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Home » Rapid Fire » Rapid Fire 10/​04/​06

Rapid Fire 10/​04/​06

* Nork nukes loom
* Afghanistan’s tat man
* “Marines in the Garden of Eden“
* Magnetic space launch
(back­ground here)
* $20M for vic­tory party
* DJs vs. Taliban
* Rocket monop­oly approved
* DC spy­cams: use­less
* Army’s vehi­cle fleet resets
* Lehman spooked by China’s navy
* Nuke lab brain drain
* Icky potato salad (watch ’til the end)
* MVP goes 5-​​for-​​5

(Big ups: EH, RC, JQP, MA, WH)

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  1. Timmy Mac says:
    October 4, 2006 at 8:29 am

    Wait a minute…Jermaine Dye went 5 for 5? Where?

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  2. Robot.Economist says:
    October 4, 2006 at 9:50 am

    I can’t believe Secretary Lehman is still whin­ning about not get­ting a 600 ship navy. The Navy itself only wants a 313 ship fleet and the CBO demon­strated that is their sus­tain­able limit.
    If the U.S. can’t finan­cially field a fleet of 600, what makes him think China can do the same with its tiny bud­get? Maybe if they churned out vin­tage 1970s cruis­ers for 20 years and didn’t retire any of them. And since when does a fleet of three Kilos con­sti­tute a “very good” sub fleet? Seriously, this guy could use a lit­tle per­spec­tive.
    As for the rocket monop­oly arti­cle, I think it is impor­tant empha­size how the ULA merger effec­tively allows the DOD to do an end-​​run around fed­eral com­pet­i­tive bid­ding require­ments. Now it can have both Delta and Titan rock­ets with­out hav­ing to jus­tify the added expense to the public.

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  3. bespoke says:
    October 4, 2006 at 5:09 pm

    While Lehman needs to lay off the his 600 ship navy from 25 years ago, he does have a point that by build­ing 5 ships a year, assum­ing a 30 year lifes­pan for most ships, we’ll be down to a 150 ship navy.
    As for the Chinese, it won’t be nearly as expen­sive for them to build up their navy. According to this RAND study I found — “Why Has the Cost of
    Navy Ships Risen?” (http://​www​.rand​.org/​p​u​b​s​/​m​o​n​o​g​r​a​p​h​s​/​2​0​0​6​/​R​A​N​D​_​M​G​4​8​4​.​pdf) — the labor cost of a ship is a huge amount:
    Ship Type Labor % of End Cost
    Nuclear air­craft car­rier 51
    Amphibious ship 47
    Attack sub­ma­rine 39
    Surface com­bat­ant 32
    Obviously, Chinese labor costs are nowhere near ours, so that is in their favor.
    Even if a Chinese destroyer may be 10–20 years behind in terms of tech­nol­ogy, they could have 2–3 DDs of 1980’s tech­nol­ogy for every 2010 DD we have, and 1980’s naval tech­nol­ogy is noth­ing to sneeze at.

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  4. Byron Skinner says:
    October 5, 2006 at 12:59 pm

    Good Morning Folks,
    The Robot Economist is cor­rect the U.S. can’t afford a 600 ship Navy nor even a 313 ship Navy. For those of us who don’t believe a word that comes out of the DoD/​Pentagon and bother to count the Navy’s active ships list against retire­ments and new ship com­ming on line and bal­ance the num­bers the cur­rent size of the U.S. Navy is around 240 ships of all types. When you retire 10 ships and take deliv­ery of only 3 ships and Congress only orders 5 in the next cal­en­dar year you are not grow­ing.
    Facts, Los Angles Class Submarines are being retire faster then new Virginia Cass can be built, ex. the U.S.S. Plymouth was retired this year before even being refuled once…the Spruance Class Destroyers are gone but we are still build­ing DD-51…Perry Class frigates have been all but retired, they are on drug inter­dic­tion mis­sions off South America…the CG-​​51 Class of cruis­ers are being retired with­out a replacement…Katrina has delayed the deliv­ery of at least 11 ships by at least 2 years…the DD(X) if bought will be in small num­bers.
    The Navy has since 2004 drawn down over 50K per­sonal and is still shrink­ing.
    At the cur­rent rate of attri­tion the U.S. Navy will very soon cease to exist as a “Blue Water” force that can do the tra­di­tion Naval roles of keep­ing sea lanes open and insur­ing American access to the ports of the world.
    ALLONS,
    Byron Skinner

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