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> <channel><title>Comments on: Pain Beam Not Easily Foiled</title> <atom:link href="http://defensetech.org/2006/12/29/pain-beam-not-easily-foiled/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/12/29/pain-beam-not-easily-foiled/</link> <description>The Future of the Military, Law Enforcement and National Security</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:06:09 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: john</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/12/29/pain-beam-not-easily-foiled/comment-page-1/#comment-153455</link> <dc:creator>john</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:10:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3322#comment-153455</guid> <description>KATSESAMA, even though you are (nothing personal, no, really!) delusional beyond comprehension in your trust in the benevolence of our government and the ability of the public and media to restrain its evil activities, in this case you are still by and large correct about the deployment of the ADS unit as reported. That big hummer is not going into the streets of America, and making the general population hop around in the field of its particularly nasty tune without a bunch of people knowing about it.
That is not the worrisome issue here. When the other person mentioned &quot;torture&quot;, did you or anyone else seriously envision the hummer pulling up at the back of a prison in some southern state and doing their evil in the public eye?
DARPA and the JNLWP have teamed up with the DOJ and with this, developed various applications of this technology with some pretty nasty variations. 95 Ghz at a lower power level than the unit in this article simply causes discomfort, and that over long periods of time is torture. They have handheld units being used by DOJ personnel in our communities right now, they call it &quot;surveillance&quot; and they use it to drive out &quot;undesirables&quot;, not convicted of any criminal activity, and it&#039;s perfectly  legal under Bush&#039;s new FBI guidelines for investigations.
Our government is full of bureaucrats that are out of control. Wake up, Pollyanna. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KATSESAMA, even though you are (nothing personal, no, really!) delusional beyond comprehension in your trust in the benevolence of our government and the ability of the public and media to restrain its evil activities, in this case you are still by and large correct about the deployment of the ADS unit as reported. That big hummer is not going into the streets of America, and making the general population hop around in the field of its particularly nasty tune without a bunch of people knowing about it.<br
/> That is not the worrisome issue here. When the other person mentioned “torture”, did you or anyone else seriously envision the hummer pulling up at the back of a prison in some southern state and doing their evil in the public eye?<br
/> DARPA and the JNLWP have teamed up with the DOJ and with this, developed various applications of this technology with some pretty nasty variations. 95 Ghz at a lower power level than the unit in this article simply causes discomfort, and that over long periods of time is torture. They have handheld units being used by DOJ personnel in our communities right now, they call it “surveillance” and they use it to drive out “undesirables”, not convicted of any criminal activity, and it’s perfectly  legal under Bush’s new FBI guidelines for investigations.<br
/> Our government is full of bureaucrats that are out of control. Wake up, Pollyanna.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ellend2</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/12/29/pain-beam-not-easily-foiled/comment-page-1/#comment-153454</link> <dc:creator>ellend2</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:03:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3322#comment-153454</guid> <description>Bush should be impeached.  The use of
these weapons on Americans is clearly
in violation of their constitutional
rights. (California, please note what
is being done to you on the cover of the
February issue of Popular Science 2007). </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush should be impeached.  The use of<br
/> these weapons on Americans is clearly<br
/> in violation of their constitutional<br
/> rights. (California, please note what<br
/> is being done to you on the cover of the<br
/> February issue of Popular Science 2007).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Randall Flagg</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/12/29/pain-beam-not-easily-foiled/comment-page-1/#comment-57459</link> <dc:creator>Randall Flagg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:03:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3322#comment-57459</guid> <description>Anybody who thinks this gadget won&#039;t be used on prisoners strapped to tables is living in a dreamworld. It is the perfect torture device. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody who thinks this gadget won’t be used on prisoners strapped to tables is living in a dreamworld. It is the perfect torture device.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dr. Love</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/12/29/pain-beam-not-easily-foiled/comment-page-1/#comment-153453</link> <dc:creator>Dr. Love</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:39:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3322#comment-153453</guid> <description>&quot;To clarify one concern, as I understand it running away would not make you a target for escalated force (like getting shot at); turning up in a tinfoil bodysuit might do.&quot;
I think this pretty much sums it up.  Unless you&#039;re in a large unruly crowd, I don&#039;t think you need worry about this system. It would seem less irritating than tear gas or a fire hose, and certainly less irritating than 7.62mm NATO. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“To clarify one concern, as I understand it running away would not make you a target for escalated force (like getting shot at); turning up in a tinfoil bodysuit might do.“<br
/> I think this pretty much sums it up.  Unless you’re in a large unruly crowd, I don’t think you need worry about this system. It would seem less irritating than tear gas or a fire hose, and certainly less irritating than 7.62mm NATO.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rayon</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/12/29/pain-beam-not-easily-foiled/comment-page-1/#comment-57456</link> <dc:creator>Rayon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 21:30:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3322#comment-57456</guid> <description>Those of you stupid enough to believe this weapon is not destined for use in domestic crowd control situations need to study history a tad more thoroughly.  This website might help.
