http://defensetech.org/2007/03/13/pdw-for-the-us-army/ The Future of the Military, Law Enforcement and National Security Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:57:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 http://defensetech.org/2007/03/13/pdw-for-the-us-army/#comment-157886 Pam Toll Tue, 05 May 2009 19:30:51 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3556#comment-157886 I was reading this article on the Illumnati which is an underground group. They had a retired British Intelligence director quoted as saying" Any professional intelligent agent knows there is no such thing as a group known as Al Queda as a terrorist organization, but its a Devil to produce thru the media to get the public to believe they have identified the source or target of terrorism." I was wondering if it is true, that Alquada is not an actual terror organization, but fabricated by the FBI AND OR US MILITARY. I am not saying that there are not known terror groups. But theyre structure and recruiting practices can be identified. The Template of events of which people are rounded up into these underground groups which could be construed as criminal ,left wing, damaging to the infrastructure in their activities, which in fact is the US definition of terrorism.."Damage to the infrastructure" as opposed to blowing up SUVs and stealing stuff. Where can the identifiable sources of a terror cell abroad, much less in the USA proper be identified, but not labled as an ALQUADA cell? Are newer underground groups formulating calling themselves something Different.. even if they formulate on a similar basis that Suicide bombers and loyalsts are rounded up from forgein countries. I have seen and noted the common element between the US terror groups, yet named and Forgein terror groups is that they solicit people who are down and not accepted within the whole of society and POSITIVELY REINFORCE NEGATIVE BEHAVIORS to encourage persons to SPY on and undermind the govt, damage, steal, infiltrate, rob, kidnap, abuse , torture , use of moderate homemade chemical weaponry and MAJOR INTERNET AND INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURE damage and insurgency. The propaganda found on credible well known popular websites, and the false news and entertainment stories filtered in , and bad, corrupt banking, stock market , credit card, mortgage and other such financial tampering and adjustments is cause for ALARM that we are under a terror attack in the USA , as well as around the world. Our authorities have not done enough to identify this level of hacking as acts of terrorism as it could be actually defined. Laws do not make for prompt, efficient or well understood law enforcement investigations. The line is not clear where the cops stop and the Military begins. There is still a total lack of coordination in such matters, and witnesses credibility are attacked as feverishly as the WORLD TRADE CENTERS WERE. Something must be done to alert the general public and to control and stop these underground activities which seem widely ignored by the State and local authorities. I was reading this article on the Illumnati which is an underground group. They had a retired British Intelligence director quoted as saying” Any professional intelligent agent knows there is no such thing as a group known as Al Queda as a terrorist organization, but its a Devil to produce thru the media to get the public to believe they have identified the source or target of terrorism.“
I was wondering if it is true, that Alquada is not an actual terror organization, but fabricated by the FBI AND OR US MILITARY. I am not saying that there are not known terror groups. But theyre structure and recruiting practices can be identified. The Template of events of which people are rounded up into these underground groups which could be construed as criminal ‚left wing, damaging to the infrastructure in their activities, which in fact is the US definition of terrorism..“Damage to the infrastructure” as opposed to blowing up SUVs and stealing stuff.
Where can the identifiable sources of a terror cell abroad, much less in the USA proper be identified, but not labled as an ALQUADA cell?
Are newer underground groups formulating calling themselves something Different.. even if they formulate on a similar basis that Suicide bombers and loyalsts are rounded up from forgein countries.
I have seen and noted the common element between the US terror groups, yet named and Forgein terror groups is that they solicit people who are down and not accepted within the whole of society and POSITIVELY REINFORCE NEGATIVE BEHAVIORS to encourage persons to SPY on and undermind the govt, damage, steal, infiltrate, rob, kidnap, abuse , torture , use of moderate homemade chemical weaponry and MAJOR INTERNET AND INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURE damage and insurgency. The propaganda found on credible well known popular websites, and the false news and entertainment stories filtered in , and bad, corrupt banking, stock market , credit card, mortgage and other such financial tampering and adjustments is cause for ALARM that we are under a terror attack in the USA , as well as around the world. Our authorities have not done enough to identify this level of hacking as acts of terrorism as it could be actually defined. Laws do not make for prompt, efficient or well understood law enforcement investigations. The line is not clear where the cops stop and the Military begins. There is still a total lack of coordination in such matters, and witnesses credibility are attacked as feverishly as the WORLD TRADE CENTERS WERE.
