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Home » Cops and Robbers » Anybody Got a Decent Explanation…

Anybody Got a Decent Explanation…

… for this?

The Veterans Affairs Department learned about the theft of elec­tronic data on 26.5 mil­lion vet­er­ans shortly after it occurred, on May 3, but waited two weeks before telling law enforce­ment agen­cies, offi­cials said Tuesday.
The offi­cials said inves­ti­ga­tors in the Justice Department and the Federal Bureau of Investigation were furi­ous with the lead­ers of the vet­er­ans agency for ini­tially try­ing to han­dle the loss of the data [pos­si­bly the largest data theft ever] s an inter­nal prob­lem through the agency’s inspec­tor gen­eral before com­ing for­ward.
Officials said the inves­ti­ga­tors in the Justice Department and F.B.I. had com­plained that the delay might have cost them clues to the where­abouts of the data, stored on com­puter disks that were stolen in a bur­glary on May 3 at the home of an agency employee in Maryland.

UPDATE 3:09 PM: This gets even bet­ter. VA Secretary Jim Nicholson “was not told about the miss­ing data until the night of May 16, or 13 days after the discs con­tain­ing the data were stolen in a bur­glary at the res­i­dence of a depart­ment employee who had taken them home with­out autho­riza­tion… [T]he sec­re­tary called the Federal Bureau of Investigation once he learned of the theft.“
UPDATE 4:40 PM: Axe has a killer piece for Military​.com today on Iraq vets’ strug­gle to adjust to post-​​war life.

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  1. Sentinel says:
    May 24, 2006 at 10:51 am

    I believe CBS news has cited that the expla­na­tion given for the delay in report­ing this up was to not tip off the thieves about what they had stolen. Not that I’m accept­ing that. This could still have been brought to other agen­cies atten­tion with­out nec­es­sar­ily inform­ing the pub­lic imme­di­atly.
    I also enjoyed another news pro­gram, I think it was The News Hour, where a “secu­rity expert” spouted all of the ways this data could have been encrypted with nobody dis­cussing the base­line of why the hell every veteran’s SSN info needs to be on a lap­top or portable stor­age device in the first place.

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  2. Andrew W says:
    May 24, 2006 at 11:07 am

    Sentinel, as I recall that was the explan­tion for why no pub­lic announce­ment was made. It doesn’t explain, how­ever, why no other law enforce­ment agen­cies were clued in.

    Reply
  3. Sarge says:
    May 24, 2006 at 11:23 am

    Well, my ques­tion is this.
    It seems like this wasn’t a theft of the vets ID data, it seems like it’s a theft/​break in and the crooks unknow­ingly nabbed discs that had the vet’s data.
    To me, the big ques­tions are:
    Do the thieves know what they’ve got (in the first place), and
    Do they know now, and are they now going to exploit that data (rather than just sell the hard­ware for cash).
    Oh, and Jim, you’re right that’s not the most secure loca­tion. What I heard was that the guy took stuff home to work on it, and, appar­ently by hap­pen­stance, his house got robbed.

    Reply
  4. Grumpy says:
    May 24, 2006 at 12:17 pm

    You just felt you had to add the word “decent”. I’m a service-​​connected dis­abeled vet. There is no decent way to explain to this issue. I’m tempted to go into many dif­fer­ent direc­tions. But I won’t even start down that path. I won’t spec­u­late, it would just add to the con­fu­sion, to which there is no short­age. I will say this much, there is some­thing seri­ously WRONG! This is not just with the VA.– Grumpy

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  5. JSAllison says:
    May 24, 2006 at 1:12 pm

    Don’t care why he took the stuff home, he shouldn’t have, period, full stop.
    If he wanted to work out his sift­ing algo­rithms at the house then cook­ing up fake data to work your mojo on is usu­ally the means of choice. This was just plain old stu­pid.
    He also needs to not be get­ting paid tax­payer dol­lars anymore.

    Reply
  6. ted says:
    May 24, 2006 at 9:28 pm

    Talk, talk, talk. Can any­body explain how many peo­ple have to be be vic­tims before the social secu­rity num­ber is abol­ished?
    I think the answer is for some­body to post the SSNs for every con­gress­man and their fam­ily mem­bers on a pub­lic web site … make it per­sonal … make them feel the pain.

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  7. Jaye says:
    May 25, 2006 at 9:02 pm

    The VA, the CIA and the NSA are in a three-​​way tie for most screwed up gov­ern­ment orga­ni­za­tion after the Keystone cops AKA the FBI and Homoland Security.

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  8. Roy McIntyre says:
    May 28, 2006 at 5:22 pm

    Anybody else won­der­ing who stole the data, how they knew it was there, and why the guy really brought his work home with him? I mean, was jew­elry and elec­tron­ics miss­ing from the house too, or did some­one just steal just the discs? If so, why would they do that? Who would want that kind of data? What would they be will­ing to pay for it? Maybe we should check the guy’s bank account to see if any large deposits have been made recently from, say, China.

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    Ron; China our best friend in the Pacific and most favored trad­ing part­ner? Next thing you will prob­a­bly say is that they are going to invade Taiwan soon and they too tor­ture peo­ple. No, my money is on the Russian Mafia or Jewish Mossad or maybe even a cou­ple of our good old American Corporations That’s a lot of con­sumer Info!

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