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Home » Strategery » The Speech: Sadr Bought Off? (Updated)

The Speech: Sadr Bought Off? (Updated)

040410_alsadr_vmed.vmedium.jpgHas Moktada Al-​​Sadr, the Shi’ite strong man, been bought off, some­how? This is just a the­ory, an intel­lec­tual exer­cise — not even a guess — based on the President’s speech.
Hear me out: A big part of Bush’s plan relies on Iraq’s cops. “18 Iraqi Army and National Police brigades [will be] com­mit­ted to” secur­ing Baghdad. And “these Iraqi forces will oper­ate from local police sta­tions” there. But last time I checked, these police units were largely fronts for thug­gish mili­tias like Sadr’s Mahdi Army. Also, the President talked about avoid­ing the “sec­tar­ian inter­fer­ence [that] pre­vented Iraqi and American forces from going into neigh­bor­hoods in Baghdad.” How is that inter­fer­ence being avoided, or run over? By buy­ing off its lead­er­ship, maybe?
UPDATE 01/​11/​06 10:50 AM: Or maybe not. “Iraq’s prime min­is­ter has told Shi’ite mili­ti­a­men to sur­ren­der their arms or face an all-​​out assault by U.S.-backed Iraqi forces, senior Iraqi offi­cials” tell the AP.
On the other hand, “An Army offi­cer who recently com­manded a bat­tal­ion in Baghdad pre­dicted [to the Washington Post] last night that the plan would fail because Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-​​Maliki and his gov­ern­ment ‘will do things to main­tain pro­tec­tion’ of Sadr’s forces.“
UPDATE 11:24 AM: “I would sug­gest that PM Nuri al-Maliki’s warn­ing to the Mahdi Militia to dis­arm or face the US mil­i­tary is in fact code,” Juan Cole says. “He is telling the Sadrists to lie low while the US mops up the Sunni Arab guer­ril­las. Sadr’s mili­tia became rel­a­tively qui­es­cent for a whole year after the Marines defeated it at Najaf in August, 2004. But since it is rooted in an enor­mous social move­ment, the mili­tia is fairly easy to recon­sti­tute after it goes into hid­ing.“
(Big ups: Nicholas Weaver, in the com­ments)
UPDATE 12:47 PM: Check out the weirdly ambigu­ous inter­change between a reporter and SecDef Gates today, cour­tesy of Inside Defense.

Q: Is the United States mil­i­tary and/​or the Iraqi gov­ern­ment pre­pared now to arrest or kill Muqtada al-​​Sadr as part of this new increase?…
SEC. GATES: I think a source of frus­tra­tion for both Iraqi and American forces in the past has been polit­i­cal inter­fer­ence dur­ing clear­ing oper­a­tions… I think one of the most impor­tant com­mit­ments that the prime min­is­ter has made is that in this offen­sive, the mil­i­tary will have the author­ity to go after all law break­ers. There are no excep­tions. I’m not going to hang spe­cific tar­gets on spe­cific peo­ple, but all law break­ers are sus­cep­ti­ble to being detained in this — or taken care of in this cam­paign.
Q: Sir, why are you vague on the treat­ment of al-​​Sadr? Because he has a long his­tory here in this con­flict as being on the most-​​wanted list of the United States; then the Iraqis per­suaded the U.S. not to arrest him; he leads the Mahdi Army. I mean, this is the bad guy that the United States makes clear is help­ing to bring down this gov­ern­ment, so why not com­mit to what our pos­ture is with regard to him now?
SEC. GATES: What I will say is that all parts of Baghdad are going to be involved in this cam­paign, includ­ing Sadr City. (Cross talk.) (Laughter.) 

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  1. Harry Toor says:
    January 11, 2007 at 1:03 am

    It’s called magic, that’s how, the same magic that got us into the war.
    For that mat­ter I didn’t expect you to be a con­spir­acy theorist.

