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> <channel><title>Comments on: Special Forces Say ‘No’ to M4 Barrel</title> <atom:link href="http://defensetech.org/2007/03/26/special-forces-say-no-to-m4-barrel/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/03/26/special-forces-say-no-to-m4-barrel/</link> <description>The Future of the Military, Law Enforcement and National Security</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:21:39 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0</generator> <item><title>By: Team 6 Member</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/03/26/special-forces-say-no-to-m4-barrel/comment-page-3/#comment-189748</link> <dc:creator>Team 6 Member</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:17:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2410#comment-189748</guid> <description>I served 2 tours in Afghanistan in 2001 &amp; 2002, and then served 5 tours back to back in Iraq from 203 thru 2008.  Trust me when I say this, The M4 &amp; M1`6 are junk!  I was fortunate to serve with Naval Special Warfare, and in 2004 I was allowed to use an HK-416 in 7.62x51mm Cal.  The 416 functioned flawlessly every time!  I jammed all the time with the M4, but I hardly had a jam with the 416!  Plus, the 7.62 not only gave me knock down power, it gave me punch thru power, because I was able to shoot thru walls and kill my enemy who was trying to hide behind the concrete walls which line every house &amp; village in Afghanistan &amp; Iraq.  The HK-416 IS the most effective weapon I have ever fought with.
The upper echelon in the Pentagon needs to stop listening to bean counter analysts and start listening to the soldiers &amp; sailors in the field that actually have to use the weapon they are issued.  To this day, I will NEVER, pick up an M4 again.  I will only deploy with an HK-416 in my hands, PERIOD! </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I served 2 tours in Afghanistan in 2001 &amp; 2002, and then served 5 tours back to back in Iraq from 203 thru 2008.  Trust me when I say this, The M4 &amp; M1‘6 are junk!  I was fortunate to serve with Naval Special Warfare, and in 2004 I was allowed to use an HK-416 in 7.62x51mm Cal.  The 416 functioned flawlessly every time!  I jammed all the time with the M4, but I hardly had a jam with the 416!  Plus, the 7.62 not only gave me knock down power, it gave me punch thru power, because I was able to shoot thru walls and kill my enemy who was trying to hide behind the concrete walls which line every house &amp; village in Afghanistan &amp; Iraq.  The HK-416 IS the most effective weapon I have ever fought with.<br
/> The upper echelon in the Pentagon needs to stop listening to bean counter analysts and start listening to the soldiers &amp; sailors in the field that actually have to use the weapon they are issued.  To this day, I will NEVER, pick up an M4 again.  I will only deploy with an HK-416 in my hands, PERIOD!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joe</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/03/26/special-forces-say-no-to-m4-barrel/comment-page-3/#comment-189441</link> <dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:14:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2410#comment-189441</guid> <description>Or the least expensive route would be to retrofit all of our M-16&#039;s and M-4&#039;s with Gas Pistons, since that is available today.Without changing the entire rifle system and round used, Gas Piston upgrade would be the most sound thing right now.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or the least expensive route would be to retrofit all of our M-16’s and M-4’s with Gas Pistons, since that is available today.</p><p>Without changing the entire rifle system and round used, Gas Piston upgrade would be the most sound thing right now.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Frank Hols</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/03/26/special-forces-say-no-to-m4-barrel/comment-page-1/#comment-186982</link> <dc:creator>Frank Hols</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:52:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2410#comment-186982</guid> <description>Only two companies in the world are qualified to do what Haliberton does - and the other one is French. Exactly how would you suggest we go about a &#039;multi biding&#039; procedure? Can you be specific on what the &#039;Haliberton scam&#039; is? I&#039;ve heard of some overcharges but that is pretty much universal with gov&#039;t contracts so why pick out Haliberton? Too many in America accept media stories uncritically - my guess is the whole thing is blown out of proportion as a way to attack Cheney. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only two companies in the world are qualified to do what Haliberton does — and the other one is French. Exactly how would you suggest we go about a ‘multi biding’ procedure? Can you be specific on what the ‘Haliberton scam’ is? I’ve heard of some overcharges but that is pretty much universal with gov’t contracts so why pick out Haliberton? Too many in America accept media stories uncritically — my guess is the whole thing is blown out of proportion as a way to attack Cheney.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Brian</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/03/26/special-forces-say-no-to-m4-barrel/comment-page-3/#comment-186980</link> <dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:02:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2410#comment-186980</guid> <description>The first priority is to get a reliable weapon to our soldiers.  The M16/M4 needs to go.  You can keep that thing as clean as possible and lubed but it will still fail.
The design is terribly old.  Every other miltary has replaced their rifles in the 40 years since the M16 has been around.  You&#039;re telling me that there isn&#039;t a better rifle in that time? The only reason we still have it is because that Colt and their congressional buddies have kept the cash cow going all this time.
