Comments on: Britain’s new nuke debate

By: Brycey

Brycey — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:46:29 +0000

…I cannot believe what i’ve just read… all you who think that getting rid of our nukes is a good idea, are all completely ignorant! Lets say Iran or Libya gets hold of nukes, do you really think that they are not going to fire on us just because we’ve dismantled ours??? Get a Grip! but if they did get a hold of some and we DO have nukes, they might think twice about launching them if they know that they are going to get nuked too! Don’t ya think?!

By: elizzar

elizzar — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:02:11 +0000

Hi all.
A few points. Firstly there has been some serious uk government investment (>

By: Murc

Murc — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 04:35:08 +0000

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By: Byron Skinner

Byron Skinner — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:14:26 +0000

Good Morning Folks,
One point that I think that has been missed in this dicussion is that the U.K. doesn’t produce it’s nuclear weapons be it SLICBM’s, Tomahawks, or enen Mark 48’s. They are dependant on the United States for there nuclear capabilities.
The unasked question is, is this where the U.K. really wants to be?
Can the U.S. be relied on, will the Americans alway be on the side of the best interests of the U.K. I doubt that any citizen of the U.K. can honestly say yes to either of these questions.
If the above is true then the only option that would be acceptable to the U. K. would be a nuclear force that is Independent of Washington and fickled American voters who could in any Presidental Election elect a Neo-Calvinist President who firmly beleave that the U.K. is in the bowels of Satin and it’s destruction would be a blessing to all Christians.
ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

By: Macaca

Macaca — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:22:54 +0000

I dont think its a good idea to listen too much to normal medium/lower tier civilian administrators and the public in general in global security issues like this. They simply dont have the background knowledge and worldview needed to assess topics like this.
This nuke issue one of those things you dont want to mess up. A problem is the magnitude of the matter (mega-ton explosions) in combination with the ‘rogue state’ thing. You simply cannot be sure.
But in the normal politics any insecurity will be exploited by ones opponents, because of any conflict will be magnified and polarized. Which is stupid enough in normal politics, but heh, that democracy for you. But the trend in democracy is that its a free-for-all mixed tag team madness: and it’s so easy to score from the anti-nuke position (and very easy to burn yourself when pro-nuke), so dont expected a proper solution, but a somewhat gimped compromise that will A: costs lots of money anyway, and B: wont properly do its job.
Maybe ask the public a question: do you want the military to protect our economy and our livestyle? If yes: give a budget and let usfix things. If not: then its everybody for himself: start digging bunkers and learning Arabic.

By: David Hambling

David Hambling — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 11:55:13 +0000

It’s not about money per se — the

By: BT

BT — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 00:37:36 +0000

The ‘guns versus butter’ argument in not valid for nuclear deterence. The UK must decide if they need operational nuclear weapons or not. My guess, unless there is some sort of EU security collective, they will decide not to renew their nuclear weapons, and become like Japan. They will remain under the US nuclear umbrella. In 20 years, that will leave the US, Russia, China, India, Pakistan, France, Israel, and Iran with active nuclear weapons.
Notice I left out DPRK, and included Iran, those two countries have different fates in the next 20 years. DPRK will not exist, and Iran will be the Persian Hegemon and be a counter to Israel.

By: sam

sam — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:15:16 +0000

“As a Brit, I agree — our hospitals and public transport systems are falling apart, we don’t have the money to waste on hypocritical ‘we need them to be safe’ weapons.“
Well, you guys will likely be part of the European Islamic Republic one day-so if you want to give up the nukes now-that’s fine.

By: Tom Chiverton

Tom Chiverton — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 20:15:01 +0000

As a Brit, I agree — our hospitals and public transport systems are falling apart, we don’t have the money to waste on hypocritical ‘we need them to be safe’ weapons.
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By: Byron Skinner

Byron Skinner — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:47:59 +0000

Good Morning Folks,
Like Putin’s Russia the United Kingdom is falling off the second tier of Nations. Neither country can afford to support the Nuclear Option and for both it time to face reality.
ALLONS,
Byron Skinner