Something must be done to alert the general public and to control and stop these underground activities which seem widely ignored by the State and local authorities.

]]> http://defensetech.org/2007/03/13/pdw-for-the-us-army/#comment-157885 Pam Toll Tue, 05 May 2009 19:29:19 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3556#comment-157885 I was reading this article on the Illumnati which is an underground group. They had a retired British Intelligence director quoted as saying" Any professional intelligent agent knows there is no such thing as a group known as Al Queda as a terrorist organization, but its a Devil to produce thru the media to get the public to believe they have identified the source or target of terrorism." I was wondering if it is true, that Alquada is not an actual terror organization, but fabricated by the FBI AND OR US MILITARY. I am not saying that there are not known terror groups. But theyre structure and recruiting practices can be identified. The Template of events of which people are rounded up into these underground groups which could be construed as criminal ,left wing, damaging to the infrastructure in their activities, which in fact is the US definition of terrorism.."Damage to the infrastructure" as opposed to blowing up SUVs and stealing stuff. Where can the identifiable sources of a terror cell abroad, much less in the USA proper be identified, but not labled as an ALQUADA cell? Are newer underground groups formulating calling themselves something Different.. even if they formulate on a similar basis that Suicide bombers and loyalsts are rounded up from forgein countries. I have seen and noted the common element between the US terror groups, yet named and Forgein terror groups is that they solicit people who are down and not accepted within the whole of society and POSITIVELY REINFORCE NEGATIVE BEHAVIORS to encourage persons to SPY on and undermind the govt, damage, steal, infiltrate, rob, kidnap, abuse , torture , use of moderate homemade chemical weaponry and MAJOR INTERNET AND INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURE damage and insurgency. The propaganda found on credible well known popular websites, and the false news and entertainment stories filtered in , and bad, corrupt banking, stock market , credit card, mortgage and other such financial tampering and adjustments is cause for ALARM that we are under a terror attack in the USA , as well as around the world. Our authorities have not done enough to identify this level of hacking as acts of terrorism as it could be actually defined. Laws do not make for prompt, efficient or well understood law enforcement investigations. The line is not clear where the cops stop and the Military begins. There is still a total lack of coordination in such matters, and witnesses credibility are attacked as feverishly as the WORLD TRADE CENTERS WERE. Something must be done to alert the general public and to control and stop these underground activities which seem widely ignored by the State and local authorities. I was reading this article on the Illumnati which is an underground group. They had a retired British Intelligence director quoted as saying” Any professional intelligent agent knows there is no such thing as a group known as Al Queda as a terrorist organization, but its a Devil to produce thru the media to get the public to believe they have identified the source or target of terrorism.“
I was wondering if it is true, that Alquada is not an actual terror organization, but fabricated by the FBI AND OR US MILITARY. I am not saying that there are not known terror groups. But theyre structure and recruiting practices can be identified. The Template of events of which people are rounded up into these underground groups which could be construed as criminal ‚left wing, damaging to the infrastructure in their activities, which in fact is the US definition of terrorism..“Damage to the infrastructure” as opposed to blowing up SUVs and stealing stuff.
Where can the identifiable sources of a terror cell abroad, much less in the USA proper be identified, but not labled as an ALQUADA cell?
Are newer underground groups formulating calling themselves something Different.. even if they formulate on a similar basis that Suicide bombers and loyalsts are rounded up from forgein countries.
