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> <channel><title>Comments on: Hezbollah’s Surprise Weapons</title> <atom:link href="http://defensetech.org/2006/07/19/hezbollahs-surprise-weapons/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/07/19/hezbollahs-surprise-weapons/</link> <description>The Future of the Military, Law Enforcement and National Security</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:27:57 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: jdowjsd</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/07/19/hezbollahs-surprise-weapons/comment-page-1/#comment-133886</link> <dc:creator>jdowjsd</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:32:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2027#comment-133886</guid> <description>dfwoewjfspoduwppoweruje </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dfwoewjfspoduwppoweruje</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: tmoan</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/07/19/hezbollahs-surprise-weapons/comment-page-1/#comment-133877</link> <dc:creator>tmoan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:33:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2027#comment-133877</guid> <description>first of all
for all of you who said hisballah was elected to the lebanese government.
we do not elect cabinet members.the president and the prime minister appoint them.of course after mp discussions and debates but in no way their view is mandatory.
second: after all the war that happened you still look down to the military techniques and technology of iran and hisballah and think that this is all they got,simply because that&#039;s all you saw.who told you that it&#039;s all they got.
third: terrorism is by all laws and conventions defined as violence against innocent civilians.
hisballah attacked israeli troops and out posts on the day of the kidnapping and any news about firing rockets at the neighboring north towns of israel is simple propaganda because i was in marwa7in which is visible from zarit that day.it was said to be bombed but nothing like that appears to be the case.
they kidnapped SOLDIERS not only this time but all the times after 1990 because they were aware of the conventions of war after the civil war in lebanon.They only kidnap to exchange with Kidnapped lebanese CIVILIANS by israel who&#039;s majority didn&#039;t do anything against israel.
after israel bombed some i think 11 bridges and killed 26 civilians on the first day and after nasrallah&#039;s speech at 8pm did the rocket launching and towns begin
this is nothing but self defence.
israel kills no massacres people day after day civilians and is not recognized once as terrorist.
i tell you something any rational person with enough political knowledge can say hisballah is less a terrorist than any other of their enemies.
Israel killed 1200+ civilians most are women and children and old people.
why because the others were fighting them and i dare any news agency or intelligence reports to contradict this by pure fact.
i dare you to bring me a figure less than 70% of men who were killed at fighting age if they were not killed in combat.which in any country is honor.
hisbollah protected us and still does from israel because you wish to be on the offensive and backed by the US to be super power in the region.
don&#039;t just call them terrorists simply because of self defense.this is very degrading to the lebanese people as a whole being called mountain boys and peasants.
by all israel itself declared its defeat on the mountain boys&#039; hands who are by the way the most educated with university degrees and well mannered people in this country and i tell you that by experience </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first of all<br
/> for all of you who said hisballah was elected to the lebanese government.<br
/> we do not elect cabinet members.the president and the prime minister appoint them.of course after mp discussions and debates but in no way their view is mandatory.<br
/> second: after all the war that happened you still look down to the military techniques and technology of iran and hisballah and think that this is all they got,simply because that’s all you saw.who told you that it’s all they got.<br
/> third: terrorism is by all laws and conventions defined as violence against innocent civilians.<br
/> hisballah attacked israeli troops and out posts on the day of the kidnapping and any news about firing rockets at the neighboring north towns of israel is simple propaganda because i was in marwa7in which is visible from zarit that day.it was said to be bombed but nothing like that appears to be the case.<br
/> they kidnapped SOLDIERS not only this time but all the times after 1990 because they were aware of the conventions of war after the civil war in lebanon.They only kidnap to exchange with Kidnapped lebanese CIVILIANS by israel who’s majority didn’t do anything against israel.<br
/> after israel bombed some i think 11 bridges and killed 26 civilians on the first day and after nasrallah’s speech at 8pm did the rocket launching and towns begin<br
/> this is nothing but self defence.<br
/> israel kills no massacres people day after day civilians and is not recognized once as terrorist.<br
/> i tell you something any rational person with enough political knowledge can say hisballah is less a terrorist than any other of their enemies.<br
/> Israel killed 1200+ civilians most are women and children and old people.<br
/> why because the others were fighting them and i dare any news agency or intelligence reports to contradict this by pure fact.<br
/> i dare you to bring me a figure less than 70% of men who were killed at fighting age if they were not killed in combat.which in any country is honor.<br
/> hisbollah protected us and still does from israel because you wish to be on the offensive and backed by the US to be super power in the region.<br
/> don’t just call them terrorists simply because of self defense.this is very degrading to the lebanese people as a whole being called mountain boys and peasants.<br
/> by all israel itself declared its defeat on the mountain boys’ hands who are by the way the most educated with university degrees and well mannered people in this country and i tell you that by experience</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: michael</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/07/19/hezbollahs-surprise-weapons/comment-page-1/#comment-133876</link> <dc:creator>michael</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:36:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2027#comment-133876</guid> <description>Pearse says &quot;Hezbollah was not elected to Lebanon&#039;s govt&quot; And then offers as his impeccable authority something called the Guerrilla News Network.
