Comments on: Norks Launch Missile Barrage; ICBM Fails

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By: Noah Shachtman

Noah Shachtman — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 16:11:15 +0000

Hey Bob:
I’m more than willing to eat crow (or shoe or whatever) about the “hoax” series of comments. Check out the mea culpas below.
But, just so we’re clear, I never wrote that “the administration’s claims that N.Korea was preparing to perform missile tests was a world-class hoax,” as you say. Instead, I suggested that the hoax was *Pyongyang’s*, not Washington’s. A big difference, no?
Anyway, here are my exact words:
“By the beginning of this week, it became clear that a world-class hoax had gone down. Either Pyongyang had hoodwinked the globe into thinking it was about to launch — or the Times was once again hyping up a national security threat.“
I’m not saying they were spot-on — they weren’t. But they also weren’t the accusations that you imply.
Best,
nms

By: Bob

Bob — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:15:23 +0000

I’m wonderfully amused that just a few days ago this site claimed that the administration’s claims that N.Korea was preparing to perform missile tests was a world-class hoax. Now that the missile tests have been performed comments focus on the administrations presumed failure to know with certainty how many missiles were fired. I liked the comment from one poster saying that nobody was surprised by the tests — given that you claimed the warnings were a world-class hoax and that the tests weren’t actually going to happen I imagine that this site’s contributors were actually very surprised.

By: Moose

Moose — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 20:52:24 +0000

All word on the Typeofdong-2 is that it failed, not that it was aborted. I’m pretty sure if it were and abort the NORK’s would be screaming that it were so quite loudly, becuase their foreign policy relies on people thinking they have an ICBM, not a pipe-dream.
As for not being able to track all the launches, we detected and tracked a missile launch that lasted under a minute on no warning hundreds of miles away? Sounds like a good job to me.

By: C-Low

C-Low — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:38:31 +0000

I would call it a win because they didn

By: Byron Skinner

Byron Skinner — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 17:55:49 +0000

Good Morning Folks,
Oh goody the North Koreans did it, still are according to an AP wire story the A.M., and the world didn’t come to an end.
I guess the story that is trying to bury itself here is, how many missiles were launched, 3,6, 7,10 still launching? and how long did Taepongdo-2 stay up, 35, 40, 42 sec. how long?
Since this event was anything but a surprise and every spy in the sky was watching how come we don’t know many were launched and from where?
I guess it’s time for SSN Jimmy Carter to start doing some bottom scratching in the Sea of Japan.
Meanwhile this show just how much respect Sec. of State Mzzz… Condoleezza has around the world. I assume Noah that whie this was happening she was out “Shoe Shopping” over on 5th. Ave.
ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

By: Cernig

Cernig — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 17:32:38 +0000

I watched the various reports as they came in and I have a problem with the narrative.
http://cernigsnewshog.blogspot.com/2006/07/4th-of-july-damb-squib.html
Look. Every single other missile was a shorter range Rodong-1 (a Scud copy). The Pentagon and the Japanese at first seemed confident the failed launch wasn’t a Taepongdo-2. Then some faceless guy from State pops up and says it was — and everyone else scurries to get “on message”. Color me sceptical.
Where’s the proof the only missile that failed is the one that all the fearmongering has been about? Without that hard proof, I will take the Occam’s Razor explanation — it was another Scud copy that just happened to fail on takeoff. The administration then decided to make political hay while the sun shines and the Pentagon and Japanese for a while got caught behind the story curve. It fits not only the events of yesterday but also this administration’s history.
It amazes me that the invertebrate press corps, having been lied to over Iraqi WMD intelligence and so much more, goes on blithely presenting this administration as being trustable when it says anything at all. They should be picking at the gaps in the administration’s storyline and demanding explanations. Instead they will take the administration at its belated word.
Regards, Cernig