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Home » Guns » Special Forces Say ‘No’ to M4 Barrel

Special Forces Say ‘No’ to M4 Barrel

If some­body wanted to really help the US Army, they would do some­thing about those God awful M4 car­bines that American troops are forced to endure.

This is a recur­ring theme in this blog, and I’m return­ing to it again because of yet more new infor­ma­tion that sheds light on the prob­lem with the Army’s standard-​​issue weapon for close-​​in fight­ing — which is exactly the kind of com­bat that is rag­ing in Iraq and Afghanistan today.

M4-web.jpg

In a rou­tine acqui­si­tion notice (see this link), a US Special Forces bat­tal­ion based in Okinawa announced that it is buy­ing 84 bar­rels for the Heckler & Koch HK416 assault rifle.

The HK bar­rels will be used to replace the bar­rels on their own M4s.

Why? Here’s what the notice says:

The 416 bar­rel “allows sol­diers to replace the exist­ing M4 upper receiver with an HK pro­pri­etary gas sys­tem that does not intro­duce pro­pel­lant gases and the asso­ci­ated car­bon foul­ing back into the weapon’s inte­rior. This reduces oper­a­tor clean­ing time, and increases the reli­a­bil­ity of the M4 Carbine, par­tic­u­larly in an envi­ron­ment in which sand and dust are preva­lent. The elim­i­na­tion of the gas tube … means that the M4 will func­tion nor­mally even if the weapon is fired full of water with­out first being drained. There isn’t another com­pany that offers these fea­tures in their prod­ucts. It is a prac­ti­cal, ver­sa­tile system.”

Translation: the M4 bar­rel is so unre­li­able that spe­cial oper­a­tions forces units need to swap it out with a bar­rel from a dif­fer­ent gun — and one that actu­ally works in real com­bat conditions.

One solu­tion is to sim­ply swap out the barrel.

But here’s another good answer: trash the M4s and just buy HK416s!

Christian adds:

For an out­stand­ing inves­tiga­tive report on this issue, check out my for­mer col­league Matt Coxs arti­cle on the bureau­cratic engine that is still pre­vent­ing sol­diers from get­ting what the best sol­diers in the world say is the best weapon for the fight.

– Stephen Trimble

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  1. adrianjaravata@yahoo.com.ph says:
    March 3, 2009 at 6:40 am

    i like H&K 416 rifle its accu­rate and reli­able and durable in against water dust and heat thanks to H&K

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  2. adrianjaravata says:
    March 3, 2009 at 6:43 am

    H&K its durable against heat water and dust thanks H&K more power.

    Reply
  3. adrianjaravata says:
    March 3, 2009 at 6:45 am

    H&K its durable against heat water and dust thanks H&K more power.

    Reply
  4. Wm says:
    April 4, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    Just use the Barrett 6.8 Round and the H&K 416. Cost cheep and we need Rifels not Jets And Ships.And what does boom­ing do? its on the ground and in the Mt. and caves they are in.Look at the boombs we droped in WWII and V.N. The Bang for the Buck was not good. It cost us lives as well, because the ground troops are left with out dated equip­ment. And In WWII they had the Tommy Gun and didn’t give it out for fear of Germans get­ting it and copy­ing it.I guess they still fell that.I didn’t like the M-​​16 in Vien except for the weight.But it mal­func­tioned to often and had to fuss with it to often.

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  5. matt maynard says:
    July 3, 2009 at 8:52 am

    I like this rifle i just wish i had one myselfe for my home and to go out and just have fun with it on the shoot­ing range. nice job men love it.

    Reply
  6. Azhari M. Babikir says:
    August 8, 2009 at 9:24 am

    Dear Sir,
    We would like to take this oppor­tu­nity to intro­duce our­selves to your esteemed firm. Forr your kind infor­ma­tion, we are a Kuwaiti group of com­pa­nies. Our group is spe­cial­ized in army, police, law enforce­ment secu­rity, spe­cial forces, land forces, and national guards logis­tics. At present we have big orders for your prod­ucts and we are fully ready to pro­mote and mar­ket your all prod­ucts in Kuwait. Again, we do have urgent orders at present. Therefore, we would appre­ci­ate very much if you could feed back to us urgently about your inter­est to coop­er­ate with us in Kuwait for our above-​​mentioned cus­tomers. If you feel like inter­ested in, we are ready to send to you our orders soon. it is very help­ful for us if you send to us urgently your elec­tronic cat­a­logues cov­er­ing your all prod­ucts. orig­i­nal cat­a­logues could be sent to our below address urgently:-
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    tele­phone Nos: 0096524729481/​2
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    P.O.Box 363 Code 13004
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    Safat, Kuwait
    Awaiting for your reply urgently.
    Best regards
    Azhari M. Babikir
    Executive Director
    Mobk Group, Kuwait

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  7. Rlone says:
    August 27, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    I never trusted the m16/​m4 while in. I kept it immac­u­late and it would still jam from time to time. Combat in the desert would be a night­mare. Give me an m14 with the EBR stock or the new Troy MCS stock any­day until the fig­ure out what is next. I would have pre­ferred an AK with some of the new acces­sories and attach­ments that are out today over at M16/​ M4 based sys­tems. I hope the next rifle is in 6.5 or 6.8 with a pis­ton sys­tem for relaibilty. FN Scar, Bushy ACR, Robinson , HK416/​417 or some­thing like those. We need to give the ground pounders the best avail­able.
    “Nunquam non Paratus”

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  8. jason says:
    October 12, 2009 at 7:05 am

    >(But here’s another good answer: trash the M4s and just buy HK416s!)it’s a damn shame this guy is a amer­i­can! he sounds like a ger­many arms dealer ready to sell his coun­try out at a blink of eye, hav’nt you got any amer­i­can pride the m4 m16 is amer­i­can icon you bum colt/​armalite or any amer­i­can gun maker can make the same gun but bet­ter i think than the 416

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