I have seen and noted the common element between the US terror groups, yet named and Forgein terror groups is that they solicit people who are down and not accepted within the whole of society and POSITIVELY REINFORCE NEGATIVE BEHAVIORS to encourage persons to SPY on and undermind the govt, damage, steal, infiltrate, rob, kidnap, abuse , torture , use of moderate homemade chemical weaponry and MAJOR INTERNET AND INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURE damage and insurgency. The propaganda found on credible well known popular websites, and the false news and entertainment stories filtered in , and bad, corrupt banking, stock market , credit card, mortgage and other such financial tampering and adjustments is cause for ALARM that we are under a terror attack in the USA , as well as around the world. Our authorities have not done enough to identify this level of hacking as acts of terrorism as it could be actually defined. Laws do not make for prompt, efficient or well understood law enforcement investigations. The line is not clear where the cops stop and the Military begins. There is still a total lack of coordination in such matters, and witnesses credibility are attacked as feverishly as the WORLD TRADE CENTERS WERE.
Something must be done to alert the general public and to control and stop these underground activities which seem widely ignored by the State and local authorities.

]]> http://defensetech.org/2007/03/13/pdw-for-the-us-army/#comment-157883 Barbara R. Benson Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:15:10 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3556#comment-157883 Weight Lifting for Beginners - Weight lifting wrist straps for beginners When starting to train, sometimes it is necessary for beginners to know that there are necessary items to get, and these items are needed in order to get a good work out going on if you are getting into building up. And what is this gear good for? Well, non other than to make you built up faster and to protect your body from suffering unnecessary injuries, in other words, this is equipment not only for beginners, but for all people who are into lifting weights, to use such products as Weight lifting wrist straps. It doesn Weight Lifting for Beginners — Weight lifting wrist straps for beginners
When starting to train, sometimes it is necessary for beginners to know that there are necessary items to get, and these items are needed in order to get a good work out going on if you are getting into building up. And what is this gear good for? Well, non other than to make you built up faster and to protect your body from suffering unnecessary injuries, in other words, this is equipment not only for beginners, but for all people who are into lifting weights, to use such products as Weight lifting wrist straps. It doesn

]]> http://defensetech.org/2007/03/13/pdw-for-the-us-army/#comment-157880 LtCurry Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:45:47 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3556#comment-157880 So youre sayign make a 7.62 casign out of 6061 t-6 aluminum, and compress the chamber to help the round from exploding in the breech? Anythign else would be way to expensive, and or heavy. titanium, coramite, 17-4 stainless stamped, everyting would make a single bullet cost more than $2.00 a piece. brass is goign to be used untill we find some exotic material tha is easy to make and process, or re-design the firearm from the groudn up, as in electrical pusle, as proven, or other means as in transistor powered and co2 laser. If we coudl design a cheap shit american US-08, like the ak-47, with a quality barrel i would be happy. I love my M-16, M-4, m-14, m1, ar-15, p-90, mp-5. But if something is better, and made fast, deal with the firepower we have. The M-16 was made to penetrate kevlar at 200 to 300 meters. The M-14 is a shorter stick, the roudn was never emant to be used in 20 ft engagements. we need to go back to Hollow points and not FMJ's for close combat. Screw the rules of engagement. They behead us with swiss army knives if captured. So what it a fragmentation round causes a litle more pain before achmed expires. So youre sayign make a 7.62 casign out of 6061 t-6 aluminum, and compress the chamber to help the round from exploding in the breech? Anythign else would be way to expensive, and or heavy. titanium, coramite, 17–4 stainless stamped, everyting would make a single bullet cost more than $2.00 a piece. brass is goign to be used untill we find some exotic material tha is easy to make and process, or re-design the firearm from the groudn up, as in electrical pusle, as proven, or other means as in transistor powered and co2 laser. If we coudl design a cheap shit american US-08, like the ak-47, with a quality barrel i would be happy. I love my M-16, M-4, m-14, m1, ar-15, p-90, mp-5. But if something is better, and made fast, deal with the firepower we have. The M-16 was made to penetrate kevlar at 200 to 300 meters. The M-14 is a shorter stick, the roudn was never emant to be used in 20 ft engagements. we need to go back to Hollow points and not FMJ’s for close combat. Screw the rules of engagement. They behead us with swiss army knives if captured. So what it a fragmentation round causes a litle more pain before achmed expires.

