Comments on: Bump: New Weapon Targeting Copters?

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By: shandarhu

shandarhu — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:24:27 +0000

I designed a new weapon for Apache Helicopter,and
I believe that is the moden :effecttive gun than now used,with camera,optic-fibre,helf-spherical
direction,and much more effect and aiming the target more quick—so called RQ-system.And I need the help to finish it.And I hope someone Help me to contact with Army weapon research center or Army leader who take charge of this.And
let them to be finished for military usage.

By: Mike Sparks

Mike Sparks — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 22:35:16 +0000

http://www.combatreform2.com/escape.htm
* MAKE HELICOPTERS FLY FASTER AND/OR QUIETER
* STOP WEARING STUPID DARK GREEN CAMOUFLAGE ON HELICOPTERS OVER SKY BLUE AND TAN DAYLIGHT IRAQ
* PROVIDE HELICOPTER CREW ESCAPE CAPABILITY SO LOSSES WE CANNOT AVOID DON’T BECOME A MORALE BUSTER/PR DISASTER

By: Andy

Andy — Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:33:22 +0000

Byron,
I’m not sure where you’re getting your information, but manpads, particularly SA-7’s, have pretty long shelf lives. The vast majority of manpads in Iraq are from Iraq stockpiles that were dispersed prior to the war. We’ve found functioning SA-7’s 14’s in Afghanistan that date from the 1980’s that are still operational. SA-7s are particularly long-lived because they don’t have a cooled seeker head.
The CH-46 shootdown video was not an RPG. First of all, the weapon guided on the aircraft. Secondly, the weapon had a smoke trail (RPG’s do not), and third, RPGs self-destruct after about 800 meters or so. The helo was far beyond 800 meters when it was hit.
It was almost certainly a manpad — probably a 7 or a 14.
Manpads are always a serious threat, but often crews will prefer to fly in manpad engagement envelopes rather than RPG and small-arms, particularly over urban terrain.

By: Byron Skinner

Byron Skinner — Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:51:11 +0000

Good Morning Robot Economist,
You are 100% correct Robot, Saddam’s old Army has a rather large invantory of SA-7 Sam’s, but. The SA-7 like all of the other man portable SAMs require a lot of maintence while in storage, batteries, cuirt boards and fuel periodically need replacing, this just didn’t happen. Any of those old SAM-7’s still around are junk.
The current stock seems to be comming from North Korea and China, both rip off as I know you know of the old Soviet era SAM-7. Since direct shipments into Iraq could be a problem, Iran has been used as a country of convience of arms into Iraq.
A post from the DoD today on this issue seems to confirm what I said in my post of yesterday. The only difference is that the say 120 helicopters have been lost in the GWOT, 30 through maintence problems the rest through enemy ground fire and SAM’s. The number for SAM’s is not given but the overall tone of the statement down plays there roll in bringing down U.S. and British helicopters. I will stick with my extimate of three downings untill a better accounting og this issue is posted.
And yes I knjow that the DoD is still stucking with a maintence problem with the CH-46 downed earlier this week but the video that was put up on Wednesday is pretty convenicing that it was taken out by ground fire and an RPG hit on the port side aft, and so far when this type of disagreement of fact has happened the insurgents have been found to be the most correct and I haver no doubt that it will be the same here too.
To those of you who still want to believe in the Bush green machine, why would the insurgents have a video if this was not a planned set up ambush of a U.S. CH-46?
ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

By: Linda

Linda — Sat, 10 Feb 2007 07:29:57 +0000

Homeland Security: My question is, are foreign saboteurs in our country, targeting our oil refineries, oil tankers, CHEMICAL PLANTS, etc. etc.? EX: The EXPLOSION, 3-day fire at Kansas City, MO Chemical Plant, forced evacuation of 500 people;
EPA “reassures” that the toxic smoke & crap released into Air wasn’t dangerous (yeah, right, they said that air at 9–11 World Trade Center cleanup site too, now first responders, other volunteers, rescue dogs sick, maybe will die).
I don’t believe if Terrorist Sabotage has been or is occurring, that the Feds OR the Media, will tell us; no, they’ll suppress, censor, coverup the nature of the so-called “Accidents”.
EX: Were the TWO explosions & fires at the TEXAS BP OIL REFINERY due to BP’s el-cheapo lack of maintenance, causing the “accidental” explosion? Or was it really a terrorist act of sabotage?
We know Google, other Internet companies who operate in Communist Red China, are helping the Chinese gov’t. CENSOR the Internet there, CENSOR their news; how soon before they do the same here? Or, are they already self-censoring?
We know FOX Faux News network self-censors, lies, & gives out BUSH propaganda. If Fox News “investigative reporters” discovered any such cover-ups by Bush admin., would they keep silent about it? Bet your booty!

By: Robot Economist

Robot Economist — Sat, 10 Feb 2007 00:02:25 +0000

I hate to bring up such an obvious point, but there were a substantial number of SA-7s in the old Iraqi army’s inventory. If it turns out some of these helo shoot-downs were caused by MANPADS, my money would be on domestic sourcing.
I remember an LA Times article from back in 2003 talking about the Coalition Provisional Authority was buying them back off the streets for as little as 500USD a piece.

By: Byron Skinner

Byron Skinner — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:41:40 +0000

Good Morning Folks,
Many interesting comments here, it appears sholder fired missiles are a hot topic of conversation but I don’t think they represent that serious of a threat to U.S. helicopters. There are several reason but the biggest two are cost, in excess of $5,000.00 on the international arms market and the level of training required for the operator.
In brief these thing are just to expensive and to technical to use for them to be a vaible choice for the insurgents when other option are avaiable.
The military is understandably very secretive on this subjuect but it appears that since 2003 the U.S. has lost 59 helicopters in Iraq. From this group about a third of of the downings has been called “accident” usually meaning pilot error or a maintence problem that went catastrophic in flight and only three not counting the Blackhawk that went doen on 1/30 (it may in fact be from a sholder fired weapon due to it being a high value target with 2 Cols. and a Lt. Col. on board, the insurgents also have very good intell too.) have been attribuated to a sholder fired AA missile. The remainder have either been due to small arms fire or RPG’s. Other the the mentioned time fuse that is set at 1000 ft. there is also a proximity fuse round that has proved quite deadly.
The best way to keep from getting shot down is the same as it was in Vietnam, stay out of the kill box. In Vietnam over 2,500 helicopters were downed by mainly small arms fire the bad guys have time to learn how to do this. The CH-46 that went down earlier this week was flying at about 200 feet whent it go hit, it was on a milk run and didn’t need to be flying in the kill box.
As an old 60’s protest song “Wher have all the Flowers Gone” say “…when will they ever learn.“
ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

By: Charles

Charles — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:32:04 +0000

In case you didn’t get the message the Mujahideen Shura has a faction that is supported directly by Al Qaida in it’s ranks. All are dedicated to at a minimum, removing the Crusader occupiers.
I wouldn’t discount Iranians supporting the Sunni insurgents-Reagan supported things Americans didn’t like too (like death squads, gave TOWs to Iran and Stingers to the Muj, and money to eventually form Al Qaeda). If America can do unsavory realpolitik, it’s not unconceivable other countries could too.
But yeah, keep your eyes on Syria. It may not be as rich as Iran, but it’s probably helping the Sunnis a lot more. Only the evangelicals want to invade Syria “to protect Israel” as they put it. The neocons need blackjuice, and Syria don’t got any. Iran on the other hand…