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Home » Bizarro » White Phosphorous vs. White Widow

White Phosphorous vs. White Widow

“Canadian troops fight­ing Taliban mil­i­tants in Afghanistan have stum­bled across an unex­pected and potent enemy — almost impen­e­tra­ble forests of mar­i­juana plants 10 feet tall.“
white-widow_p1.jpg“The chal­lenge is that mar­i­juana plants absorb energy, heat very read­ily. It’s very dif­fi­cult to pen­e­trate with ther­mal devices. … And as a result you really have to be care­ful that the Taliban don’t dodge in and out of those mar­i­juana forests,” General Rick Hillier said in a speech in Ottawa, Canada.
“We tried burn­ing them with white phos­pho­rous — it didn’t work. We tried burn­ing them with diesel — it didn’t work. The plants are so full of water right now … that we sim­ply couldn’t burn them,” he said.
Even suc­cess­ful incin­er­a­tion had its draw­backs.
“A cou­ple of brown plants on the edges of some of those [forests] did catch on fire. But a sec­tion of sol­diers that was down­wind from that had some ill effects and decided that was prob­a­bly not the right course of action,” Hiller said dryly.
One sol­dier told him later: “Sir, three years ago before I joined the army, I never thought I’d say ‘That damn marijuana’.”

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  1. mrnitropb says:
    October 12, 2006 at 11:20 pm

    Air strike? Wasn’t the daisy cut­ter more or less meant to level real for­rests? Sure its US, not canuk, buts i don’t see them “just say­ing NO” to a request like that. But still then, even if its all nicely plowed down, how to dis­pose of it effi­ciently with­out ‘ill effects’.
    Couldn’t you just drive a dozer through the field?
    Hmm, does nbc mask stop mj effects?

    Reply
  2. Draq Wraith says:
    October 13, 2006 at 1:15 am

    Trick one is to find a bug that loves the plant intro­duce it to the area and give it some time to work.
    Trick two find a botanist give him some time for a solution.

    Reply
  3. mrnitropb says:
    October 13, 2006 at 1:48 am

    yeah, because intro­duc­ing foriegn species has always worked well in the pass…

    Reply
  4. Vashti Feisal Ghazi Feisal says:
    October 13, 2006 at 3:47 am

    It has taken Afghanistan 25 years to cul­ti­vate a ground cover that resists ero­sion, “tells” of weapons being in the area, and a nat­ural water source for such a desert region. The United States has no legal right to dam­age or destroy any crops of any nation! That is a vio­la­tion of the Geneva con­ven­tion to destroy locally grown crops and livestock.

    Reply
  5. Wembley says:
    October 13, 2006 at 4:57 am

    Agent Orange did a pretty good job last time.…didn’t it?
    Let’s think it through first this time.

    Reply
  6. binaryhero says:
    October 13, 2006 at 5:12 am

    Why don’t we just ship a load of pot-​​heads over there. Offer them free weed and thou­sands of peo­ple would jump at the chance and they would get through it in no time.
    And yes, a NBC mask will stop the smoke.

    Reply
  7. Wilson says:
    October 13, 2006 at 8:40 am

    Harvest it and sell it to off­set the O&M shorfalls.…

    Reply
  8. Will says:
    October 13, 2006 at 11:25 am

    “It has taken Afghanistan 25 years to cul­ti­vate a ground cover that resists ero­sion, “tells” of weapons being in the area, and a nat­ural water source for such a desert region. The United States has no legal right to dam­age or destroy any crops of any nation! That is a vio­la­tion of the Geneva con­ven­tion to destroy locally grown crops and live­stock.“
    Sorry, when the bad guys are hid­ing a field of “crops” that can be replanted, and regrow there is no rea­son not to destroy the crops, to uncover the bad guys. Then when the bad guys are all dead, or stop blow­ing up inno­cent peo­ple then the reg­u­lar peo­ple of Afganistan can go back to farming.

    Reply
  9. mrnitropb says:
    October 13, 2006 at 11:38 am

    But what about the Canuk troops? Can THEY scorche teh earth, duu­ude? Since they’re the mil­i­tary forces mentioned?

    Reply
  10. MD says:
    October 13, 2006 at 12:13 pm

    Glycophosphate (agri­cul­tural “Round Up”) and Bronc max are read­illy used in my area for prepar­ing farm­land before plant­ing.
    Takes about a week to kill the plants, then burn up the field. It does not ster­il­ize the soil.
    You can even mix it with water that is not potable.

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  11. Karin says:
    October 13, 2006 at 11:58 pm

    “Sorry, when the bad guys are hid­ing a field of ‘crops’ that can be replanted, and regrow there is no rea­son not to destroy the crops, to uncover the bad guys. Then when the bad guys are all dead, or stop blow­ing up inno­cent peo­ple then the reg­u­lar peo­ple of Afganistan can go back to farm­ing.“
    Is this an actual war you’re describ­ing? Or one you play with legos in your liv­ing room?

    Reply
  12. Peter Brazil Nut says:
    October 14, 2006 at 11:42 am

    Just nuke the whold damned coun­try! Thats what i’d do ;)

    Reply
  13. Mikey says:
    October 14, 2006 at 2:04 pm

    Yeah! Destroying farmer’s crops is the way to win hearts and minds.
    My coun­try tis of the
    sweet land of stupidity.

    Reply
  14. John P. Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret) says:
    October 14, 2006 at 8:11 pm

    Some of these com­ments sound like they came from Dopers or some so called Arm Chair General (Military Gamer) who has never been on the receiv­ing end of a bul­let shot by a REAL bad guy. I have and its not very fun. If they’re so smart (or intelliegent(Ha! Ha!)) why don’t they enlist in the mil­i­tary so our troops can learn from them.
    All my brother and sis­ter in harms way, you are in my thoughts and prayers every day.