]]> http://defensetech.org/2007/03/13/pdw-for-the-us-army/#comment-157879 LtCurry Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:29:40 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3556#comment-157879 The P-90 is not that good of a weapon. Yest it has the ss190 round, which produces less kinetic energy than a 5.56 nato at 20 meters, adn has a 10 inch barrel? So the accuracy is out the window. It is a reliable weapon untill the clips 90' rotation seazes after gettign dirt in it. I have used them. I like them for short range personal defense. The m16-a2/a3 are great weapons with twice the velocity and lbs at range. but we shoudl look into a more simple 7.62 firing gun of similiar shape and design so all the dirt/gas related jams will not be an issue. And critics can shut up. It will have a little more stoppign power but accuracy?? depends on the design. The ak-47 is the most innacurate rifle i haev aver shot. The P-90 is not that good of a weapon. Yest it has the ss190 round, which produces less kinetic energy than a 5.56 nato at 20 meters, adn has a 10 inch barrel? So the accuracy is out the window. It is a reliable weapon untill the clips 90′ rotation seazes after gettign dirt in it.
I have used them. I like them for short range personal defense. The m16-a2/a3 are great weapons with twice the velocity and lbs at range. but we shoudl look into a more simple 7.62 firing gun of similiar shape and design so all the dirt/gas related jams will not be an issue. And critics can shut up. It will have a little more stoppign power but accuracy?? depends on the design. The ak-47 is the most innacurate rifle i haev aver shot.

]]> http://defensetech.org/2007/03/13/pdw-for-the-us-army/#comment-62002 Michelle Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:51:00 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3556#comment-62002 Peachsurprize - you are f...ing crazy Peachsurprize — you are f…ing crazy

]]> http://defensetech.org/2007/03/13/pdw-for-the-us-army/#comment-62001 Demophilus Wed, 16 May 2007 18:49:50 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3556#comment-62001 Peaches: http://zapatopi.net/afdb/afdbdiagram.pdf Peaches:
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]]> http://defensetech.org/2007/03/13/pdw-for-the-us-army/#comment-62000 Demophilus Wed, 16 May 2007 18:48:57 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3556#comment-62000 Peaches: http://zapatopi.net/afdb/afdbdiagram.pdf Peaches:
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]]> http://defensetech.org/2007/03/13/pdw-for-the-us-army/#comment-157877 Peachsurprize Wed, 16 May 2007 02:44:49 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3556#comment-157877 a US citizen, and a person who provided significant PRE 9-11 intelligence that pretty much named the plotters of it, has been implanted with an audio tooth transmitter which is satitellited. the persons who arranged this were unknown to her, and she has been subjected to severe -type equipt tracking equipt, but its in the hands of inexperienced, and criminals. They can see her on the road like on Television,and can hear nearby conversation. they are gangstalking her with horrible harrassment and underminding. Including stealing all her financial and personal data. they are murdering witnesses who know persons donated cars, casha nd property to her . She lives in PARK FOREST IL and has heard these blacks killing in the nite at various suburban locations including some fellow US military undercover. She has asked over and over for help and has located four bases of this forgein military op which runs a fullscale alquaida operation . There is an all black secret war with over 2000 members now and a large significant White following as well, but their issues are crime related. The matter is out of control and based around PARK FOREST UNIVERSITY PARK FLOSSMOOR, COUNTrY CLUB HILLS< ORLAND PARK , TINELY PARK AND BRIDGEVIEW/CRESTWOOD.They are using chemical assaults on her, and poisoning the water supply in park forest with melamine. and practice using yellow block uranium powder as well. Local officals have been trained NOT TO RESPOND. She has significant info but no one seems to want to take the report. see yahoo 360 blog under peacheswrites for some updates. They changed the password on her so she cant update her blog. a US citizen, and a person who provided significant PRE 9–11 intelligence that pretty much named the plotters of it, has been implanted with an audio tooth transmitter which is satitellited. the persons who arranged this were unknown to her, and she has been subjected to severe –type equipt tracking equipt, but its in the hands of inexperienced, and criminals. They can see her on the road like on Television,and can hear nearby conversation. they are gangstalking her with horrible harrassment and underminding. Including stealing all her financial and personal data. they are murdering witnesses who know persons donated cars, casha nd property to her . She lives in PARK FOREST IL and has heard these blacks killing in the nite at various suburban locations including some fellow US military undercover.
