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Home » Missiles » Red Phones vs. Tridents

Red Phones vs. Tridents

It would be China’s worst night­mare. Perhaps in the midst of some mutual sabre-​​rattling over Taiwan, a Chinese satel­lite detects a mis­sile launch from the Pacific Ocean. A Trident mis­sile is headed China’s way. Computers race to deter­mine the tar­get while Chinese ICBMs go on high alert. The clock is tick­ing … and mil­lions of lives are in the bal­ance.
red phone.jpgThis apoc­a­lyp­tic sce­nario is becom­ing increas­ingly plau­si­ble as the U.S. mil­i­tary con­sid­ers arm­ing some of its Trident D5 submarine-​​launched bal­lis­tic mis­siles with con­ven­tional war­heads. A conventionally-​​armed Trident has cer­tain advan­tages over bombers, cruise mis­siles, or Special Forces for tak­ing out high-​​value tar­gets. It’s unmanned, extremely accu­rate for a mis­sile and fast: a Trident can hit any spot on the globe around 30 min­utes from launch.
But space sen­sors can’t tell a TNT-​​tipped Trident from one car­ry­ing a 100-​​kiloton nuclear war­head. So every time the U.S. fired a con­ven­tional Trident at a ter­ror­ist camp, Russia, China and every other nuclear power would suf­fer a major freak-​​out. [Inside Defense has been all over this con­tro­versy for a while — ed.]
In this month’s Proceedings (not yet online), Navy Capt. Terry Benedict admits the diplo­matic com­pli­ca­tions of using con­ven­tional Tridents. But he believes we can resolve them: “This change in our nation’s strate­gic force will require that no stone be left unturned to improve the mea­sures we have in place to pre­vent mis­un­der­stand­ings. Areas under inves­ti­ga­tion and review include exist­ing hot­lines and other com­mu­ni­ca­tions with Russia and China, diplo­macy, mil­i­tary dia­logue, plus train­ing, tests and exer­cises.“
The only work­able solu­tion in Benedict’s list is a hot­line by which the U.S. would warn other nuclear pow­ers before launch­ing a con­ven­tional Trident. But the hot­line would be just one link in a long chain of comms con­nect­ing national com­mand author­i­ties to strate­gic forces: this chain would have to func­tion per­fectly — and quickly — every time to avoid a major inci­dent.
And con­sider this: to veto a strike, a Chinese leader would only have to refuse to pick up the buzzing red phone.
– David Axe
UPDATE 3:45 PM: Noah here. Benedict’s plan, of course, assumes that China isn’t on the tar­get list for these new, de-​​nuked ICBMs. Trust me, it is.
I spoke recently with one of the authors of the new “Global Strike” doc­trine, which includes the con­ven­tional Tridents. And he talked about Global Strike largely in terms of deter­ring “poten­tially dan­ger­ous adver­saries again” with “big land masses on the other side of globe.” That don’t sound like Al-​​Qaeda to me.

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  1. BWJones says:
    June 1, 2006 at 10:20 pm

    Of course you know Noah, that the Navy never really has let go of the need to have a “Big Conflict” to pre­pare for. Otherwise the sub­ma­rine fleets lose defense appro­pri­a­tion dol­lars big time. There is a huge bat­tle going on right now in the Pentagon over force restruc­tur­ing and the car­rier groups and Marine Corps are win­ing out over the sub groups. Believe it or not, but there was HUGE resis­tance to putting con­ven­tional war­heads on top of nuclear mis­siles just as there was HUGE resis­tance to putting cruise mis­siles on subs from some indi­vid­u­als in the Navy. Now it seems obvi­ous, but ten years ago it was not.

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  2. Byron Skinner says:
    June 1, 2006 at 11:18 pm

    Good Evening David,
    I assume that the above post is ment to be humori­ous, a more absurd pro­posal I can’t imag­ine.
    First prob­lem is who are you going to call first?
    Like if we called Russia first, they wouldn’t call the tar­get?
    Second prob­lem sus­pose your tar­get is in a coun­try that has “nkes”?
    Anyone who is seri­ously con­sid­er­at­ing this idea should find another line of work.
    ALLONS,
    Byron Skinner

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  3. pedestrian says:
    June 2, 2006 at 12:37 am

    If they don’t feel like pick­ing up the red phone, fine. They will be in big trou­ble for not doing so, and putting the coun­try in great cri­sis result­ing China to “cease to exist”. You could also send diplo­mats before attacks, in case Chinese offi­cials do not pick up the phone. Face to face com­mu­ni­ca­tion will do fine.

