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Home » Axe in Iraq (and Elsewhere) » Disbanding the Iraqi Army … A Good Idea?

Disbanding the Iraqi Army … A Good Idea?

Reasonably well-​​led, ade­quately armed with light weapons and com­pe­tent in a stand-​​up fight, yet con­strained by inter­nal and exter­nal fac­tors, the 10th Division is typ­i­cal of Iraqi Army for­ma­tions — and its progress over the years par­al­lels that of non-​​police Iraqi forces in gen­eral. Since the total dis­band­ing of the Iraqi Army in 2003, coali­tion train­ers have painstak­ingly recruited and trained up more than 129,000 Iraqi troops in 10 divi­sions, slowly trans­form­ing a slouch­ing mob into an army that, by regional stan­dards, isn’t half bad.

178564593_352eef11c7.jpgSo begins my pro­file of the Basra–based Iraqi Army 10th Division over at Military​.com. Between the lines is this con­tro­ver­sial claim: that the total dis­band­ing of the Iraqi Army in the wake of their 2003 defeat wasn’t the crit­i­cal fail­ure that oth­ers have claimed.
The best treat­ment of this debate remains Michael Gordon’s 2004 piece in The New York Times, in which he calls the deci­sion to dis­band “one of the most con­tentious issues of the post-​​war.”

Mr. [Walter] Slocombe [an aide to Paul Bremer] argues that the move was nec­es­sary to estab­lish an Iraqi mil­i­tary that was not tainted by cor­rup­tion and was accept­able to eth­nic groups that had long been repressed by Saddam Hussein’s mil­i­tary. He also says that it was the only pos­si­ble course because so many Iraqi sol­diers had fled their posts and drifted back into the pop­u­la­tion and mil­i­tary bases had been picked clean by looters.

I agree. These days, the Iraqi Army is our best ally in the fight against insur­gents, crim­i­nals and ter­ror­ists in Iraq. The army is only this good because they’re not the army we defeated in 2003.
(The Army’s coun­ter­parts in the police force are very nearly insur­gents them­selves, they’re so cor­rupt and inept. Note that the police force never got dis­banded and rebuilt the way the army did.)
On the other hand, the time it took to rebuild the Iraqi Army was a win­dow for the insur­gency to gain strength. And, as Gordon explains, the move had a moral effect:

“It was absolutely the wrong deci­sion,” said Col. Paul Hughes of the Army, who served as an aide to Jay Garner, a retired three-​​star gen­eral and the first civil­ian admin­is­tra­tor of Iraq. “We changed from being a lib­er­a­tor to an occu­pier with that sin­gle deci­sion,” he said. “By abol­ish­ing the army, we destroyed in the Iraqi mind the last sym­bol of sov­er­eignty they could rec­og­nize and as a result cre­ated a sig­nif­i­cant part of the resistance.”

I see Hughes’ point, but I remain con­vinced that dis­band­ing the Iraqi Army was the only way to ever have a good Iraqi Army.
What do you think?
–David Axe

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  1. Roger Tipton says:
    November 2, 2006 at 10:21 pm

    I beleive that those that would have retained the pre­vi­ous Iraqi Army have no con­cept of the dam­age that would fol­lowed when the Shia major­ity tried to con­trol a Sunni army. Convenience is not always smart.

    Reply
  2. Noah (the other one) says:
    November 2, 2006 at 10:52 pm

    You can’t say for sure what would have been bet­ter, but the results of dis­band­ing the Iraqi army have been less than dis­heart­en­ing: loot­ing of the entire coun­try from muse­ums to ammu­ni­tion depots; respon­si­bil­ity for secu­rity trans­ferred com­pletely to the U.S.; unem­ployed, dis­grun­tled and fully trained sol­diers who were in effect encour­aged to insur­gen­cies, etc.
    The remarks on cor­rpution are laugh­able when com­pared to the bil­lions thrown to no-​​bid con­tracts, secu­rity con­trac­tors, $1,000 a day mer­ce­nar­ies, not to men­tion the bil­lions that have lit­er­ally evap­o­rated with­out a trace. I won’t even get started on multi-​​year record prof­its for oil com­pa­nies and defense con­trac­tors …
    Finally, cor­rup­tion is rel­a­tive. One culture’s cor­rup­tion is another’s busi­ness stan­dard. Think about top gov­ern­ment offi­cials who came straight from cor­po­ra­tions with large gov­ern­ment con­tracts and who will move into lucra­tive lob­by­ing careers as soon as their terms of office are over.
    What about the stu­pen­dous amount of money spent on elec­tions — why would any­one spend mil­lions to get elected to a job that pays $150,000?

    Reply
  3. mike says:
    November 3, 2006 at 12:27 am

    We didn’t need to dis­band the entire army in order to reform and rebuild it.