She has asked over and over for help and has located four bases of this forgein military op which runs a fullscale alquaida operation . There is an all black secret war with over 2000 members now and a large significant White following as well, but their issues are crime related.
The matter is out of control and based around PARK FOREST UNIVERSITY PARK FLOSSMOOR, COUNTrY CLUB HILLS< ORLAND PARK , TINELY PARK AND BRIDGEVIEW/CRESTWOOD.They are using chemical assaults on her, and poisoning the water supply in park forest with melamine. and practice using yellow block uranium powder as well. Local officals have been trained NOT TO RESPOND.
She has significant info but no one seems to want to take the report.
see yahoo 360 blog under peacheswrites for some updates. They changed the password on her so she cant update her blog.

]]> http://defensetech.org/2007/03/13/pdw-for-the-us-army/#comment-157876 Jimmi Tue, 08 May 2007 01:52:03 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3556#comment-157876 Though I study those matters from years, I'm very pragmatic and not too tecnical. I'm no snob or a cold calculator, though I study technical details professionally. And, I like to use harsh expressions when we talk about those things.... even if I'm not american :) SO, firearms are made to defeat the enemy before he does, and live, period. The whole concept of adopting a pdw and ship it to Iraq is a pile of shit. Probably useful in the real 20 percent of the work spec people do, so it's like the 2 percent of the stuff you're gonna do with a firearm as a whole in modern warfare. You already got the perfect pdw for military use , and its the m16 system. It was first issued for that use, airfield defense, not for heavy duty. They decided to put it as ordnance as a strategic tool to provide 1- more ammo and easy shooting, easy learning 2- wounding potential very profitable in a modern warfare situation against AN ARMY. It was the best STRATEGICAL stuff to fight the russian organization on the globe , and if cold war got hot you could have had a great number of soldiers wounding the enemy easily and from adequately far, few hours of training. It was a matter of NUMBERS. Now you find yourself in a position were you want to STOP threats, not to win wars (sorry to say that I'd like to know the opinion of people who GOT there). So, you find yourself with an underpowered "piercer" rifle for serious work ...... and troops (contractors too) in the backlines, getting more and more involved in firefights. Importantly, soldiers feel they're shooting peas. So....let's buy newer toys (see the USELESS xm8, which is a m16 in a trashy scifi suit, internals from the 50s..) ! let's waste money (sorry for the social security system anyways...) I see two solutions - work over the m4, or any other stoner system which is great for "light" firearms, and armorers who knows the basics will agree with me on this (MP7 IS A STONER SYSTEM), make something like a bullpup or anything like this , the keypoint is study recoil COMPENSATION (more on it later) that would lenghten the barrel and lessen the weight of the whole system (which is already very light). The enemy will find out 5.56 is a better pdw caliber than a 4.5 or whatever I'll assure you.And yes the 5.56 will stop bulletproof enemies , with MODERN recoil compensation will allow at least half of the ole m16 dispersion , and will perform GREATLY in short distances (real user on combat know that m16 is a killer on short distances normally more than a 7.62) . Important: if you adopt a pdw expect a lot of them to go on heavy duty frontlines (see m1 carbine ). How are you gonna deal with a 4.5 mm caliber in that situation? We're griping about the 5.56 mm , imagine a 4 mm deal!! - work over the 7.62 Yes indeed we have found the best caliber for military use (not paperwork bullshit) and it's the 7.62 period. It's big enough to be modernized in centuries.Volume size and caliber are the best for the job. It touches until where modern optics can make you see (widespread use of optics made people see m16 faults) .But's expensive and it kicks and shouts