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  4. TrustButVerify says:
    June 2, 2006 at 4:54 am

    Guess I’m not think­ing deep enough– but eight con­ven­tional war­heads seem like spit­ting at the ocean if you’re aim­ing for China. These things are presently touted as being meant for quick-​​reaction strikes to fleet­ing tar­gets of oppor­tu­nity which our reg­u­lar bag of tricks (JDAMS, Tomahawks) are too far away to respond in time.
    Which isn’t a prob­lem we really have with China. Those air­bases in South Korea and Japan, not to men­tion the local CVBGs, and the fact that imme­nent Chinese LTW/​MTW will be obvi­ous to the intel folks plenty of time before­hand.
    No, I don’t buy it. But I do agree that deploy­ment of the sys­tem prac­ti­cally demands that we work with China and the Russians, and in turn requires that we have suf­fi­cient con­fi­dence in them NOT to turn around and warn the tar­get.
    By the way– I don’t think the mil­i­tary is wor­ried about the Iranians or North Koreans going off on a hair trig­ger because of this. You need a good BMEWS of one sort or another, which only Russia and the US have. China’s is still rather rudimentary.

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  5. anon says:
    June 2, 2006 at 8:41 am

    For BWJones — I don’t under­stand your point. We’ve had cruise mis­siles on sub­marines for more than 25 years; the first President Bush took them off sur­face ships in 1991, but left the capa­bil­ity to carry them on sub­marines. There was no debate about it then, and cer­tainly no debate about in 5 years later, which matches your “10 years ago” time­frame as a time when it was not obvi­ous that we should have cruise mis­siles on sub­marines. Also, this move, to put con­ven­tional war­heads on Tridents, is not a move to save the sub­ma­rine fleet by giv­ing it a new job. If any­thing, the bal­lis­tic mis­sile sub­ma­rine fleet is on the firmest ground of all the strate­gic nuke deliv­ery vehi­cles. STRATCOM seems very accept­ing of cuts in the bomber fleet and ICBM force, with the knowl­dege that Tridents can basi­cally do it all (sur­vive at sea, launch promptly, strike accu­rately, etc.). As for your point that ther “was HUGE resis­tance to putting con­ven­tional war­heads on top of nuclear mis­siles”, when is this “was” period of time? This is a rel­a­tively new pro­posal (its been kick­ing around the Air Force and Navy for about 4 years.) The resis­tance IS there; Congress denied fund­ing for an RV study for the Navy in 2003–2004. And there are con­cerns about the Air Force and Navy ideas because of the prob­lem that oth­ers might mis­un­der­stand the launch. This is a cur­rent issue, not a past issue. The Navy is back in the mix now, because the Air Force was hav­ing trou­ble sell­ing its idea and because Cartright (STRATCOM) wanted this done fast (2 years), some­thing the Air Force didn’t seem capa­ble of doing.
    As for Trustbutverify’s ques­tion about tar­gets in China. Yes, there are air­bases that could send weapons towards China in a few hours, but they could not get to deep inte­rior areas within 30 min­utes, with­out risks to crews from air defense sys­tems, and with lit­tle or no warn­ing to the Chinese at the very early phases of a con­flict. I’m not going to spec­ify a tar­get base, but there is some con­cern about China’s future deploy­ment of sys­tems that might be used to inter­fere with the U.S. abil­ity to con­duct a con­flict (hmmm. we need our satel­lites), and con­cern about our abil­ity to take those capa­bli­ties out quickly and early, before the war really gets going.…
    As I said, Congress has been faced with this idea for awhile, and you can get more back­ground on it here: http://​www​.fas​.org/​s​g​p​/​c​r​s​/​n​u​k​e​/​R​L​3​3​0​6​7​.​pdf

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  6. Mycroft says:
    June 4, 2006 at 2:28 pm

    I think this over­states the prob­lem. I mean, with our Stealth Bomber fleet, every time an American stealth bomber goes into the air, the Russians and the Chinese have no reas­sur­ance where it’s going, or whether it’s car­ry­ing a nuclear pay­load.
    Global Strike just moves ICBMs into the same cat­e­gory. Rationally, peo­ple would rec­og­nize that they don’t have to freak unless they saw a few hun­dred mis­siles get launched simultaneously.

