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> <channel><title>Comments on: Dragon Skin: Proven Tough?</title> <atom:link href="http://defensetech.org/2006/09/22/dragon-skin-proven-tough/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/09/22/dragon-skin-proven-tough/</link> <description>The Future of the Military, Law Enforcement and National Security</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:51:57 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Bob</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/09/22/dragon-skin-proven-tough/comment-page-12/#comment-148717</link> <dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:08:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3320#comment-148717</guid> <description>If I am not mistaken, the man that developed Interceptor, tested Dragon Skin,and called it &quot;far superior&quot; to his own vest.  &quot;If I am getting shot at, I want to be wearing Dragon Skin&quot; is a near-direct quote.
There IS something crazy going on here!  Why was DS dismissed, trashed, and banned by the military before it even tested it? </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I am not mistaken, the man that developed Interceptor, tested Dragon Skin,and called it “far superior” to his own vest.  “If I am getting shot at, I want to be wearing Dragon Skin” is a near-direct quote.<br
/> There IS something crazy going on here!  Why was DS dismissed, trashed, and banned by the military before it even tested it?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris Taggart</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/09/22/dragon-skin-proven-tough/comment-page-12/#comment-148716</link> <dc:creator>Chris Taggart</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:00:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3320#comment-148716</guid> <description>Bottom Line to all you Soldiers I am not allowed to say I am for or against Dragon Skin....&quot;I CANNOT&quot; I made my own...I tested it --It works fantastic and will be made Indestrutable soon...I can say -Chose what you think is better you feel more safer with...I will feel safer soon with MY new Armor...
LS Armor(Lorica Segmenta Armor)....That is what I will choose. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottom Line to all you Soldiers I am not allowed to say I am for or against Dragon Skin.…“I CANNOT” I made my own…I tested it –It works fantastic and will be made Indestrutable soon…I can say –Chose what you think is better you feel more safer with…I will feel safer soon with MY new Armor…<br
/> LS Armor(Lorica Segmenta Armor).…That is what I will choose.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MadMardegun87</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/09/22/dragon-skin-proven-tough/comment-page-12/#comment-148714</link> <dc:creator>MadMardegun87</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:03:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3320#comment-148714</guid> <description>Well in spite of all the pros an cons about Dragonskin the simple fact remains. Id rather my brothers wear a vest with kinks and flaws than wear no vest at all... And all this crap about our government sending our soldiers to die, yes they are and have bin doing so for hundreds of years, this blood is the price of our freedom and those who died knew this when they signed up for it so stop bitching about it like someone stole something from you. They knew the risk and paid the cost for our happiness through blood an sweat, and their death diserves a more honorable mention than some pety angry rant from someone who didnt get a fat enough check from Uncle Sam. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well in spite of all the pros an cons about Dragonskin the simple fact remains. Id rather my brothers wear a vest with kinks and flaws than wear no vest at all… And all this crap about our government sending our soldiers to die, yes they are and have bin doing so for hundreds of years, this blood is the price of our freedom and those who died knew this when they signed up for it so stop bitching about it like someone stole something from you. They knew the risk and paid the cost for our happiness through blood an sweat, and their death diserves a more honorable mention than some pety angry rant from someone who didnt get a fat enough check from Uncle Sam.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jack</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/09/22/dragon-skin-proven-tough/comment-page-12/#comment-148713</link> <dc:creator>jack</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 04:21:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3320#comment-148713</guid> <description>Dragon skin failed because the Army&#039;s tests because it can not be relied upon to protect from any level 3 threat if the armor is exposed to extreme temperatures or conditions. The fact is the armor will fail if it is transported or stored at common temperatures experienced by military equipment. If you are going to be using this armor for yourself in San Diego and will store it at room temperature in you house by all measures it is the best armor. But it is not fit for military use.
PS: Dirka Blaze, you are not only misinformed but you aren&#039;t failing to look at the bigger picture as well. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dragon skin failed because the Army’s tests because it can not be relied upon to protect from any level 3 threat if the armor is exposed to extreme temperatures or conditions. The fact is the armor will fail if it is transported or stored at common temperatures experienced by military equipment. If you are going to be using this armor for yourself in San Diego and will store it at room temperature in you house by all measures it is the best armor. But it is not fit for military use.<br
/> PS: Dirka Blaze, you are not only misinformed but you aren’t failing to look at the bigger picture as well.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ur gay</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/09/22/dragon-skin-proven-tough/comment-page-12/#comment-148710</link> <dc:creator>ur gay</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:33:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3320#comment-148710</guid> <description>ur all fuking gay with men and u like to lik ur dogs weiner and ballsak </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ur all fuking gay with men and u like to lik ur dogs weiner and ballsak</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nick</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/09/22/dragon-skin-proven-tough/comment-page-12/#comment-148709</link> <dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:30:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3320#comment-148709</guid> <description>It appears that dragon skin is the best possible protection in an environment devoid of Heat swings and Oil and Diesel immersion
http://www.militarytimes.com/static/projects/pages/dragon_skin_release_000121may07.pdf
This my friends, however, is not the desert. Id have to say that id trust Interceptor over SOV in the desert but in any normal urban environment devoid of extreme temperature shifts id go with Dragon skin. The truth appears to be simply this..
The armor is not suited for the desert, and it costs too much anyway. Its hard to replace damaged suits.
Pinnacle is working on a level Five armor but it most likely will suffer from the same problems. If dragon skin is to make it to the front line it would need to be desert, alpine, and snow worthy.