flames. Changing materials to allow a less costy cartridge (less heavy too -new gunpowders, new metal procedures-?), and WORK OVER RECOIL SYSTEMS will provide the best small arm available at least until caseless stuff comes out. Summarizing a modern rifle round: 7.62 caliber nato -work over materials of the round -work over recoil compensation and fast sighting. Recoil systems (and fast sight acquistion) are THE FUTURE , who doesn't get that shouldn't work on new rifles, or at least will fail miserably. Keep in mind both of the solution I proposed would use almost 50 years of materials and production lines already organized and expended, very effective way of improving the most important thing, such as infantry tools (at least in my opinon...... media docet ) without feeling guilty. About recoil systems, I could talk about this topic forever, and people that's on the front will certainly agree, screw "round placement" reality IS different.Expecially with poorly trained youngsters. It's very funny the american point of view is wasting time and money creating tons of new ammo possibilities (6mm) that bring nowhere. And europe, offering some handy toish tools that won't really be the best you get when the shit hits the fan. Anyway, the thing tha bugs me, is that the site is full of people that talks about using guns under stress, and nobody comes out with the idea of KEEPING THE SAME PRESTATIONS that make you feel safe, WORKING OVER THE FEEDBACK OF EXISTING RIFLES AND CUT THE PRICE OF EXISTING AMMO so you get more rounds with an adequate punch. I mean guys did you go in iraq or you just played videogames? You waste tax dollars implementing system tha will grow thrash. Oh well, that's the secret of american warfare right now, badly enough NOT ONLY on firearms but on MUCH MORE COSTY tecnology, spending money and trashing, get rich and disappear.....that's a shame.We already have the technology. So summarizing : MODERN RECOIL SYSTEM 7.62 rifle for frontline (more than 200 yards) , enhanched 5,56 system as pdw-close combat (200 yards) .... and smgs for specops. That's all for longarms. Finally: we have reaced the peak of gunpowder ammo systems (guns included) development just after ww2 .... no need to work again over "new system" on case ammo, just modernize them. Use the remaining money on more important things like social care and development of nature-friendly resources ... It's a matter of mentality. If anybody wants to talk on the subject go ahead, I'd like to hear armorers opinions or somebody who really uses the stuff. thx for your time, hope I DID upset somebody just to make people think. Though I study those matters from years, I’m very pragmatic and not too tecnical. I’m no snob or a cold calculator, though I study technical details professionally.
And, I like to use harsh expressions when we talk about those things.… even if I’m not american :)
SO, firearms are made to defeat the enemy before he does, and live, period.
The whole concept of adopting a pdw and ship it to Iraq is a pile of shit.
Probably useful in the real 20 percent of the work spec people do, so it’s like the 2 percent of the stuff you’re gonna do with a firearm as a whole in modern warfare.
You already got the perfect pdw for military use , and its the m16 system. It was first issued for that use, airfield defense, not for heavy duty. They decided to put it as ordnance as a strategic tool to provide 1– more ammo and easy shooting, easy learning 2– wounding potential very profitable in a modern warfare situation against AN ARMY. It was the best STRATEGICAL stuff to fight the russian organization on the globe , and if cold war got hot you could have had a great number of soldiers wounding the enemy easily and from adequately far, few hours of training. It was a matter of NUMBERS.
Now you find yourself in a position were you want to STOP threats, not to win wars (sorry to say that I’d like to know the opinion of people who GOT there). So, you find yourself with an underpowered “piercer” rifle for serious work .….. and troops (contractors too) in the backlines, getting more and more involved in firefights.
