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Home » Lasers and Ray Guns » Electric Lasers Shoot Mortars, Gain Strength

Electric Lasers Shoot Mortars, Gain Strength

Real-​​life laser weapons con­tinue to inch closer to real­ity. Two recent exam­ples: Raytheon says its “pro­to­type solid-​​state Laser Area Defense System (LADS) suc­cess­fully det­o­nated 60-​​millimeter mor­tars.” And Northrop Grumman is open­ing up a new “directed energy pro­duc­tion facil­ity” for build­ing high energy, solid-​​state lasers.
laser_lab.jpgRaytheon’s announce­ment is inter­est­ing, because solid-​​state, elec­tric lasers haven’t yet hit the 100 kilo­watt thresh­old which many peo­ple con­sider to be the min­i­mum strength for weapons-​​grade lasers. (They’re not too far off, though.) But Raytheon says they zapped these mor­tars using “an a proven, exist­ing, off-​​the-​​shelf solid-​​state laser, cou­pled with com­mer­cially avail­able optics tech­nol­ogy.“
So how did the com­pany pull it off? I got a non-​​answer from a com­pany flack, some­thing about “view[ing] the prob­lem from the user point of view.“
Now, this was a very lim­ited test. These mor­tars were small — just 60 mm. The com­pany wouldn’t say how long they were zapped (even a weak laser can bore holes in metal, given enough time). And the mor­tars were on the ground, around 550 yards away, not fly­ing through the air. But this LADS is built on the back on Raytheon’s 4,500-round-per-minute Phalanx gun, which is already knock­ing down mor­tars in Iraq. So pre­sum­ably, the tar­get­ing and track­ing piece is won’t be that hard to man­age. In-​​air tests of the laser are planned for later this year.
Meanwhile, Northrop has opened up a new facil­ity, south of Los Angeles, to build what the com­pany hopes is the world’s first 100 kilo­watt, solid-​​state laser. It’ll start by putting together the series of 32 gar­net crys­tal “mod­ules” that form the heart of the sys­tem. Shine light-​​emitting diodes into ‘em, and they start the laser chain-​​reaction, shoot­ing out focused light. Combine all those beams into one, and you’ve got your­self a battlefield-​​strength ray. The array is sim­i­lar to what Northrop used in its 25 kw demon­stra­tor. But the gum-​​stick-​​sized crys­tals have been shrunk by about 50% — part of the company’s effort to make the laser small and rugged enough for war zone use.
50 peo­ple should be hired over the next year in the new facil­ity. Company offi­cials say they’re still on track on demon­strate their 100 kw laser by the end of next year. If every­thing works accord­ing to plan, there should be enough room in the new build­ing to simul­ta­ne­ously build and test three weapons-​​grade lasers at once.

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  1. ohwilleke says:
    January 16, 2007 at 4:46 pm

    Presumably, one doesn’t need to cut through the metal. Simply heat­ing the metal to the point where inter­nal explo­sives ignite would be enough.
    This would pre­sum­ably not be ter­ri­bly scale depen­dent. If the ther­mal con­duc­tiv­ity of the metal between the sur­face and explo­sive in a 155mm mor­tar round really that much greater than in a 60mm mor­tar round? Indeed, the larger round would present a larger tar­get, which might com­pen­sate for a some­what longer heat­ing time.

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  2. Mojave Mark says:
    January 16, 2007 at 10:36 pm

    We must also keep in mind that an artillery or mor­tar round is spin­ning (usu­ally) when in flight. This would com­pli­cate efforts to heat the metal suf­fi­ciently to cut through.

    Reply
  3. Beowulf says:
    January 17, 2007 at 6:44 pm

    Hey Grendel, what’s the pho­ton momen­tum in the beam? Kinetic kill my ass.

    Reply
  4. Mike says:
    January 17, 2007 at 7:48 pm

    Actually, pho­tons have zero mass but do have momen­tum. The mag­ni­tude of the momen­tum of a pho­ton is given by
    p=h*nu/c
    where h is Planck’s con­stant, nu is the fre­quency, and c is the speed of light.

