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		<title>By: bruce</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2006/07/21/inside-israel-hez-ground-war-strategies/#comment-134141</link>
		<dc:creator>bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pres Bush will pick up the Israeli tab all right budd!!!$125 MILLION in aviation fuel bill for the Israeli air campaign was sent to the American taxpayer...Who the hell knows how much for a rush shipment of precision guided munitions to replace expended Israeli stocks!!
This over and above the $15 MILLION A DAY in US taxpayer aid Israel receives.
This ofcourse does not include the Lebanese tab of infrasructure destruction caused by Israel.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pres Bush will pick up the Israeli tab all right budd!!!$125 MILLION in aviation fuel bill for the Israeli air campaign was sent to the American taxpayer…Who the hell knows how much for a rush shipment of precision guided munitions to replace expended Israeli stocks!!<br />
This over and above the $15 MILLION A DAY in US taxpayer aid Israel receives.<br />
This ofcourse does not include the Lebanese tab of infrasructure destruction caused by Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: 1/7 Twist</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2006/07/21/inside-israel-hez-ground-war-strategies/#comment-20457</link>
		<dc:creator>1/7 Twist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 23:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oohrah!  War Buff you are a good man.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oohrah!  War Buff you are a good man.</p>
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		<title>By: abbey</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2006/07/21/inside-israel-hez-ground-war-strategies/#comment-134140</link>
		<dc:creator>abbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really pray this whole thing can come to an end. God loves that we live as one, motivated by the desire to help one another, living through our differences and making a better world available for generations to come. I beseech both empires &amp; all nations of the world to embrace the path of peace.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really pray this whole thing can come to an end. God loves that we live as one, motivated by the desire to help one another, living through our differences and making a better world available for generations to come. I beseech both empires &amp; all nations of the world to embrace the path of peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Daren</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2006/07/21/inside-israel-hez-ground-war-strategies/#comment-134139</link>
		<dc:creator>Daren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 17:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noah, I think John B was referring to the conflict known as the &#039;Malaya Emergency&#039; fought between 1948-60 by the British against Communist guerillas (drawn mostly from the ethnic Chinese population).
The campaign was hard fought and cost around 600 British lives, but the &#039;insurgents&#039; were ultimately defeated and the campaign is often regarded as a textbook example of an anti-insurgency campaign.
Furthermore the British army has more experience in this field than any other in history.
And with regard to your comment we&#039;ve only lost one major war against ANYBODY since the 15th century.
Perhaps you&#039;d like to learn a bit more history and engage your brain before making such statements.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noah, I think John B was referring to the conflict known as the ‘Malaya Emergency’ fought between 1948–60 by the British against Communist guerillas (drawn mostly from the ethnic Chinese population).<br />
The campaign was hard fought and cost around 600 British lives, but the ‘insurgents’ were ultimately defeated and the campaign is often regarded as a textbook example of an anti-insurgency campaign.<br />
Furthermore the British army has more experience in this field than any other in history.<br />
And with regard to your comment we’ve only lost one major war against ANYBODY since the 15th century.<br />
Perhaps you’d like to learn a bit more history and engage your brain before making such statements.</p>
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		<title>By: John B</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2006/07/21/inside-israel-hez-ground-war-strategies/#comment-20453</link>
		<dc:creator>John B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 23:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:  &quot;What most are forgetting is that &#039;insurgencies&#039; usually win.&quot;
Tell that to the British about the Malaya campaign.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  “What most are forgetting is that ‘insurgencies’ usually win.“<br />
Tell that to the British about the Malaya campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2006/07/21/inside-israel-hez-ground-war-strategies/#comment-134137</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What most are forgetting is that &#039;insurgencies&#039; usually win. Vietnam, Afghanistan (the Soviets), Algeria, and so on are simply examples of places where superior forces were forced to capitulate. It is only a matter of time before Iraq and Afghanistan are added to that list.
Israel&#039;s strikes, regardless of how damaging or not they may be to Hezbollah, are far more damaging to Israel itself in the same way that the US occupation of Iraq is to the US.
The only military way to defeat an insurgency is a &quot;final solution&quot; in which the entire population is decimated, thereby eliminating all actual and potential foes. This is &quot;total war&quot;, and no target, tactic, weapon or strategy is off-limits.
The media is complicit in total war. We don&#039;t hear a peep about violations of the Geneva Convention (targeting of civilians and civilian infrastructure, torture, etc.). The media whitewashes such counter-information, blocking news and especially images that would have any sane human being screaming in their sleep (http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.info/ - be warned).