Importantly, soldiers feel they’re shooting peas.
So.…let’s buy newer toys (see the USELESS xm8, which is a m16 in a trashy scifi suit, internals from the 50s..) ! let’s waste money (sorry for the social security system anyways…)
I see two solutions
– work over the m4, or any other stoner system which is great for “light” firearms, and armorers who knows the basics will agree with me on this (MP7 IS A STONER SYSTEM), make something like a bullpup or anything like this , the keypoint is study recoil COMPENSATION (more on it later) that would lenghten the barrel and lessen the weight of the whole system (which is already very light). The enemy will find out 5.56 is a better pdw caliber than a 4.5 or whatever I’ll assure you.And yes the 5.56 will stop bulletproof enemies , with MODERN recoil compensation will allow at least half of the ole m16 dispersion , and will perform GREATLY in short distances (real user on combat know that m16 is a killer on short distances normally more than a 7.62) .
Important: if you adopt a pdw expect a lot of them to go on heavy duty frontlines (see m1 carbine ). How are you gonna deal with a 4.5 mm caliber in that situation? We’re griping about the 5.56 mm , imagine a 4 mm deal!!
– work over the 7.62
Yes indeed we have found the best caliber for military use (not paperwork bullshit) and it’s the 7.62 period. It’s big enough to be modernized in centuries.Volume size and caliber are the best for the job. It touches until where modern optics can make you see (widespread use of optics made people see m16 faults) .But’s expensive and it kicks and shouts flames.
Changing materials to allow a less costy cartridge (less heavy too –new gunpowders, new metal procedures-?), and WORK OVER RECOIL SYSTEMS will provide the best small arm available at least until caseless stuff comes out.
Summarizing a modern rifle round:
7.62 caliber nato
–work over materials of the round
–work over recoil compensation and fast sighting.
Recoil systems (and fast sight acquistion) are THE FUTURE , who doesn’t get that shouldn’t work on new rifles, or at least will fail miserably.
Keep in mind both of the solution I proposed would use almost 50 years of materials and production lines already organized and expended, very effective way of improving the most important thing, such as infantry tools (at least in my opinon.….. media docet ) without feeling guilty.
About recoil systems, I could talk about this topic forever, and people that’s on the front will certainly agree, screw “round placement” reality IS different.Expecially with poorly trained youngsters.
It’s very funny the american point of view is wasting time and money creating tons of new ammo possibilities (6mm) that bring nowhere. And europe, offering some handy toish tools that won’t really be the best you get when the shit hits the fan.
Anyway, the thing tha bugs me, is that the site is full of people that talks about using guns under stress, and nobody comes out with the idea of KEEPING THE SAME PRESTATIONS that make you feel safe, WORKING OVER THE FEEDBACK OF EXISTING RIFLES AND CUT THE PRICE OF EXISTING AMMO so you get more rounds with an adequate punch.
I mean guys did you go in iraq or you just played videogames?
You waste tax dollars implementing system tha will grow thrash. Oh well, that’s the secret of american warfare right now, badly enough NOT ONLY on firearms but on MUCH MORE COSTY tecnology, spending money and trashing, get rich and disappear.….that’s a shame.We already have the technology.
So summarizing : MODERN RECOIL SYSTEM 7.62 rifle for frontline (more than 200 yards) ,
enhanched 5,56 system as pdw-close combat (200 yards) .… and smgs for specops.
That’s all for longarms.
Finally: we have reaced the peak of gunpowder ammo systems (guns included) development just after ww2 .… no need to work again over “new system” on case ammo, just modernize them. Use the remaining money on more
important things like social care and development of nature-friendly resources …
It’s a matter of mentality.
If anybody wants to talk on the subject go ahead, I’d like to hear armorers opinions or somebody who really uses the stuff. thx for your time, hope I DID upset somebody just to make people think.

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