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  7. Joe Katzman says:
    June 5, 2006 at 10:10 pm

    It’s so sim­ple. If all you see are 1–3 mis­siles, there’s no way it’s a first strike. I mean, how stu­pid would that be? So if it’s only 1–3 mis­siles, it must be either a con­ven­tional war­head or a mis­take.
    This exact logic saved the world once, by the way, when a Soviet soft­ware glitch showed 3 American ICBMs headed in toward Russia.

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  8. TrustButVerify says:
    June 6, 2006 at 5:18 am

    TANSTAAFL, Mycroft. You’ve got a good point but I can think of a few rea­sons that there’s all this hoopla over bal­lis­tic mis­siles.
    1.) Ballistic mis­siles are eas­ier to detect and track, thanks in part to the big huge infrared sig­na­ture. You fire a mis­sile and the other guys know it. And if they’re not expect­ing it, they get ner­vous. Bombers have a sim­i­lar goosebump-​​generating capa­bil­ity– if the US bomber and tanker fleet dis­persed to alter­nate loca­tions, and then went to air­borne alert, they’d still be wor­ried. It equates to the same thing.
    For a long time a lot of work has gone in to noti­fy­ing folks prior to test launches; when the launch-​​detection satel­lites and missile-​​warning radar pick up an “unsched­uled” launch every­one sits up and takes notice. Witness the Norwegian sci­en­tific rocket which set off the Russian high com­mand about ten years ago.
    2.) Bombers can be recalled in the hours they’ll take to hit their tar­gets. If there’s a plan for defus­ing RVs in flight I haven’t heard of it (out­side of an Eric Harry novel). Once you launch an ICBM/​SLBM it’s like, final, you know?
    3.) Everyone thinks asso­ciates bal­lis­tic mis­siles with nuclear war­heads. Perhaps it’s reflex­ive to think mis­sile launch equals ther­monu­clear attack. This ties in with #1; cer­tain behav­iors (mis­siles launch­ing, bombers surg­ing) sug­gest nuclear inten­tions.
    Beyond those points, you’re right– and I think it’s a mat­ter of out of sight, out of mind. How DO they know every B-​​2 isn’t car­ring B61s?
    By the way, “anon”, my review of the global strike pro­gram points out a key fact– China seems to be a “place­holder”. Terrorist tar­gets can’t be eas­ily pre­dicted over the course of fif­teen years, but the Chinese can so they’re used as a con­ve­nient exam­ple. I still doubt we’re seri­ously con­sid­er­ing them as the REAL Global Strike tar­get when, as I said, an impend­ing cri­sis should give us some mar­shalling time.

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  9. RHYNO says:
    October 11, 2006 at 10:21 am

    SINCE OUR AIR POWER HAS BEEN USED SPARINGLY LATELY, A MASSIVE AIR AND MISSLE STRIKE SHOULD CRIPPLE N.KOREA. IT STARTS WHERE THIER TROOPS, ARMOR AND AIR FORM UP, AND ENDS WITH OUR TAC AIR PUMMELING THIER FORWARD LINES. WE SHOULD WARN THE CHINESE AND RUSSIANS MINUTES BEFORE A SUBMARINE MISSLE STRIKE. THOSE MISSLES CAN BURROW DEEP AND GET TO THE MOST VALUED TARGETS. GOOD TRANSITION, FROM NUKES TO H-​​E. BOOM!!! GOOD THINKING.

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  10. Alex says:
    October 12, 2006 at 12:51 am

    Anon, how come we can launch cruise missles off just about every sur­face ship we have? I mean… the new DDX (21) has a bunch of tom­a­hawks (and so does the arleigh burke which is in ser­vice NOW), the ticon­dero­gas, and many other ships. And also, the har­poon is tech­in­cally a cruise missile

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  11. Hal Gutterman says:
    April 9, 2007 at 10:02 am

    We are talk­ing about nuclear war as if it wouldn’t have a major effect on the very exis­tence of the free world. We talk about it as if the Russians didn’t have 10 — 15,000 war­heads; as if the Chinese didn’t have hun­dreds of war­heads; as if the other guy doesn’t have a plan. What if they have a few war­heads already in the U.S. sit­ting in 40′ con­tain­ers (an old Russian plan) just wait­ing to be recalled. We already have a green­house prob­lem. Can you imag­ine 100 or so nuclear weapons going off around the world with respect to the effect on our atmos­phere. You will not only be dying directly from the radi­a­tion fall­out. We will be giv­ing birth to kids with 3 legs. This has to be a last idea scenario.

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