http://www.gnn.tv/articles/2563/Rumsfeld_s_Guinea_Pigs </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of you stupid enough to believe this weapon is not destined for use in domestic crowd control situations need to study history a tad more thoroughly.  This website might help.<br
/> <a
href="http://www.gnn.tv/articles/2563/Rumsfeld_s_Guinea_Pigs" rel="nofollow">http://www.gnn.tv/articles/2563/Rumsfeld_s_Guinea_Pigs</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ivan Stojic</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/12/29/pain-beam-not-easily-foiled/comment-page-1/#comment-153451</link> <dc:creator>Ivan Stojic</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 19:10:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3322#comment-153451</guid> <description>A quote from the article: </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quote from the article:</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lee Femling</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/12/29/pain-beam-not-easily-foiled/comment-page-1/#comment-57454</link> <dc:creator>Lee Femling</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 17:29:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3322#comment-57454</guid> <description>Clearly any protection will have to be magnetic in nature </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly any protection will have to be magnetic in nature</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: KATSESAMA</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/12/29/pain-beam-not-easily-foiled/comment-page-1/#comment-153450</link> <dc:creator>KATSESAMA</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 05:10:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3322#comment-153450</guid> <description>Gentlemen,once again it is time
for good ol uncle KATSESAMA to chime in,
so brace yourselves for a sobering micro-wave
blast of truth.
the fact that noah is shareing information over
the net about ADS pretty much insures a well
informed public as to the reality of this tech.
Now,knowing this,how is it that still,some of you
out there think it could be used without our
consent,against us? In light of that its pretty
foolish to continue proping up theories of
government conspiracy where said government would
use ADS on the citizenry.
let me gently remind you all were you live.in a
free democratic,constitutional republic.not some
imaginary,big-brother,totalitarianistic regime as
some who have posted here in the past seem to so
ardently believe.any hint that tha administration
were going to utilize this weapon on the public
would more then likely be plastered over the net
faster then sadam&#039;s execution video.Thus quoshing
any contrarian fantasies of evil republican empire
and subjugation.
As far as it being inhumane? well,compared to what
the insurgant fanatics do to people to keep them
in line,its a gentle,feathery tickle by comparison
so lets not equate it so fast with torture,as those whom we would use this against utilize real
torture as a matter of fact way of doing bussiness
But,as iv&#039;e posted previously,those who believe
that were living in the modern day equivalent to
nazi germany will not be swayed because their too
wrapped up in their fantasies to understand that
for our nations enemies,it would be far better to
recieve what amounts to a severe sun-tan then a
marines well placed bullet.&#039;Nuff said. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gentlemen,once again it is time<br
/> for good ol uncle KATSESAMA to chime in,<br
/> so brace yourselves for a sobering micro-wave<br
/> blast of truth.<br
/> the fact that noah is shareing information over<br
/> the net about ADS pretty much insures a well<br
/> informed public as to the reality of this tech.<br
/> Now,knowing this,how is it that still,some of you<br
/> out there think it could be used without our<br
/> consent,against us? In light of that its pretty<br
/> foolish to continue proping up theories of<br
/> government conspiracy where said government would<br
/> use ADS on the citizenry.<br
/> let me gently remind you all were you live.in a<br
/> free democratic,constitutional republic.not some<br
/> imaginary,big-brother,totalitarianistic regime as<br
/> some who have posted here in the past seem to so<br
/> ardently believe.any hint that tha administration<br
/> were going to utilize this weapon on the public<br
/> would more then likely be plastered over the net<br
/> faster then sadam’s execution video.Thus quoshing<br
/> any contrarian fantasies of evil republican empire<br
/> and subjugation.<br
/> As far as it being inhumane? well,compared to what<br
/> the insurgant fanatics do to people to keep them<br
/> in line,its a gentle,feathery tickle by comparison<br
/> so lets not equate it so fast with torture,as those whom we would use this against utilize real<br
/> torture as a matter of fact way of doing bussiness<br
/> But,as iv’e posted previously,those who believe<br
/> that were living in the modern day equivalent to<br
/> nazi germany will not be swayed because their too<br
/> wrapped up in their fantasies to understand that<br
/> for our nations enemies,it would be far better to<br
/> recieve what amounts to a severe sun-tan then a<br
/> marines well placed bullet.‘Nuff said.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jeR</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/12/29/pain-beam-not-easily-foiled/comment-page-1/#comment-57452</link> <dc:creator>jeR</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:03:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3322#comment-57452</guid> <description>deal with it people. i did.
goodluck and take the blue pill. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deal with it people. i did.<br
/> goodluck and take the blue pill.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: G.L.W.</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2006/12/29/pain-beam-not-easily-foiled/comment-page-1/#comment-153449</link> <dc:creator>G.L.W.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2007 20:55:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3322#comment-153449</guid> <description>What bothers me is how effective the ADS could be if used on demonstrators and protesters at home in America. If it works so well, it will really discourage and possible make it very difficult for protesters who are essential in any democracy. Tear gas and rubber bullets are possible to tolerate to a degree but this thing seems too much like a sure fire disspersal tool to me. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What bothers me is how effective the ADS could be if used on demonstrators and protesters at home in America. If it works so well, it will really discourage and possible make it very difficult for protesters who are essential in any democracy. Tear gas and rubber bullets are possible to tolerate to a degree but this thing seems too much like a sure fire disspersal tool to me.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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