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Home » FCS Watch » Army’s Out-​​of-​​Control “Future”

Army’s Out-​​of-​​Control “Future”

As gut-​​wrenching as today’s Times story on run­away Pentagon spend­ing is, the arti­cle doesn’t touch on what’s quickly becom­ing the biggest defense con­tract­ing boon­dog­gle of them all.
MULE012004-10-20.jpgReporter Leslie Wayne pulls out some great fac­toids in her piece today.
For instance, con­trac­tors on the Joint Strike Fighter, a next-​​generation fighter jet, received their full bonus award of $494 mil­lion from 1999 to 2003, even though the pro­gram was $10 bil­lion over bud­get and 11 months behind sched­ule.
Contractors in the F-​​22A fighter jet pro­gram, over the same time period, received 91 per­cent of their per­for­mance bonus, or $849 mil­lion, even though the cur­rent phase of the pro­gram was $10 bil­lion over bud­get and two years late.

And a handy chart shows that the per-​​unit cost of the F-​​22 was 189 per­cent higher than orig­i­nally expected.
But that same chart shows the Army’s mas­sive Future Combat Systems mod­ern­iza­tion pro­gram cost­ing a mere $127 bil­lion — up a pal­try 54 per­cent since it was intro­duced.
Which was true a cou­ple of days ago.
Now, how­ever, the Office of the Secretary of Defense has a new esti­mate: $300 bil­lion, to revamp about a third of the Army’s gear.
And remem­ber, these costs are soar­ing in the ear­li­est days of the pro­gram, before Future Combat’s major hard­ware pur­chases are set. The new-​​fangled tanks, the fam­ily of ground robots, the fight­ing vehi­cle replace­ments — in other words, the col­lec­tive heart of the pro­gram — are still enor­mous ques­tion marks. How much do you fig­ure the price of FCS will go up, once those projects are set?
That’s one of the rea­sons why Sen. John McCain — one of Congress’ few truly good guys on this issue — has been push­ing the Pentagon to adopt “fixed price” con­tracts for weapons R&D, instead of the insane “cost-​​plus” agree­ments, which give defense firms huge bonuses, even when their projects spin out of con­trol.
But, of course, spin­ning projects out of con­trol has become a con­trac­tor busi­ness strat­egy. Just look at what’s hap­pen­ing with the F-​​22 and JSF. So the Lockheeds and Boeings of the world are fight­ing McCain’s pro­vi­sions, hard. If they win, how much do you think Future Combat will cost next year?

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  1. Byron Skinner says:
    July 11, 2006 at 12:28 pm

    Good Morning Folks,
    I can’t really dis­agree with any­thing said by aglover. What we are see­ing are the fruits of con­sol­i­da­tion in the defense indus­try and the matur­ing of a cor­rupt polit­i­cal sys­tem.
    It is doubt­ful that any of the $tril­lion+ worth of sys­tems men­tioned above will con­tribute sig­nif­i­cally to win­ning the on going GWOT. Of course left out is the Navyy’s CVN-​​21, DD-​​21 and Latorial Combat ships that could easly dou­ble those $Trillion num­bers.
    It appears that the Terroristes unlike the Admirals and gen­er­als run­ning the “Imperial American” war machine have read a lit­tle his­tory. The best way to beat a super­power is to brake the trea­sury. Be it Athens in the 5th. Cent B.C., Rome in 300 A.D., Spain 1588 or Britian in the 19th. Century. All the bad guys have to do is keep them spend­ing their future.
    In today’s WSJ the answer to yes­ter­days poll ques­tion of how to keep the mil­i­tary up to strenght was higher pay and benifits, al Qaeda couldn’t agree more.
    Already when you con­sider Veterans ben­nies through this cen­tury from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan alone the bill could easly top­ple $2 Trillion by cen­turies end.
    There is no answer with in the cur­rent con­tex of the Government/​Industry we now have in the United States, the vot­ers in 2004 gave this struc­ture a firm man­date that the politi­cians are more then happy to exe­cute.
    Maybe a start might be where many of the states went, “Term Limits” for elected polit­i­cans, and that would be only a START.
    ALLONS,
    Byron Skinner

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  2. Haninah says:
    July 11, 2006 at 1:32 pm

    I think the rea­son their fig­ures on FCS are out­dated is that their whole graphic is pretty much lifted ver­ba­tim from this GAO report:
    http://​www​.gao​.gov/​n​e​w​.​i​t​e​m​s​/​d​0​6​5​8​5​t​.​pdf
    which came out in April. For those with the patience to slog through bureau­cratese, the GAO report says every­thing the Times piece says, but much more damningly.