That&#039;s odd. The rest of the world remembers very clearly that Hezbollah has members elected into the current Lebanese government. Here&#039;s the Council on Foreign Relations report, for instance:
http://www.cfr.org/publication/8195/lebanon.html </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pearse says “Hezbollah was not elected to Lebanon’s govt” And then offers as his impeccable authority something called the Guerrilla News Network.<br
/> That’s odd. The rest of the world remembers very clearly that Hezbollah has members elected into the current Lebanese government. Here’s the Council on Foreign Relations report, for instance:<br
/> <a
href="http://www.cfr.org/publication/8195/lebanon.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cfr.org/publication/8195/lebanon.html</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Azrael</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/07/19/hezbollahs-surprise-weapons/comment-page-1/#comment-133875</link> <dc:creator>Azrael</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:12:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2027#comment-133875</guid> <description>Geez, lets do this one by the numbers.
It is obvious that the anti-ship missile that struck the sa&#039;ar 5 corvette Hanit was not a parafin fueled turbojet powered c-802 with a 165 kilogram HE warhead. The c-802 is an oth missile that requires more infrastructure to fire and target successfully than the Hizb-e-allah armed wing have at their disposal. Furthermore the warhead of the c-802 is capable of sinking a vessel of 10 kilotons, the sa&#039;ar 5 masses only ~1.3 kilotons and though critically damaged was not sunk.
From the distance of the Hanit from the lebanese shore and the level of damage suffered by the Hanit it is more likely that the antiship missile that crippled the israeli corvette was an iranian kosar missile. This missile is a modified c-701, the range is enhanced slightly the warhead remains the same but the electro-opitical tracker is replaced with a millimeter search radar. The kosar can be launched off the back of an toyota truck at a target within visible range. The kosar comes in a sealed airtight container and can be stored for long periods of time until needed. The damage suffered by the Hanit most closely matches the size of the warhead fielded by the kosar.
Also i&#039;ve read various odd reports about a high-low attack against the hanit by multiple missiles and that the hanit&#039;s defense systems were turned off to prevent fratricide; both are false.