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  2. TB says:
    January 11, 2007 at 1:50 am

    Bought off, or just given a slice of the pie?
    Just watch out for that knife boys … hey, we’ve installed/​supported thugs like Sadr before, and in the same region.
    Just watch out for that knife …

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  3. crack says:
    January 11, 2007 at 8:48 am

    Not just the same region TB, Same coun­try. Then we fought a glo­ri­ous war to get rid of him. Maybe that’s Bush’s new angle. Install Sadr, then go in and oust him in 2008.

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  4. Ticktockman says:
    January 11, 2007 at 10:15 am

    Sadr’s mili­tias have shown will­ing­ness to buck his author­ity before. If this lead­er­ship *has* been brought off, I expect a new leader to fill the insur­gent vac­cuum — unless seri­ous cler­i­cal power is brought to bear. But haven’t reli­gious lead­ers already con­demned the blood­shed, at least in pub­lic?
    Best case sce­nario from my inex­pe­ri­enced per­spec­tive, Sadr or his lieu­tenants have been bought off to a point where they are will­ing to arrange the arrest or ambush of sig­nif­i­cant insur­gents and stock­piles, neu­ter­ing resis­tance early in the con­test.
    –TTm

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  5. WCharles says:
    January 11, 2007 at 10:17 am

    Since this “new plan” will use the police sta­tions as bases, it seems that Sadr’s coop­er­a­tion is essen­tial. Thus, this “bought off” the­ory makes some sense. But what is the cost? What does Sadr get? I tend to agree with cowalker.

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  6. Nicholas Weaver says:
    January 11, 2007 at 10:25 am

    I seri­ously doubt that all the money in Allah’s cre­ation could buy of al Sadr. Look at the fit he pro­voked when Malaki just went to meet with Bush in jor­dan. He will tol­er­ate the US as long as the US is help­ing to kill the Sunni insur­gents (who he semes to view as a greater threat for the moment, after all, it was Sunni rad­i­cals, not the US, who blew up that Shrine), but that is about it.
    Rather, I think al Sadr has already set­tled on an “evap­o­rate” strat­egy, as long as the units “paci­fy­ing” Sadr city are effec­tively mem­bers of the Mahdi army any­way.
    The “evap­o­rate” strat­egy has been used twice before to great effect against the US mil­i­tary: Fight enough of a bat­tle to “put up a good fight” and main­tain cred­i­bil­ity, then go back home and ‘dis­s­a­pear’ as an army, because your army is every­one.
    And if the US tries to bring Sunni or Kurdish forces into Sadr City, or sig­nif­i­cant US pres­ence, we will find out just how quickly “all access” can change. Again, Sadr has had Malaki do this before, he would do that again.

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  7. ignoreland says:
    January 11, 2007 at 10:42 am

    This would be an ideal oppor­tu­nity for Sadr to con­sol­i­date his power — by giv­ing up a few vis­i­ble insur­gents who might rep­re­sent a future threat to him, he gets the US to do a twofer at lit­tle cost to him­self or the army peo­ple under his control.

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  8. MikeFair says:
    January 11, 2007 at 10:46 am

    It never makes sense to buy off an enemy, at least not an ide­alog­i­cal one. It’s hard to imag­ine how Bush, or any­one, could make that move.
    Sadr has an ide­alog­i­cal cause, or an ambi­tion for power, or both. Any gain that he would get from a deal, finan­cial or oth­er­wise, would only be par­layed later into more power. Bigger prob­lems later.

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  9. Mysticdog says:
    January 11, 2007 at 11:54 am

    Just to fol­low up on the last com­ment… why does the US ally with Sadr?
    Because he is anti-​​Iranian too. A Sadr backed gov­er­ment is almost as good as a sunni gov­ern­ment for coun­ter­ing Iran. Sadr thinks Iraq is the right­eous home­land of Shia Islam, and geo­graph­i­cally he is largely cor­rect. He has already largely defeated the Iranian shia in Iraq for lead­er­ship through­out the south.
    And in the end, we don’t really care who runs the coun­try beyond oppos­ing Iran and open­ing up the oil fields for US com­pa­nies. the fact that the Iraqi con­gress has appar­ently agreed to allow US com­pa­nies to keep more of the oil prof­its from pump­ing and trans­port than any other coun­try on earth seems to indi­cate that the deal has already been made in that regard.