Israel is as responsible for creating these enemies as the US has been in creating Al Qaeda (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3340101/). The Mossaud, taking a page from the CIA, has funded groups that later turn out to be even worse enemies that those they were trying to destabilize. By providing support for Muslim fundamentalists in an attempt to destabilize Arab regimes, Israel has not only further alienated those neighboring Arab countries, it has empowered it&#039;s most dangerous enemy, which has now been elected to office in Palestine (Hamas) and Lebanon (Hezbollah).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What most are forgetting is that ‘insurgencies’ usually win. Vietnam, Afghanistan (the Soviets), Algeria, and so on are simply examples of places where superior forces were forced to capitulate. It is only a matter of time before Iraq and Afghanistan are added to that list.<br />
Israel’s strikes, regardless of how damaging or not they may be to Hezbollah, are far more damaging to Israel itself in the same way that the US occupation of Iraq is to the US.<br />
The only military way to defeat an insurgency is a “final solution” in which the entire population is decimated, thereby eliminating all actual and potential foes. This is “total war”, and no target, tactic, weapon or strategy is off-limits.<br />
The media is complicit in total war. We don’t hear a peep about violations of the Geneva Convention (targeting of civilians and civilian infrastructure, torture, etc.). The media whitewashes such counter-information, blocking news and especially images that would have any sane human being screaming in their sleep (<a href="http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.info/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.info/</a> — be warned).<br />
Israel is as responsible for creating these enemies as the US has been in creating Al Qaeda (<a href="http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3340101/" rel="nofollow">http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3340101/</a>). The Mossaud, taking a page from the CIA, has funded groups that later turn out to be even worse enemies that those they were trying to destabilize. By providing support for Muslim fundamentalists in an attempt to destabilize Arab regimes, Israel has not only further alienated those neighboring Arab countries, it has empowered it’s most dangerous enemy, which has now been elected to office in Palestine (Hamas) and Lebanon (Hezbollah).</p>
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		<title>By: C.A. Bollfrass</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.A. Bollfrass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 03:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have sleeper cells in the Texas prison system.
When the Democrat Senate under George Mitchell took away our prisons, they allowed prison gangs to form.  Each prison has its Islamic gang, tended to by so called &quot;clerics&quot; from the outside, with funds from unknown sources.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have sleeper cells in the Texas prison system.<br />
When the Democrat Senate under George Mitchell took away our prisons, they allowed prison gangs to form.  Each prison has its Islamic gang, tended to by so called “clerics” from the outside, with funds from unknown sources.</p>
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		<title>By: FooMan</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2006/07/21/inside-israel-hez-ground-war-strategies/#comment-134135</link>
		<dc:creator>FooMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in the navy when the Israelis warned the PLO about suicide bombings and the Lebanese &#039;safe zones&#039; When they ignored the warning the U.S. Marines on peacekeeping duties on the Lebanese border got a visit from &#039;a scruffy looking guy in a beat up jeep.&#039;  He identified himself as a brigadier general and informed the marines that needed to move.  The marine det. commander replied that they were U.N. peace keepers and that thye were staying.  The brigadier responded that had fourteen people with one .50 machine gun and a radio and he had 64 tanks and they wouldn&#039;t stop them, he then ever so politely requested they evaquate to the nearest U.S. position not is Isreal or Lebanon, which turned out to be our ship.  Within minutes of their evacuation the Isreali&#039;s began &quot;Operation Peace in Galili (sp?)&quot;
which resulted in a confirmed scores of 75 kills of SAM sites for 0 (that is ZERO!)Isreali aircraft and resulted in the PLO evacuating to Cyprus for the next five years.  Isreal is an anomoly in the modern world in that when they tell you not to do something there are serious and permanent consequences when you ignore them.  While verging on overkill they do seem to get their point across ask those trying to rebuild the highway bridges to Syria or restore power to the southern half of the country.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in the navy when the Israelis warned the PLO about suicide bombings and the Lebanese ‘safe zones’ When they ignored the warning the U.S. Marines on peacekeeping duties on the Lebanese border got a visit from ‘a scruffy looking guy in a beat up jeep.’  He identified himself as a brigadier general and informed the marines that needed to move.  The marine det. commander replied that they were U.N. peace keepers and that thye were staying.  The brigadier responded that had fourteen people with one .50 machine gun and a radio and he had 64 tanks and they wouldn’t stop them, he then ever so politely requested they evaquate to the nearest U.S. position not is Isreal or Lebanon, which turned out to be our ship.  Within minutes of their evacuation the Isreali’s began “Operation Peace in Galili (sp?)“<br />
which resulted in a confirmed scores of 75 kills of SAM sites for 0 (that is ZERO!)Isreali aircraft and resulted in the PLO evacuating to Cyprus for the next five years.  Isreal is an anomoly in the modern world in that when they tell you not to do something there are serious and permanent consequences when you ignore them.  While verging on overkill they do seem to get their point across ask those trying to rebuild the highway bridges to Syria or restore power to the southern half of the country.</p>
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		<title>By: TheDreamer</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheDreamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 04:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Israel has bunker busters, remember? &quot;
Interestingly, Israel has run out of precision guided munitions and is currently asking for a US resupply during the middle of their air campagin. As for bunker busting, it requires the use of troops to at the very least locate the positions, with exacting detail. Meanwhile there is certainly mountiansides and pathways prepped for the assult.