Firing a missile into a high arc above a vessel will not in anyway degrade the ability of the passive ecm package from doing it&#039;s job against sea-skimmers. Likewise the anti-missile defense systems will not in anyway splash friendly aircraft, the range of the phalanx gun coupled with the operating altitude of jets armed with pgms makes this an impossibility as evidenced by the fact that a nearby idf vessel had it&#039;s ecm pakage and anti-missile phalanx gun operational. The cambodian vessel that was destroyed was too far at sea for a lucky lock on by an errant shore launched missile, it was most likely destroyed by accident by the idf who may have mistaken it for a threat source, a la the uss liberty :)
At the end of the day, it looks as if the iranians have modified the c-701 enough to be able to defeat the anti-missile systems of the the idf, which are heavily reliant on begged, borrowed and stolen u.s. technology; i, and every u.s. ship captain who&#039;ll have to transit the straits of hormuz or even come close to the persian gulf, wonder to what degreee the iranians have modified other weapons in their arsenal, namely the c-802. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, lets do this one by the numbers.<br
/> It is obvious that the anti-ship missile that struck the sa’ar 5 corvette Hanit was not a parafin fueled turbojet powered c-802 with a 165 kilogram HE warhead. The c-802 is an oth missile that requires more infrastructure to fire and target successfully than the Hizb-e-allah armed wing have at their disposal. Furthermore the warhead of the c-802 is capable of sinking a vessel of 10 kilotons, the sa’ar 5 masses only ~1.3 kilotons and though critically damaged was not sunk.<br
/> From the distance of the Hanit from the lebanese shore and the level of damage suffered by the Hanit it is more likely that the antiship missile that crippled the israeli corvette was an iranian kosar missile. This missile is a modified c-701, the range is enhanced slightly the warhead remains the same but the electro-opitical tracker is replaced with a millimeter search radar. The kosar can be launched off the back of an toyota truck at a target within visible range. The kosar comes in a sealed airtight container and can be stored for long periods of time until needed. The damage suffered by the Hanit most closely matches the size of the warhead fielded by the kosar.<br
/> Also i’ve read various odd reports about a high-low attack against the hanit by multiple missiles and that the hanit’s defense systems were turned off to prevent fratricide; both are false.<br
/> Firing a missile into a high arc above a vessel will not in anyway degrade the ability of the passive ecm package from doing it’s job against sea-skimmers. Likewise the anti-missile defense systems will not in anyway splash friendly aircraft, the range of the phalanx gun coupled with the operating altitude of jets armed with pgms makes this an impossibility as evidenced by the fact that a nearby idf vessel had it’s ecm pakage and anti-missile phalanx gun operational. The cambodian vessel that was destroyed was too far at sea for a lucky lock on by an errant shore launched missile, it was most likely destroyed by accident by the idf who may have mistaken it for a threat source, a la the uss liberty <img
src='http://defensetech.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br
/> At the end of the day, it looks as if the iranians have modified the c-701 enough to be able to defeat the anti-missile systems of the the idf, which are heavily reliant on begged, borrowed and stolen u.s. technology; i, and every u.s. ship captain who’ll have to transit the straits of hormuz or even come close to the persian gulf, wonder to what degreee the iranians have modified other weapons in their arsenal, namely the c-802.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eric</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/07/19/hezbollahs-surprise-weapons/comment-page-1/#comment-133874</link> <dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:18:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2027#comment-133874</guid> <description>Pearce, not only are there two Hezbollah ministers in the Lebanese government, there are also 23 Hezbollah MPs. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pearce, not only are there two Hezbollah ministers in the Lebanese government, there are also 23 Hezbollah MPs.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: pedestrian</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/07/19/hezbollahs-surprise-weapons/comment-page-1/#comment-133873</link> <dc:creator>pedestrian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 04:33:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2027#comment-133873</guid> <description>From the next article (&quot;DOOD KATYUSHAZ R COMIN 2 U&quot;):
&gt;FEMA is working on a similar system here in the U.S., with a twist. FEMA&#039;s text messages
&gt;will &quot;tell you to get to a television or radio because something unfortunate has happened that
&gt;you need to know about.&quot; Sounds like Cellact&#039;s straightforward alerts make a little more sense.