    Reply
  5. Jazz says:
    January 18, 2007 at 7:33 am

    pho­tons DO weigh some­thing, sorry. They are vis­i­bly attracted to the sun

    Reply
  6. cyga says:
    January 18, 2007 at 9:42 am

    OK, physics les­son time.
    Photons have no rest mass. The could not travel at the speed of light if they did. They DO have both energy and momen­tum. They are attracted to grav­i­ta­tional mass (e.g. they bend towards the sun) but this is true even though they do not have mass.
    http://​en​.wikipedia​.org/​w​i​k​i​/​P​h​o​ton
    Here comes the math. Assume a fre­quency of 3E14 Hertz (which is a good fre­quency for pass­ing through the atmos­phere and adap­tive optics is eas­i­est at this fre­quency). Each pho­ton has an energy of 1.98E-19 Joules and a momen­tum of 6.62E-28 kilogram*meter/second.
    A 100 KW laser fir­ing a 1 sec­ond pulse (gen­er­ous, the pulse is prob­a­bly shorter) fires off 1E5 joules or 5E23 pho­tons. The entire momen­tum in the beam is 3E-​​4 kilograms*meters/second.
    A typ­i­cal 2 gram rifle bul­let with a typ­i­cal 1000 meter/​second exit veloc­ity has a momen­tum of 20 kilogram*meter/second, roughly 66,000 times more momen­tum than the 100 KW laser beam.
    So laser weapons are not kinetic kill weapons. There is not enough momen­tum in the beam. Even the largest lasers in the world don’t have the momen­tum of a sin­gle AK47 round. They do their dam­age ther­mally, so spin­ning tar­gets and reflec­tive sur­faces are a problem.

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  7. Xibalba says:
    January 18, 2007 at 10:00 am

    Actually, pho­tons are not “attracted to the sun”.
    They appear to bend around the sun and other large objects (as seen with grav­i­ta­tional lens­ing), how­ever this is not due to mutual grav­i­ta­tional attrac­tion.
    The light appears to bend because it is actu­ally trav­el­ling a straight path through space-​​time. Because large masses, such as a star, warp space-​​time around them, they have the effect of bend­ing the appar­ent light path.
    Hope this helps

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  8. Zach Taylor says:
    January 18, 2007 at 11:08 am

    100 kw laser is noth­ing. In the book “Solid State Lasers for the Laser Enthusiast” by Daniel Gregory, he pro­vides infor­ma­tion on how to build a laser using an Nd:Yag rod with q-​​switching. One use a 3mm x 50mm rod and the other uses a 6mm x 76mm rod. I believe the big­ger rod pro­duces a 16 Megawatt beam and the smaller is around 2 Megawatts. Either of which far exceeds 100 Kilowatts. Here is the web­site for his com­pany:
    http://​www​.amer​i​can​lasertech​nic​.com/​i​n​d​e​x​.​htm

    Reply
  9. stev says:
    January 19, 2007 at 12:17 am

    check out the late paul marmet http://​www​.new​ton​physics​.on​.ca/​i​n​f​o​/​a​u​t​h​o​r​.​h​tml for the real spin on the pho­ton.
    par­tic­u­larly spend some time with the arti­cle on the fun­da­men­tal nature of the elec­tron.
    http://​www​.new​ton​physics​.on​.ca/
    arti­cle 20
    not that the math is wrong it really isn’t; it’s the the­ory behind it.

    Reply
  10. Jdrudge says:
    January 19, 2007 at 9:57 pm

    I agree, pho­tons do have mass. They are quite ‘light’, though. (I couldn’t resist)
    JDrudge

    Reply
  11. m says:
    January 24, 2007 at 3:08 am

    this is truly amaz­ing. :(
    it make me feel sooo proud to be part of that twenty first cen­tury :( (
    now talk about med­ical applications

    Reply
  12. Foton says:
    February 12, 2007 at 7:51 pm

    You do real­ize a Q switched laser has an ultra short pulse dura­tion. Meaning your hypo­thet­i­cal laser wouldn’t even come close to the sus­tained out­put of a 500 watt con­tin­u­ous wave laser aver­aged over a given time period.

    Reply
  13. Doctor Laser says:
    March 8, 2007 at 6:33 pm

    All of you need to take some Laser Physics lessons. Until you get your Ph.D. in laser physics, stop spec­u­lat­ing. Just stop it. Make your point, but don’t spec­u­late. Until you actu­ally are mak­ing these prod­ucts or have been in the laser field for many years, you have no right to guess this or that. Do your home­work before you talk. Thank You.
    – from some­one who DOES have a Ph.D. in laser physics

    Reply
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