&quot;Can you really say with a straight face that Israeli logistics couldn&#039;t easily handle supplying forces a mere 30-40 miles distant from the Israeli border?&quot;
The road from baghdad airport is still not secure. Enough said, however I will point out that it is through hostile terrian in both population and geography, meanwhile all of the roads have been bombed by israel. Beyond this there is a lot of evidence suggesting that hez basicly was the research lab for IEDs, so you can bet that they are very prepared to use them on the supply lines after forcing israel deep into the territory to push back the rocket attacks.
&quot;No, Israel can withdraw, Israel has already withdrawn before.&quot;
I am afraid you are wrong in this, it is not possible for an israeli withdrawl. Israel withdrew before, after an 18 year occupation, which still failed to stop the threat. Politically in israel all rocket attacks must be ceased.
&quot; Lebanon already has a government in place, Israel is NOT nation-building.
Are you refering to the government was only barely begining of pulling the territory out of a long civil war and has yet even begin to control Hezbollah, which composes a significant part of said government? Israel cannot just wall of lebanon like it did to Gaza; it cannot stop the resupply, but it must try, and the only way it can do this is the total anihilation of the threat. Israel would rather lebanaon in civil war, though the stray rocket into israel would make withdraw still impossible. The key fact here is if israel ceases activity on lebanon and one more rocket hits israel olmberts government is going to more likely than not collapse.
&quot;The best bet is for the IDF to push everyone out of the buffer zone and search all areas destroying anything that has been used by Hezbollah. Leave nothing for them to use in the future.&quot;
That sounds like a perfect scenario for one of the worst humanitarian disasters I&#039;ve ever heard of, not only with the refugees but it&#039;ll spark massive tensions and pressure to return to civil war.
&quot;Hezbollah is not going to stand and fight like an army so there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Israel has bunker busters, remember? “<br />
Interestingly, Israel has run out of precision guided munitions and is currently asking for a US resupply during the middle of their air campagin. As for bunker busting, it requires the use of troops to at the very least locate the positions, with exacting detail. Meanwhile there is certainly mountiansides and pathways prepped for the assult.<br />
“Can you really say with a straight face that Israeli logistics couldn’t easily handle supplying forces a mere 30–40 miles distant from the Israeli border?“<br />
The road from baghdad airport is still not secure. Enough said, however I will point out that it is through hostile terrian in both population and geography, meanwhile all of the roads have been bombed by israel. Beyond this there is a lot of evidence suggesting that hez basicly was the research lab for IEDs, so you can bet that they are very prepared to use them on the supply lines after forcing israel deep into the territory to push back the rocket attacks.<br />
“No, Israel can withdraw, Israel has already withdrawn before.“<br />
I am afraid you are wrong in this, it is not possible for an israeli withdrawl. Israel withdrew before, after an 18 year occupation, which still failed to stop the threat. Politically in israel all rocket attacks must be ceased.<br />
” Lebanon already has a government in place, Israel is NOT nation-building.<br />
Are you refering to the government was only barely begining of pulling the territory out of a long civil war and has yet even begin to control Hezbollah, which composes a significant part of said government? Israel cannot just wall of lebanon like it did to Gaza; it cannot stop the resupply, but it must try, and the only way it can do this is the total anihilation of the threat. Israel would rather lebanaon in civil war, though the stray rocket into israel would make withdraw still impossible. The key fact here is if israel ceases activity on lebanon and one more rocket hits israel olmberts government is going to more likely than not collapse.<br />
“The best bet is for the IDF to push everyone out of the buffer zone and search all areas destroying anything that has been used by Hezbollah. Leave nothing for them to use in the future.“<br />
That sounds like a perfect scenario for one of the worst humanitarian disasters I’ve ever heard of, not only with the refugees but it’ll spark massive tensions and pressure to return to civil war.<br />
“Hezbollah is not going to stand and fight like an army so there</p>
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		<title>By: punisher1</title>
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		<dc:creator>punisher1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 23:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hezbollah can only fight at basic levels of ground combat with no armor and little artillery or what seems to be a poor excuse for rockets.
The best bet is for the IDF to push everyone out of the buffer zone and search all areas destroying anything that has been used by Hezbollah. Leave nothing for them to use in the future.
Hezbollah is not going to stand and fight like an army so there&#039;s no point in hanging around for suicide and poorly guided rocket attacks. Now that the IDF parades thru the streets Hezbollah is nowhere to be seen. So much for all that bravado and flag burning.
It just shows how weak and cowardly they really are.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hezbollah can only fight at basic levels of ground combat with no armor and little artillery or what seems to be a poor excuse for rockets.<br />
The best bet is for the IDF to push everyone out of the buffer zone and search all areas destroying anything that has been used by Hezbollah. Leave nothing for them to use in the future.<br />
Hezbollah is not going to stand and fight like an army so there’s no point in hanging around for suicide and poorly guided rocket attacks. Now that the IDF parades thru the streets Hezbollah is nowhere to be seen. So much for all that bravado and flag burning.<br />
It just shows how weak and cowardly they really are.</p>
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