    Reply
  4. Cannoneer No. 4 says:
    November 3, 2006 at 6:17 am

    It took ten years to denaz­ify the Wehrmacht and field the Bundeswehr under NATO. Very few senior offi­cers of Saddam’s armed forces could have passed a back­ground check.
    Didn’t Saddam’s army demo­bi­lize itself, and the gripe is that Garner and Bremer let them go instead of try­ing to remuster it? What use would they have been?
    The Republican Guard and Fedayeen Saddam planned all along to run away and fight again another day

    Reply
  5. mike says:
    November 3, 2006 at 8:32 am

    Whether the Iraqi army sucks or not is pretty much irrel­e­vant if there’s no author­ity (either a func­tion­ing Iraqi gov’t or the US mil­i­tary) to direct them. If that author­ity goes away, you’ll see indi­vid­ual Iraqi army units join­ing up with whichever mili­tia is most convenient.

    Reply
  6. Steve Weintz says:
    November 3, 2006 at 8:42 am

    The dis­band­ing of the Iraqi Army, like every­thing else in this hor­ren­dous folly, could have gone much bet­ter but for the per­va­sive con­tempt and blind vision of this Administration. The Oz-​​like life in the Green Zone and the empha­sis on ide­o­log­i­cal purity in select­ing CPA per­son­nel were symp­to­matic of a larger prob­lem of disdain.

    Reply
  7. Andrew says:
    November 3, 2006 at 9:19 am

    Col. Huges’ con­tention has merit, how­ever the deci­sion to dis­band the Army was a good one for all the rea­sons men­tioned in the post. I think that the Iraqi psy­che would have recov­ered, or at least would have been no worse off.
    The real fail­ure, and one most often over­looked, is the deci­sion on how to pro­ceed with re-​​constituting the Army. Emphasis was placed on num­bers at the expense of train­ing time, unit cohe­sion, and good lead­er­ship. In effect, quan­tity over quality.

    Reply
  8. Chris says:
    November 3, 2006 at 11:33 am

    The dev­as­tat­ing con­se­quence of sud­denly dis­band­ing the army was not that Iraq sud­denly had no army — it was that the men who had been in the army sud­denly had no paycheck.

    Reply
  9. Byron Skinner says:
    November 3, 2006 at 1:19 pm

    Good Morning Folks,
    One point over looked here and it might end up being the major rea­son why dis­band­ing the Iraqi Army by Bremmer in 2003 was such a colos­sal blun­der was that it pro­vided the mony, cadre and early foot sol­diers for what became the insur­gents.
    It is no secret that most of the rank­ing mem­bers of Saddam,s mil­i­tary were/​are Sunni Baathists, they were the ones in charge who overnight found them­selves on the outs. Al Zarqawi and his embryo ter­ror­ist orga­ni­za­tion man­aged to form an unatural rela­tion­ship under the ban­ner of get­ting the U.S. with these folks. The rest of this story is writen in U.S. blood.
    To quote Gen. Tommy Frank: “Paul Bremmer is the­dumbists sin of a bit** who was ever born.” History is show­ing that this not to bright him­self General was on the money.
    ALLONS,
    Byron Skinner

    Reply
  10. Robot.Economist says:
    November 3, 2006 at 2:46 pm

    If I were Garner and Bremmer, I prob­a­bly would have dis­banded Saddam’s army as well. The orga­ni­za­tion was sim­ply too cor­rupt to keep and would have prob­a­bly fallen apart over the fol­low­ing year or two.
    For me, the crit­i­cal ques­tion is how the CPA went about dis­band­ing the Iraqi army. My impres­sion is that Bremmer and the mil­i­tary sim­ply told the Iraqi troops to go home. I bet if they had taken the time to effec­tively demo­bi­lize Saddam’s army (i.e. full UN-​​style dis­ar­ma­ment, demo­bi­liza­tion and rein­te­gra­tion pro­gram), things would have turned out dif­fer­ently.
    DD&R is a crit­i­cal process. If you muck it up, it some­times takes decades to reverse the dam­age. It seems like we didn’t try very hard to col­lect or buy back the Iraqi army’s weapons when the dis­band­ing order went out.

    Reply
  11. NJSoldier says:
    November 3, 2006 at 3:37 pm

    I saw the Iraqi Army first­hand in 1991. There were really two armies. The Iraqi reg­u­lars were worse than any army I could have imag­ined. Poor equip­ment, zero dis­ci­pline, ter­ri­ble train­ing, hor­ri­ble lead­er­ship, no will to fight at all. They basi­cally dis­banded them­selves in 1991 and again in 2003

    Reply
  12. C-Low says:
    November 3, 2006 at 4:06 pm

    I would agree with you Axe
    I think dis­band­ing the Iraqi mil­i­tary did end the short­erm answer but it was nesse­cary to do to prove to the Shia/​Kurds that this time we actu­ally had good intent unlike 91′.
    The Kurds/​Shia are the major­ity of Iraq by far 80%+ so if Democracy or even some­thing close to it was the goal dis­man­tling the IA was crit­i­cal.
    The Iraqi Army is get­ting real close to were they need to be. It takes time to train a offi­cer core some­thing only Sunni were allowed to learn in the old Dictatorship Iraq. People often for­get that before the Mullahs over­ran Iran the Shia were a very mod­er­ate form of Islam that was a strong ally. They can be such again if we don’t lose heart.

