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Home » Bomb Squad » WWI Mine-​​Mashers to Iraq

WWI Mine-​​Mashers to Iraq

The armed ser­vices are spend­ing bil­lions and bil­lions to fig­ure out fancy new ways to stop impro­vised explo­sive devices, or IEDs. But the lat­est trick is an oldie — dat­ing back to World War I — and couldn’t be less high tech.
ai011206a3.jpgThe con­trap­tions are called mine rollers — sets of wheels mounted in front of a vehi­cle, basi­cally. When they roll over a mine or a pressure-​​activated IED, the wheels trig­ger the bomb. Because the vehi­cle is some dis­tance behind the rollers, much of the bomb blast wave does not reach the vehi­cle, dra­mat­i­cally reduc­ing the dam­age. And the vehi­cle lives to see another day. The Marine Corps just bought 150 sets from General Dynamics, accord­ing to Defense Industry Daily.
This idea sounds glar­ingly obvi­ous. So you might won­der why it took the mil­i­tary more than 3 years to put the rollers up. In fact, the idea of a mine roller orig­i­nated in 1918, to help nascent tanks deal with the anti-​​tank mines of that era. Many of the ear­li­est IEDs in Iraq were built with anti-​​tank mines. Why didn’t any­body in the Army Engineer School, for instance, make the con­nec­tion?
Chalk some of it up to mil­i­tary bureau­cracy. When it comes to mine-​​clearance, com­bat engi­neers and explo­sive ord­nance dis­posal techs some­times have over­lap­ping lines of respon­si­bil­ity. (Which helps fuel an often-​​bitter rivalry.) At times, who exactly is sup­posed to develop bomb– and mine-​​fighting gear has been a blurry ques­tion, as well. The Counter-​​IED Task Force is now sup­posed to be in charge. But we’ll see.
There are sev­eral legit­i­mate con­cerns with the mine rollers that I am not going to men­tion here. However, my answer to these con­cerns are: If the insur­gents do that, it would make their IEDs more detectable. Moreover, the stand­off will inter­fere with aim­ing.
A friend and I were work­ing on a sim­i­lar con­cept, a Humvee roller attach­ment. However, we could not find a machin­ist to build our pro­to­type. Now that I am deployed, we could not con­tinue our com­mer­cial ven­ture. One fea­ture of our design was that it was tele­scop­ing, mean­ing that we can vary the dis­tance of the rollers to the vehi­cle. We can change the dis­tance to respond to changes in IED tac­tics. Maybe General Dynamics will incor­po­rate the fea­ture into their next run of mine rollers, too.
– Jimmy Wu

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  1. Sven Ortmann says:
    October 20, 2006 at 12:10 pm

    This is indeed old stuff, and not some of the most effec­tive.
    Most mine threat was from road­side bombs so far because you can­not eas­ily hide a pres­sure mine in con­crete roads and so on.
    This roller stuff does only help to some degree.
    Some mines don’t explode imme­di­ately or don’t explode on first pres­sure, so it’s only a lim­ited pro­tec­tion.
    Furthermore, it can eas­ily hap­pen that it did not cover parts of the street that fol­low­ing vehi­cles touch with their tires.
    I don’t expect that this pur­chase will be very effective…and the fact that it#s pur­chased from one of the large defense com­pa­nies insteaad of from some rather small work­shop com­pany means that it’s most likely over-​​priced and esko­rted by expen­sive marketing.

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  2. Bill says:
    October 21, 2006 at 1:40 am

    Maybe every­one needs to go for­ward a lit­tle bit in time. Say around 6 June 1944 and a British Officer, Major General Percy C.S. Hobart. He designed equip­ment that actu­ally worked. They were called Hobart’s Funnies.
    What worked then may be able to be adapted here.
    As ridicu­lous as it sounds check out movies, often as not if you see a piece of equip­ment in a movie that isn’t actu­ally real, in most cases it’s not far off. The DOD was sup­pos­edly check­ing with movie stu­dios, direc­tors and pro­duc­ers on dif­fer­ent ter­ror­ist plots, why not check with F/​X guys on their take. More things have come out of the imag­i­na­tions of hol­ly­wood than some think!

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  3. jjdeepsea says:
    October 22, 2006 at 1:03 am

    How about a heav­ily rein­forced stel remote con­trolled vehi­cle some­thing like a steam roller?
    These could be in diffrent con­fig­u­ra­tions. Rather than risk­ing a mans‘ life dif­fus­ing a device they could be delib­er­at­ley used to set mines off.

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  4. Stormhawk says:
    October 23, 2006 at 4:06 pm

    I was just at the RC and hobby show here in Chicago. Why not just RC an SUV, load it with bags of sand, con­crete, what­ever to equal the load to a Humvie’s, put rollers on the front, and send it in advance of all the con­voys? With the cam­era remotes we have now-​​a-​​days, the dri­ver needn’t be all that close to the bait car. With the seized rust­buck­ets that are over in the impound yards, shouldn’t cost too much. We also need more night patrols and sur­veil­lance. Catch the bug­gers while they’re plant­ing and open up on them. We have the night equip­ment, let’s use it. When they switch to day work, increase the use of in place mon­i­tors and cheap UAVs (once again, see RC planes). Put some of those out of work lads to work putting up the poles and lets start putting up cam­eras. Make it a shoot on site offense to dam­age one, per­haps. Finally, where we don’t con­trol, I have no prob­lem with bring­ing in another oldie but goodie, any­one remem­ber Puff the Magic Dragon (DC 3 with Gattlings)?
    We will never win their hearts, let’s face that. Better that they fear us then.

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  5. David Pompili says:
    November 3, 2006 at 12:24 pm

    Operation Desert sweep 91–93 had many effec­tive inno­va­tions abri­cated by eod­wsi rollers plungers etc. seems noone is pay­ing atten­tion to what was already effec­tively used.I have plenty of pic­tures of these devices made under my supervision.

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  6. whyte says:
    June 16, 2007 at 5:23 am

    My firm has already devel­oped and sold such a retractable frontal hydraulic arm to the Greek Government

    Reply
  7. stephen russell says:
    December 29, 2007 at 12:04 am

    Like the WW2 D Day Tank the Funny with those spin­ning chains fwd of tank to det­o­nate mines– revive those & this sys­tem alone.
    Send over 400 units to the Army & Marines & test in the National Guard units.
    Must have.
    & or have as Remote Control Drone Ground.
    Nice.

    Reply
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