Cruise Missiles do Recon?

cruise_takeoff.jpgYou can’t blame ‘em for try­ing, I guess. Defense con­trac­tors want to sell a big­ger pile of their gear to the Pentagon. So, from time to time, they come up with all kinds of, shall we say, sub-​​optimal expla­na­tions why their hard­ware should be used more often. Like jam­ming IEDs with super­sonic fight­ers. Or deliv­er­ing com­man­dos with 14,000-ton destroy­ers.
Here’s the lat­est brain­storm, cour­tesy of Raytheon: Use Tomahawk cruise mis­siles to han­dle recon­nais­sance. That’s right. $750,000-a-shot Tomahawks. Never mind the fact that a Predator drone can han­dle hun­dreds of spy mis­sions, for a $4.5 mil­lion price tag. (For argument’s sake, let’s say it costs $45,000 per flight, when you throw in main­te­nance money and pilot pay.) The Pentagon should spend 750 large for a one-​​time, one-​​way unmanned flight.
Now, Tomahawks are cer­tainly faster than Predators — 528 miles per hour, as opposed to 135. But we’ve got plenty of fighter jets doing super­sonic recon already. And the idea that, some­how, a Tomahawk could be a “cheaper… alter­na­tive to unmanned aer­ial vehi­cles,” as National Defense mag­a­zine tries to argue this month? C’mon, guys. I know you’ve got sales tar­gets to make. But this is tax­payer money here. You need a bet­ter expla­na­tion than that.

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  1. John says:
    April 28, 2006 at 2:18 pm

    In a non com­bat or light com­bat zone the high fly­ing Predators are the one to have, but in a com­bat zone a low fly­ing hard to hit tar­get mis­sile may be a bet­ter choice.
    Not low cost by any means though.
    In Vietnam the Teledyne Ryan AQM-​​34L “Firebee” was used for low level passes over highly defended targets.

    Reply
  2. Phil Fraering says:
    April 29, 2006 at 12:46 am

    Then again, if you stick a para­chute on the cruise mis­sile you might be able to make it reusable. I heard that sug­ges­tion some­where else, but I don’t remem­ber where.

    Reply
  3. chaz says:
    April 29, 2006 at 1:24 am

    Then on the other hand, if you want to do recon in Iran then this works.

    Reply
  4. Murc says:
    April 29, 2006 at 1:35 am

    I agree. This is just a dumb idea.
    I know the tac­ti­cal Tomahawk is cheaper then the orig­i­nal one, and can do a cou­ple hours worth of recon before head­ing towards its target…But using them just for recon is just redi­clu­ous.
    sounds like Raytheon is grasp­ing for straws.
    They should stick with the preda­tors, they are (rele­tively) cheap and stealthy.
    I do like the skunkworks con­cept of the UAV with fold­able wings that sits in a subs mis­sile tube…that idea is far bet­ter then raytheons.

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  5. supre says:
    April 29, 2006 at 7:22 am

    So, devel­op­ing new capa­bil­i­ties for exist­ing sys­tems is a bad thing and not a force mul­ti­plier?
    Could they be press­ing for their com­pany to make more money, yes. Are they doing it con­trary to US inter­ests, no! Such a device could be ben­e­fi­cial to the Navy in par­tic­u­lar, espe­cially dur­ing a shoot­ing war or for covert mis­sions.
    Use some freak­ing imag­i­na­tion in your “report­ing” instead of using predjudice.

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  6. Christian says:
    April 29, 2006 at 12:01 pm

    I think that this idea stinks. There are other meth­ods on get­ting infor­ma­tion on targ­erts. I have done some think­ing on what is try­ing to be done. Like every­thing else there are good things that are good and then there are bad things.
    The good things are the cruise missle is faster and there are no lives being lost. The bad are many, the cost for launch­ing, and for a one way flight.
    I will go with the idea with putting a para­chute but then the enemy will be able to track it and inter­cept the missle. All infor­ma­tion will be stored in there.

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  7. Byron Skinner says:
    April 30, 2006 at 2:23 pm

    Good Morning Guys,
    Although this on the sur­face sound like another expen­sive dumb idea dreamed up by those who see more “Tomahawk” sales as a career move I see one major really major dis­ad­van­tage to this idea.
    Lets say you are a coun­try, friendly or on Predident Bush axis of evel list(s), it really doesn’t mat­ter much, you see a “Tomahawk” fly­ing towards you, is it there to take your pic­ture or to blow some­thing up?
    In view of the irra­tional and irre­spon­si­ble behav­ior of the Bushes I would say this is a risk bet­ter not taken.
    ALLONS,
    Byron Skinner

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  8. John Doe says:
    May 1, 2006 at 11:07 am

    I don’t know. There is a bunch of talk about build­ing some sort of reconn drone for subs. One that is resus­able. Maybe reconn on a tomma­hawk most espe­cially if it doesn’t take away its abil­ity to do its prin­ci­pal job and can be self destruc­ted when its end game isn’t blow­ing some­thing up might not be entirely a bad idea. It would give ariel reconn to subs which could really use it. It could also poten­tially add reconn capa­bil­i­ties dur­ing its flight to a tar­get. Potentially in the long run even lead to a loi­ter­ing capa­bil­ity that could allow it to search for tar­gets before actu­ally attack­ing.
    While it a waste on the sur­face there are any num­ber of rea­sons why it might not be such a bad idea.

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    May 12, 2006 at 3:52 pm

    It sounds sim­i­lar to the tri­na­tional Cl-​​289 drone, isnt it??

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