    Reply
  3. Murc says:
    July 11, 2006 at 7:23 pm

    I dream of the day when DefenseTech stops read­ing Times…But Since they eat it all up, and love every bite.….I dont see this day com­ming any time soon.

    Reply
  4. scott says:
    July 11, 2006 at 7:58 pm

    Contracting is contracting.…research is research. When you want a new gad­get that nobody else makes ya gotta pay for it! Do you peo­ple seri­ously think that Defense con­trac­tors would even accept a project on a fixed cost basis?? Ever think about that? No rea­son to do it — I wouldn’t do it. How about you work­ing for 50k per year NO MATTER HOW MANY HOURS IT TAKES TO GET YOUR JOB DONE! Wouldn’t do it would ya! Seriously, the day con­trac­tors would accept less for their work is the same day pro­fes­sors and uni­ver­sity researchers should give up grants and gov­ern­ment “sub­sidy” of their so called “research”.
    Oh, by the way Byron, I have a great solu­tion to the ter­ror­ist con­cept of “break­ing the US trea­sury” — it’s called “Nuking the enemy” and it only costs a few bombs,easily afford­able, yet it earns a “world” of respect! It hap­pened before, remem­ber? Once the US gets tired of swat­ting the flies of the earth, we will even­tu­ally use a fly­swat­ter. Think of it like a Lion train­ing a cub…it’s nat­ural, one could pos­si­bly even con­sider it “envi­ron­men­tally friendly”.

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  5. pch says:
    July 12, 2006 at 2:34 pm

    FCS is so messed up it is hard to even describe it. The GAO reports for years have been scream­ing to shut it down but the Army has no “Plan B” so it rolls on. Billions have been spent and there are only out­dated car­toon images of the new vehi­cles and a FREE war game you can down­load to show for the bil­lions spent — what a JOKE! In May, almost 4 years after the pro­gram started, the FCS Manned Ground Vehicle had a inter­nal require­ments review and there are still dozens of crit­i­cal require­ments, like the vehi­cle weight, which are not resolved. That is UNACCEPTABLE!! The MGV pre­lim­i­nary design review is not sched­uled until 2008 and that will likely slip a year or more like all prior mile­stones have on this hor­ri­bly waste­ful pro­gram. Another calamity is the com­puter sys­tem. The con­trac­tor does not yet know what proces­sor chip they will use or how many chips it will take to do the job on each vehi­cle. They also plan to use chilled liq­uid cool­ing for the com­puter which has never been done on a ground vehi­cle, as well as opti­cal advanced-​​switching net­works, a tech­nol­ogy that is not mature enough to use in com­mer­cial com­put­ers let alone in a dirty mil­i­tary ground vehi­cle. It sounds sexy on paper but it is “Engineers run a-​​muck” throw­ing tech­nol­ogy at prob­lems they don’t really under­stand com­pletely.
    The GAO needs to get legal author­ity to shut down pro­grams that are turn­ing into train­wrecks like FCS. They do a good report on quan­ti­fy­ing the prob­lem but noth­ing ever changes. I know Boeing brags about how many con­gres­sional dis­tricts are touched by FCS, a tac­tic to make it hard for our spine­less con­gress­men to shut it down. What a scam.

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  6. covertsurf says:
    August 22, 2006 at 6:03 pm

    Good day,
    Keep in mind the United States econ­omy has always been based on defence spend­ing. Since the Country’s incep­tion this spendind actu­ally con­tributes to the M-​​3 and M-​​4 flow of our G.N.P .
    I know it is dif­fi­cult to remem­ber back to Macro-​​Econ., but try to. Heck, we are still pay­ing inter­est on rail­road ties laid dur­ing the Civil War!
    Of course their goal is to destroy our econ­omy nation­ally and glob­ally. Do you think the world would allow this?
    A total Economic col­lapse caused by a small ide­ol­ogy fol­lowed by such a minis­cule per­cent­age of the pop­u­la­tion?
    Just a thought,
    Covertsurf
    k

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  7. ian says:
    February 29, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    instead of devel­op­ing the fcs, maybe we could have all your childeren jion the army. the fcs will help sol­diers on the front line stay alive. whats the price tag on that

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