Id trust  this jacket with my life if i was a swat team member but not in Iraq, not until the design kinks are worked out. Thats all. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that dragon skin is the best possible protection in an environment devoid of Heat swings and Oil and Diesel immersion<br
/> <a
href="http://www.militarytimes.com/static/projects/pages/dragon_skin_release_000121may07.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.militarytimes.com/static/projects/pages/dragon_skin_release_000121may07.pdf</a><br
/> This my friends, however, is not the desert. Id have to say that id trust Interceptor over SOV in the desert but in any normal urban environment devoid of extreme temperature shifts id go with Dragon skin. The truth appears to be simply this..<br
/> The armor is not suited for the desert, and it costs too much anyway. Its hard to replace damaged suits.<br
/> Pinnacle is working on a level Five armor but it most likely will suffer from the same problems. If dragon skin is to make it to the front line it would need to be desert, alpine, and snow worthy.<br
/> Id trust  this jacket with my life if i was a swat team member but not in Iraq, not until the design kinks are worked out. Thats all.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nick</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/09/22/dragon-skin-proven-tough/comment-page-12/#comment-148708</link> <dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:19:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3320#comment-148708</guid> <description>Kaltes I absolutely AGREE with you. BUT, why the ban on soldiers buying it for themselves. It would be hard as hell to replace the armor for the Marines and ARMY single handedly but if every troop was allowed to purchase why shouldnt they. What i dont understand is the active ban on dragon skin Products. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaltes I absolutely AGREE with you. BUT, why the ban on soldiers buying it for themselves. It would be hard as hell to replace the armor for the Marines and ARMY single handedly but if every troop was allowed to purchase why shouldnt they. What i dont understand is the active ban on dragon skin Products.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John Ryan</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/09/22/dragon-skin-proven-tough/comment-page-12/#comment-148707</link> <dc:creator>John Ryan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:37:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3320#comment-148707</guid> <description>I&#039;ve always thought, that if I, or someone was to come up with a product that was a substantial   improvement over an existing system that was in widespread use. I figure there would be tremendous resistance from certain individuals and organizations that had deep financial interests as well as political and corporate connections that would go out of their way to protect their interests no matter what the costs.
This is the unfortunate reality of mankind that should be fully expected by anyone planning to launch a new and improved product that can step on the financial toes of big US defense contractors.
When I saw the DS system being demonstrated on TV I was extremely impressed and thought ,the guy that invented that is going to get a snout full of trouble. I do hope for the sake of the troops that he has skin as thick as a dragon&#039;s. He&#039;s going to need it. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve always thought, that if I, or someone was to come up with a product that was a substantial   improvement over an existing system that was in widespread use. I figure there would be tremendous resistance from certain individuals and organizations that had deep financial interests as well as political and corporate connections that would go out of their way to protect their interests no matter what the costs.<br
/> This is the unfortunate reality of mankind that should be fully expected by anyone planning to launch a new and improved product that can step on the financial toes of big US defense contractors.<br
/> When I saw the DS system being demonstrated on TV I was extremely impressed and thought ‚the guy that invented that is going to get a snout full of trouble. I do hope for the sake of the troops that he has skin as thick as a dragon’s. He’s going to need it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: LCPL</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/09/22/dragon-skin-proven-tough/comment-page-12/#comment-148706</link> <dc:creator>LCPL</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:44:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3320#comment-148706</guid> <description>Lemme say something. I am a marine, stationed in Iraq, I am an 0311 rifleman. I hate the flaks we have now with a passion. Ive heard of the problems with the armor in the heat... I hope they would fix it soon. The flaks we wear, are heavy, they destroy your shoulders, eat your hips, bulky, you cant move in it, and god help you if you fall on your back... ever seen a turtle on its back...same thing... personally i wouldnt give two **** if we wore any body armor at all. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lemme say something. I am a marine, stationed in Iraq, I am an 0311 rifleman. I hate the flaks we have now with a passion. Ive heard of the problems with the armor in the heat… I hope they would fix it soon. The flaks we wear, are heavy, they destroy your shoulders, eat your hips, bulky, you cant move in it, and god help you if you fall on your back… ever seen a turtle on its back…same thing… personally i wouldnt give two **** if we wore any body armor at all.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: patriot</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/09/22/dragon-skin-proven-tough/comment-page-12/#comment-148702</link> <dc:creator>patriot</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:21:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3320#comment-148702</guid> <description>again, take a look at SFTT.org, apparently ARL, in Maryland tested two DS vests about 3 weeks ago. These tests followed FAT protocol for a &quot;high temp&quot; test.  The number of shot and placement of the shots for these vests actually exceeded ESAPI specification.  It is probably also noteworthy to mention that every single round was defeated, and yes they did use 7.62 x63mm AP2 rounds. The Army is going to have a lot of explaining to do.  See the following link for more specifics on this story:
http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=Unlisted%202007%2edb&amp;command=viewone&amp;id=33 </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>again, take a look at SFTT.org, apparently ARL, in Maryland tested two DS vests about 3 weeks ago. These tests followed FAT protocol for a “high temp” test.  The number of shot and placement of the shots for these vests actually exceeded ESAPI specification.  It is probably also noteworthy to mention that every single round was defeated, and yes they did use 7.62 x63mm AP2 rounds. The Army is going to have a lot of explaining to do.  See the following link for more specifics on this story:<br
/> <a
href="http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=Unlisted%202007%2edb&#038;command=viewone&#038;id=33" rel="nofollow">http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=Unlisted%202007%2edb&amp;command=viewone&amp;id=33</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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