    Reply
  13. ohwilleke says:
    November 3, 2006 at 5:05 pm

    In man­age­ment books, they dis­cuss the “hon­ey­moon period” as key to estab­lish­ing your author­ity. People give you the ben­e­fit of the doubt for brief period after a change in lead­er­ship, and the prece­dents you set then while color your entire tenure, even if your ini­tial mis­takes are ulti­mately cor­rected.
    The U.S. mil­i­tary failed to heed this les­son, by not tak­ing the loot­ing and dis­or­der that took place in the early days after the inva­sion seri­ously. What mat­tered was not so much the actual dam­age done in those few days, as the prece­dent that it set that anar­chy would be tol­er­ated under the new regime.
    Disbanding the Iraqi Army could have been a good deci­sion, if the Coalition had suf­fi­cient forces com­mit­ted in impose real law and order until it was replaced. Military plan­ners had rec­om­mended a force in the 400,000–500,000 troop range for this very pur­pose.
    Another deci­sion which in hind­sight was very dam­ag­ing was the man­ner in which the Iraqi Army was dis­banded. Idle hands are the Devil’s tools. A bet­ter choice would have been to dis­arm the Iraqi Army, to have con­tin­ued to pay them and honor the Iraqi nation’s finan­cial oblig­a­tions to them, and to put them to work rebuild­ing the coun­try, which would have helped the less polit­i­cal peo­ple in their ranks buy into the occupation.

    Reply
  14. Dave Burkitt says:
    November 4, 2006 at 7:46 am

    Disbanding the old Iraqi Army was also a way to have a GOOD insur­gency. All those battle-​​wise offi­cers and NCOs and vet­er­ans of the 8-​​year war with Iran, humil­i­ated and job­less, were able to con­struct a first-​​rate urban gur­rilla force.

    Reply
  15. Barry O'Connell says:
    November 4, 2006 at 11:07 pm

    At this point I think we need to embrace our Iranian broth­ers and jointly back the Shiite mili­tias. The surest road to peace is through Iranian and US coop­er­a­tion.
    Best wishes,
    Barry O’Connell

    Reply
  16. zak822 says:
    November 6, 2006 at 11:26 am

    “The Iraqi Army is get­ting real close to were they need to be.“
    All is going well in Iraq. All we need is time.
    How much time are you will­ing to give? I ask in all seri­ous­ness. Are the war sup­port­ers here will­ing to give it 5 years, 7 years? How long?
    And, given the prob­lems with recruit­ment, real prob­lems that were only over­come by rais­ing the age limit twice and offer­ing fat bonus’s, can our vol­un­teer Army sus­tain a 5 year com­mit­ment in Iraq, plus Afghanistan?

    Reply
  17. Paul says:
    March 9, 2007 at 1:18 pm

    I for one think dis­band­ing the Iraqi army was a huge mis­take. However, it pales in com­par­i­son to send­ing in too few troops to pro­vide secu­rity for the gen­eral pop­u­la­tion.
    Lack of secu­rity means recon­struc­tion can’t progress as it should. Lack of progress and lack of secu­rity trans­lates into lack of con­fi­dence in both the U.S. and Iraqi secu­rity forces. It would be the same in any coun­try.
    Joint U.S./Iraqi Army patrols, under mar­tial law, should have begun almost imme­di­ately after “major com­bat oper­a­tions” had ceased.
    A “cash for weapons” pro­gram could have put a lot of Iraqis on the prowl for weapons caches. Money spent on a pro­gram like that would have been a pit­tance com­pared to what we will pay for car­ing for the sol­diers and Marines who were wounded by those weapons.
    Police forces are not intended to pro­vide secu­rity against heav­ily armed mili­tias. The Iraqi police forces should have been pulled out, recon­sti­tuted, trained, and equipped. Then they could have been re-​​introduced grad­u­ally to hold areas that had been swept and cleared by the mil­i­tary. From that point, they could func­tion as the eyes and ears for secu­rity forces.
    All of this is just hot air now. The U.S. will not com­mit the troops needed to get the job done at this stage. It’s too late to revamp the police forces. It’s WAY too late for a “cash for weapons” pro­gram.
    The hope now is that the Iraqi army will be able to do what the American mil­i­tary was not allowed to do. Place your bets, gentlemen.