What the... Why does US gets slammed when Israel is given a standing ovation for similar techniques and technology? I can&#039;t believe FEMA&#039;s text message system only gives limited information, but I believe FEMA has something SUPERIOR than Israel. FEMA also plans to use the Internet to access and cut into (in other terms, hack) PCs giving emergency stress calls. I would guess there would be people slamming FEMA for cutting into everyone&#039;s PC that looks like hacking, but would give a standing ovation if it was Israel doing the same. There is something wrong here. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the next article (“DOOD KATYUSHAZ R COMIN 2 U”):<br
/> &gt;FEMA is working on a similar system here in the U.S., with a twist. FEMA’s text messages<br
/> &gt;will “tell you to get to a television or radio because something unfortunate has happened that<br
/> &gt;you need to know about.” Sounds like Cellact’s straightforward alerts make a little more sense.<br
/> What the… Why does US gets slammed when Israel is given a standing ovation for similar techniques and technology? I can’t believe FEMA’s text message system only gives limited information, but I believe FEMA has something SUPERIOR than Israel. FEMA also plans to use the Internet to access and cut into (in other terms, hack) PCs giving emergency stress calls. I would guess there would be people slamming FEMA for cutting into everyone’s PC that looks like hacking, but would give a standing ovation if it was Israel doing the same. There is something wrong here.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: anon</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/07/19/hezbollahs-surprise-weapons/comment-page-1/#comment-20095</link> <dc:creator>anon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 02:43:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2027#comment-20095</guid> <description>Pearse: Hezbollah has two ministers in the lebanese
government ... where do you get off posting propaganda references?
--gh </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pearse: Hezbollah has two ministers in the lebanese<br
/> government … where do you get off posting propaganda references?<br
/> –gh</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Pearse</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/07/19/hezbollahs-surprise-weapons/comment-page-1/#comment-133872</link> <dc:creator>Pearse</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 02:30:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2027#comment-133872</guid> <description>&quot;I don&#039;t know a ton about Middle East politics&quot;
You made this clear by saying:
&quot;Hezbollah was elected into Lebanon&#039;s government.&quot;
Hezbollah was not elected to Lebanon&#039;s govt, and there is no justification for the scale of Israeli attacks on civilian, economic and infastructural targets.
You may be thinking about Hamas&#039; political wing getting elected to head the Palestinian authority which is entirely separate and in no way justifies the ongoing slaughter in Lebanon.
For up to date information untainted by propaganda please see www.gnn.tv. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I don’t know a ton about Middle East politics“<br
/> You made this clear by saying:<br
/> “Hezbollah was elected into Lebanon’s government.“<br
/> Hezbollah was not elected to Lebanon’s govt, and there is no justification for the scale of Israeli attacks on civilian, economic and infastructural targets.<br
/> You may be thinking about Hamas’ political wing getting elected to head the Palestinian authority which is entirely separate and in no way justifies the ongoing slaughter in Lebanon.<br
/> For up to date information untainted by propaganda please see <a
href="http://www.gnn.tv" rel="nofollow">http://www.gnn.tv</a>.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Brian</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/07/19/hezbollahs-surprise-weapons/comment-page-1/#comment-133871</link> <dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:34:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2027#comment-133871</guid> <description>&quot;Took it out with a heat-seeker, Dylan.  That&#039;s pretty sophistocated tech for a bunch of half-assed mountain boys.&quot;
&quot;Guess they&#039;re getting better equipped all the time.&quot;
Suprisingly sophistocated technology?  Missing soldiers?  Very hot summer?  Obviously, the Israelis need to watch out for the Predator. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Took it out with a heat-seeker, Dylan.  That’s pretty sophistocated tech for a bunch of half-assed mountain boys.“<br
/> “Guess they’re getting better equipped all the time.“<br
/> Suprisingly sophistocated technology?  Missing soldiers?  Very hot summer?  Obviously, the Israelis need to watch out for the Predator.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jaye</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/07/19/hezbollahs-surprise-weapons/comment-page-1/#comment-133870</link> <dc:creator>Jaye</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 22:13:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2027#comment-133870</guid> <description>Hi Tech, Low Tech, US and Israeli pilots are a bunch of Baby Killers! Who, when they are flying are tough guys but when they are shot down become Homos! Add to the list the Coward Hezbollah Missile and Rocket boys too. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tech, Low Tech, US and Israeli pilots are a bunch of Baby Killers! Who, when they are flying are tough guys but when they are shot down become Homos! Add to the list the Coward Hezbollah Missile and Rocket boys too.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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