    Reply
  15. Clifton Mitchell says:
    October 15, 2006 at 8:43 am

    Before the US mil­i­tary “lib­er­ated” Afghanistan, the Taliban had vir­tu­ally elim­i­nated opium poppy pro­duc­tion there. Perhaps the real mis­sion of the US mil­i­tary is to ensure a resur­gence of opium pro­duc­tion in Afghanistan for dis­tri­b­u­tion and con­sump­tion in the US. The US gov­ern­ment ben­e­fits in 2 ways by pro­tect­ing the bur­geon­ing opium busi­ness in Afghanistan — 1st, there’s bil­lions of dol­lars to be made by the crim­i­nal ele­ment in American soci­ety (many of whom are polit­i­cans at the fed­eral level), and 2nd, spaced out Americans are much eas­ier for big brother to con­trol. It’s a bloody shame that American sol­diers are fight­ing and dying in the “Opium War”.

    Reply
  16. Keath says:
    October 15, 2006 at 9:38 am

    It’s simple…locate enemy, drop MOAB, vapor­ize the hip­pies with their weed, pro­tect US troops, repeat often.

    Reply
  17. t davis says:
    October 16, 2006 at 5:29 pm

    Hey jpw grow­ing pot you can con­ceal on rocks so the heat from the rocks dis­torts the sig­na­ture at night when the cops look for it​.So reverse effect at night the vehi­cle blocks and bod­ies will be cooler than the dope,you pick up the lack of heat and toast the bad guys..This will save the crops so you dont get in a polit­i­cal pisser but effec­tivly deter the smucks. sem­per fi

    Reply
  18. john says:
    October 30, 2006 at 10:18 am

    smoke weed everyday

    Reply
  19. fluxtatic says:
    January 16, 2007 at 6:01 pm

    I can’t believe this crap…You want to get rid of a green (as in wet) field of plants (regard­less of legal­ity?) Of course diesel and phos­pho­rus didn’t work. If it’s all that impor­tant, call in napalm strikes. Also, you flag-​​wavers, this aren’t, for the most part, ‘dop­ers’ cul­ti­vat­ing. These are dirt-​​poor farm­ers that are smart enough to rec­og­nize that they can grow 1 acre of pot (or opium, for that mat­ter) and make the same money that they would grow­ing 10–20 acres of some­thing the US occu­py­ing force finds accept­able. Let me guess you ‘sol­diers’ are good con­ser­v­a­tives all around and ask you: what about free mar­kets? There is a mar­ket, and if there wasn’t, the cul­ti­va­tion would stop. Maybe the US should have made sure the job was ‘done’ in Afghanistan before it bailed and left the cit­i­zenry to fend for itself. And by bailed I don’t mean left, I mean that the forces left aren’t (obvi­ously) enough to get the job done, if patches of mar­i­juana are really such an issue.

    Reply
  20. budlung07 says:
    January 27, 2007 at 10:31 pm

    I wish I would have been there when they burnt it all up!!!!!!!

    Reply
  21. yoko says:
    May 21, 2007 at 10:08 pm

    there are veen bet­ter led grow lights out there called fuz​z​lights​.com
    really cheap as well. cost less than 100 dolalrs per bulb
    http://​www​.fuz​z​light​.com

    Reply
  22. JAMAL says:
    June 7, 2007 at 1:20 pm

    OMG I WISH I COULD SMOKE ALL THAT WEED. P.S PLEASE SEND ME SOME

    Reply
  23. Daniela says:
    August 18, 2007 at 1:58 pm

    Yeah sure! Do you really think they burned them. They most likely pack­aged them and are sell­ing them now. Give me a break! Who wouldn’t do the same if they stumm­bled on a field of mar­i­juana. I like the last quote “that damn mar­i­juana” haha sureeeeeeeeeeeee…

    Reply
  24. Herb O'Africa says:
    March 20, 2008 at 6:56 am

    It’s a shame they can’t har­vest the for­est and have cross-​​cultural ses­sion. If the sol­diers from both sides came together and smoked the for­est, they’d become pas­sive and non-​​violent. The biggest risk here is the pos­si­ble lack of munchies

    Reply
  25. tim mcveigh jr. says:
    April 13, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    All this talk about “bad guys…“
    Tell me — just what does a “bad guy” look like?

    Reply
  26. rappelz rupees says:
    August 13, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    Three years ago, after friends intro­duced, I played the Rappelz game. At that time, I dazed and con­fused, I like to go my own way, I have a lot of rap­pelz rupees, but I became the most evil vil­lains in the game. Until I encoun­tered her, I found the mean­ing of survival.

    Reply
  27. ro zeny says:
    August 13, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    The friend took me to the game, but she own was leav­ing the game. A per­son to game is bor­ing, every day, I only know to upgrade and earn ro zeny. I can not sad dot this mess of feel­ings and mov­ing. Once, the two boys for me quar­reled utterly, until I leaved and tool sad. Later, I found a boy to mar­ried, I think per­haps all this to change, and I pray to become a real­ity, a few days after he dis­ap­peared. A per­son was play­ing a mar­riage num­ber, what would it have taken place.

    Reply
  28. White Widow FTW says:
    August 27, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    I laughed when read­ing this story :)
    However while read­ing the com­ments here this gets much more seri­ous, some peo­ple do not under­stand that this war in afghanistan is unjus­ti­fied… the whole point is that the US should not be there…
    Now if it was jus­ti­fied and the US army had to be there, then you still have to deal with all the legal geneva con­ven­tions issues of burn­ing crops and what not laws there might be, im not expert…
    But thats not the case…

    Reply
  29. john says:
    November 12, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    hell yeah white wid­ows the shit!!!!!!!

    Reply

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