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Home » You can run... » Inside the N.S.A. Hearing

Inside the N.S.A. Hearing

National Journal sur­veil­lance reporter Shane Harris has been watch­ing Attorney General Gonzales tes­ti­mony before the Senate Judiciary Committee. He calls an exchange with Senators Feingold and with Schumer about the NSA domes­tic wire­tap­ping program’s new legal sta­tus “espe­cially illu­mi­nat­ing.” Harris sees a new kind of order for the eaves­drop­ping, issued by a sin­gle — likely Administration-friendly — judge.
ag_ag_shrug.jpgFirst, the attor­ney gen­eral referred to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judge who issued this recent autho­riza­tion as he, when Gonzales said, He was very care­ful. That means that the pre­sid­ing judge, Colleen Kollar-Kotelly, who report­edly has expressed con­cerns about the NSA pro­gram taint­ing other FISA [Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act] war­rant appli­ca­tions, was not the judge who issued this order that appar­ently allows the NSA pro­gram to con­tinue. Of course, Kollar-Kottelly is the only woman on the 11-member court, so that doesnt much nar­row down the ques­tion of which judge gave the order.
When Feingold asked Gonzales how long it took the court to issue this order, Gonzales replied that it took longer than a nor­mal FISA appli­ca­tion. There are vary­ing accounts of how long it takes to secure and exe­cute a FISA war­rant, but admin­is­tra­tion offi­cials have said in the past that they didnt orig­i­nally seek FISA war­rants for the NSA pro­gram, in part, because the process took too long. So, it sounds as if Gonzales is say­ing that this most recent order from the judge came after longer than usual delib­er­a­tion on his part.
Gonzales also said that the admin­is­tra­tion sub­mit­ted an appli­ca­tion for this order to the judge, and that it was inno­v­a­tive. To the first par­tap­pli­ca­tion­this raises the ques­tion, which the Justice Department hasnt answered, of whether this recent order applied to one par­tic­u­lar inter­cept, to more than one, or to the entire pro­gram. Sen. Schumer pressed Gonzales for some speci­ficity on this point, but the attor­ney gen­eral declined to dis­cuss what he said were oper­a­tional details of the mat­ter. But read­ing between the lines a bit, I sus­pect that Gonzales means the admin­is­tra­tion has come up with an appli­ca­tion for elec­tronic sur­veil­lance, one that that fits the spe­cial para­me­ters of the NSA pro­gram, and that this inno­v­a­tive appli­ca­tion is dif­fer­ent from a tra­di­tional FISA appli­ca­tion. It took some time for a judge to get com­fort­able with this appli­ca­tion, Gonzales said, which I think implies that this appli­ca­tion is, indeed, unusual. Whether it will be used on a case-by-case basis, or whether it will cover any and all sur­veil­lance con­ducted under the para­me­ters of the NSA pro­gram is unclear. But pre­sum­ably, if a judge has found this new appli­ca­tion accept­able, and has ruled that it does work under the intel­li­gence sur­veil­lance law, then the admin­is­tra­tion would use it again if nec­es­sary.
One final note, Gonzales did refer to orders, plural, from the judge. He said that these orders meet the legal require­ments under FISA and that they also include min­i­miza­tion pro­ce­dures [to pro­tect per­sonal pri­vacy] above-and-beyond what is nor­mally required under law. Gonzales also acknowl­edged that, until the judge issued his recent order, the admin­is­tra­tion did not believe that FISA was avail­able to cover the NSA pro­gram. At times, offi­cials have said that they thought FISA did not apply, indi­cat­ing that they had made a legal judg­ment inde­pen­dent of the courts rul­ing. But Gonzales now seems to be say­ing that offi­cials were unsure whether FISA applied or not, which is what prompted them to work up this new, inno­v­a­tive appli­ca­tion to the court.
One other note: In yesterday’s back­ground brief­ing by senior Justice Department offi­cials, one of the them said that the new orders “take advan­tage of use of the use of the FISA statute and devel­op­ments in the law. I can’t really get into devel­op­ments in the law before the FISA court. But it’s a process that began nearly two years ago, and it’s just now that the court has approved these orders.”
“Developments in the law” implies that the recent court order is based not only on FISA, but on recent law, as well. Could be the Patriot Act, which includes elec­tronic sur­veil­lance pro­vi­sions. It sounds as if the judge con­sid­ered statutes other than FISA in mak­ing his deci­sion.
– Shane Harris
UPDATE 9:33 AM: As TPM Muckracker notes, “Rep. Heather Wilson (R-NM) out-and-out called Gonzales a liar.” The AG claimed he briefed Congress on the sur­veil­lance program’s new legal bound­aries. “She was never told of the plan, she said, and from what she heard yes­ter­day it likely stinks:

Ms. Wilson, who has scru­ti­nized the pro­gram for the last year, said she believed the new approach relied on a blan­ket, pro­gram­matic approval of the pres­i­dents sur­veil­lance pro­gram, rather than approval of indi­vid­ual war­rants.
Administration offi­cials have con­vinced a sin­gle judge in a secret ses­sion, in a non­ad­ver­sar­ial ses­sion, to issue a court order to cover the pres­i­dents ter­ror­ism sur­veil­lance pro­gram, Ms. Wilson said in a tele­phone inter­view. She said Congress needed to inves­ti­gate fur­ther to deter­mine how the pro­gram is run.

UPDATE 9:38 AM: Gonzales has met the enemy. And he blogs.

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  1. GaryO says:
    January 18, 2007 at 3:30 pm

    ‘Pigeon hole’ your oppo­nent in their stated posi­tion, then when your oppo­nent reaches a solu­tion, allude/criticize it as a change in posi­tion of that opponent(their waf­fling and being unsure of themselves)(not good lead­ers), never acknowl­edg­ing that a prob­lem has been solved.You must never let your oppo­nent be viewed in a favor­able light…
    This is what we are see­ing here folks.

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