    Reply
  18. heath says:
    June 30, 2007 at 4:04 pm

    I absolutely believe this was the right thing to do in dis­band­ing the Iraqi Army, there would have been more cor­rup­tion then their cur­rently is. After speak­ing with hun­dreds of Iraqi’s, they seem to agree that if Saddams forces were left in charge, there would cur­rently be even greater casu­al­ties inside Iraq and on Coalition forces, sim­ply due to their own resent­ment of “los­ing the war” to the peo­ple you are now stand­ing beside try­ing to fight with in order to secure a coun­try that was basi­cally was just lost due to the Iraqi Armies inabil­ity, or lack or sup­port to fight the incom­ing coali­tion forces.
    I per­son­ally believe we did the right thing by dis­band­ing the Army, I think a greater prob­lem lies in not secur­ing the vast amount of arms caches found through­out Iraq that are cur­rently still being deployed around Iraq in order to inflict as many casu­al­ties as pos­si­ble in order to keep the media spew­ing “another deadly blast” day in and day out.
    The coali­tion forces could kill 300 known ter­ror­ist, but if ter­ror­ist man­age to blow up a mar­ket place of 30 peo­ple, the news still reads “300 Terrorist Killed as a Deadly Blast rips through a Market Place killing 30 Innocent“
    Despite the fact those 2 most likely have noth­ing to do with one another. But yet, thats what the media plays, and the view­ers have been forced to believe no good comes out of Iraq, regard­less of what happens.

    Reply
  19. Scott says:
    February 26, 2008 at 3:25 am

    The Iraqi army killed about 100,000 Shiites under Saddam. If it hadn’t been dis­banded would we have been able to get the major­ity Shiite par­ties on board towards elec­tions? If the Shiites had been unhappy with a US occu­pa­tion that kept the Sunni army in place and had started their own insur­gency would the Sunni army have been sent in to crack down? How in the world would you ever get all par­ties to par­tic­i­pate in elec­tions. With minor­ity Sunnis still mak­ing up the major­ity of the army includ­ing it’s expe­ri­enced offi­cers, how would you get them to stop think­ing about con­duct­ing a coup after the US draws down?
    My point is that there’s a whole lot of con­se­quences to not dis­band­ing the army which a lot of folk are not tak­ing into account.

    Reply
  20. Scott says:
    February 26, 2008 at 3:26 am

    The Iraqi army killed about 100,000 Shiites under Saddam. If it hadn’t been dis­banded would we have been able to get the major­ity Shiite par­ties on board towards elec­tions? If the Shiites had been unhappy with a US occu­pa­tion that kept the Sunni army in place and had started their own insur­gency would the Sunni army have been sent in to crack down? How in the world would you ever get all par­ties to par­tic­i­pate in elec­tions. With minor­ity Sunnis still mak­ing up the major­ity of the army includ­ing it’s expe­ri­enced offi­cers, how would you get them to stop think­ing about con­duct­ing a coup after the US draws down?
    My point is that there’s a whole lot of con­se­quences to not dis­band­ing the army which a lot of folk are not tak­ing into account.

    Reply
  21. dman says:
    June 23, 2008 at 2:26 am

    Disbanding the army was not a good Idea. The proper thing to do was to go after the offi­cers that com­mited crimes and take them out of the arm forces and reform the arm­forces. Over 100,000 iraqi sol­diers most were likely just ordi­nary peo­ple that got sucked in for many rea­sons so there was not need for total dis­band­ing when they would recruit from the same pop­u­la­tion group after­ward. What was needed was a transformation/​reformation and selec­tion process where sol­dier of good qual­i­ties would remain. This required reviews of of their records. Recruitment of other minori­ties into the arm forces would also be pri­ori­tised. There were many pos­i­tive ways to reform. One par­tial dis­band­ing where the top offi­cers were let go with their pen­sions intact. Shuffling of offi­cers to ensure that the pre­vi­ouse struc­ture is dimin­ished and retrain­ing. A new code of con­duct imple­mented and ensured by amer­i­can sol­diers and amer­i­can mil­i­tary police forces inte­grated into the Iraqi forces.

    Reply
  22. rehab program says:
    May 20, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    Excuse me. It had only one fault. It was kind of lousy.
    I am from Equatorial and too bad know English, please tell me right I wrote the fol­low­ing sen­tence: “Alcohol treat­ment infor­ma­tion regard­ing alco­holism, alco­hol with­drawal and alco­hol detox.Guide to alco­hol treat­ment alco­hol treat­ment news, rehab pho­tos, recov­ery arti­cles blogs more alco­hol treat­ment infor­ma­tion — hard drive crash? The.“
    Thank you very much :-( . Murphey.

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