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  10. Quaker in a Basement says:
    January 11, 2007 at 12:14 pm

    why does the US ally with Sadr?
    See LBJ’s ratio­nale for ally­ing with J. Edgar Hoover.

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  11. MinorRipper says:
    January 11, 2007 at 1:01 pm

    So let me get this straight: Bush is now defy­ing the Baker Report, Congress, the mil­i­tary, and the American pub­lic by esca­lat­ing the war…Forgive me for not brim­ming over with opti­mism…
    http://​www​.minor​-rip​per​.blogspot​.com

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  12. Zmonster says:
    January 11, 2007 at 1:35 pm

    We did this before by acci­dent, and had him by the short hairs. This time I believe we give weight to the notion, “knock it off, because whether your gov’t and your Prime Minister wants us to do it, we will any­way. This is the endgame, and Sadr will know that when we come for him for the fifth time.
    Lancers!!!! Black Knights

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  13. Eric Hundman says:
    January 11, 2007 at 3:44 pm

    Wild spec­u­la­tion here, but:
    What if Sadr has been bought off with his life. We promise to avoid harm­ing him, if at all pos­si­ble, in exchange for him giv­ing up some of his mili­tia and arma­ments. The rest of his mil­i­tary (those most firmly under his con­trol) go into hiber­na­tion until the U.S. finally with­draws, at which point he is excel­lently placed to grab power again.
    This would, seem­ingly, work well for both sides. Sadr gets to live, power base intact, while the US gets to save face, calm the coun­try before with­drawal, and avoid the messy busi­ness of assas­si­nat­ing a pop­u­lar Iraqi leader dur­ing a civil war. At the very least it seems more likely than a mon­e­tary buy­off.
    Anyone more informed than I care to add thoughts?

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  14. Nicholas weaver says:
    January 11, 2007 at 9:33 pm

    Eric:
    Wouldn’t work.
    A: Sadr knows he can dis­ap­pear into Sadr City and nobody will be able to find him. Look how long it took to find Saddam Hussein, and Hussein was mostly wanted dead by most of the peo­ple.
    B: Killing Sadr wouldn’t help, and he knows it. Alive, he can mod­er­ate. Dead, he’s a mar­tyr, and he’s enough of a believer that I’m not sure if he’d think it all THAT bad. Anyway, Hussein killed al Sadr’s father, and that didn’t stop the Shiites

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  15. MadOraDataMan says:
    January 12, 2007 at 2:51 am

    A deal to let Sadr take over if he and his forces lie low while we leave?
    I believe that dur­ing the last days of the Vietnam War, Henry Kissinger (or some­body) called this “a decent inter­val.” Question is, how much of an inter­val is “decent?” Nobody was much fooled by the inter­val between the “agree­ment” offi­cially end­ing the war in 1973 and what hap­pened in 1975.

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  16. markg8 says:
    January 12, 2007 at 10:28 am

    It could be that Sadr has ok’ed Maliki and the Americans going after the rogue com­man­ders who don’t lis­ten to him any­more. There’s a num­ber who’ve gone of his reser­va­tion and do their own kid­nap­pings for revenge or profit and think he’s too soft on Sunnis.
    This is the guy who after­all is try­ing to orga­nize
    a non sec­tar­ian move­ment to eject the occu­pa­tion and
    helped send an aid con­voy to Fallujah back in April 2004.

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  17. cronous money says:
    August 6, 2008 at 12:19 am

    Afterward I saw that some­one is accept­ing the appren­tice, I ran to him said that you accepted me, I will have a good future of cro­nous money.

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