I don&#039;t care if the weapon is made in Germany or in the USA as long as it is the best for our troops. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first priority is to get a reliable weapon to our soldiers.  The M16/M4 needs to go.  You can keep that thing as clean as possible and lubed but it will still fail.<br
/> The design is terribly old.  Every other miltary has replaced their rifles in the 40 years since the M16 has been around.  You’re telling me that there isn’t a better rifle in that time? The only reason we still have it is because that Colt and their congressional buddies have kept the cash cow going all this time.</p><p>I don’t care if the weapon is made in Germany or in the USA as long as it is the best for our troops.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jason</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/03/26/special-forces-say-no-to-m4-barrel/comment-page-3/#comment-158596</link> <dc:creator>jason</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:05:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2410#comment-158596</guid> <description>&gt;(But here&#039;s another good answer: trash the M4s and just buy HK416s!)it&#039;s a damn shame this guy is a american! he sounds like a germany arms dealer ready to sell his country out at a blink of eye, hav&#039;nt you got any american pride the m4 m16 is american icon you bum  colt/armalite or any american gun maker can make the same gun but better i think than the 416 </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;(But here’s another good answer: trash the M4s and just buy HK416s!)it’s a damn shame this guy is a american! he sounds like a germany arms dealer ready to sell his country out at a blink of eye, hav’nt you got any american pride the m4 m16 is american icon you bum  colt/armalite or any american gun maker can make the same gun but better i think than the 416</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rlone</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/03/26/special-forces-say-no-to-m4-barrel/comment-page-3/#comment-158593</link> <dc:creator>Rlone</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:54:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2410#comment-158593</guid> <description>I never trusted the m16/m4 while in. I kept it immaculate and it would still jam from time to time. Combat in the desert would be a nightmare.  Give me an m14 with the EBR stock or the new Troy MCS stock anyday until the figure out what is next. I would have preferred an AK with some of the new accessories and attachments that are out today over at M16/ M4 based systems. I hope the next rifle is in 6.5 or 6.8 with a piston system for relaibilty. FN Scar, Bushy ACR, Robinson , HK416/417 or something like those. We need to give the ground pounders the best available.
&quot;Nunquam non Paratus&quot; </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never trusted the m16/m4 while in. I kept it immaculate and it would still jam from time to time. Combat in the desert would be a nightmare.  Give me an m14 with the EBR stock or the new Troy MCS stock anyday until the figure out what is next. I would have preferred an AK with some of the new accessories and attachments that are out today over at M16/ M4 based systems. I hope the next rifle is in 6.5 or 6.8 with a piston system for relaibilty. FN Scar, Bushy ACR, Robinson , HK416/417 or something like those. We need to give the ground pounders the best available.<br
/> “Nunquam non Paratus”</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Azhari M. Babikir</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/03/26/special-forces-say-no-to-m4-barrel/comment-page-3/#comment-158592</link> <dc:creator>Azhari M. Babikir</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 14:24:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2410#comment-158592</guid> <description>Dear Sir,
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Executive Director
Mobk Group, Kuwait </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sir,<br
/> We would like to take this opportunity to introduce ourselves to your esteemed firm. Forr your kind information, we are a Kuwaiti group of companies. Our group is specialized in army, police, law enforcement security, special forces, land forces, and national guards  logistics. At present we have big orders for your products and we are fully ready to promote and market your all products in Kuwait. Again, we do have urgent orders at present. Therefore, we would appreciate very much if you could feed back to us urgently about your interest to cooperate with us in Kuwait for our above-mentioned customers.  If you feel like interested in, we are ready to send to you our orders soon.  it is very helpful for us if you send to us urgently your electronic catalogues covering your all products. original catalogues could be sent to our below address urgently:-<br
/> Attn: Mr. Azhari M. Babikir Executive Director<br
/> Messers Mobk Group<br
/> telephone Nos: 0096524729481/2<br
/> Mobile No: 0096599554390<br
/> Fax No: 0096524729480<br
/> P.O.Box 363  Code 13004<br
/> email address: <a
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/> <a
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/> Safat, Kuwait<br
/> Awaiting for your reply urgently.<br
/> Best regards<br
/> Azhari M. Babikir<br
/> Executive Director<br
/> Mobk Group, Kuwait</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: matt maynard</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/03/26/special-forces-say-no-to-m4-barrel/comment-page-3/#comment-158591</link> <dc:creator>matt maynard</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:52:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2410#comment-158591</guid> <description>I like this rifle i just wish i had one myselfe for my home and to go out and just have fun with it on the shooting range. nice job men love it. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this rifle i just wish i had one myselfe for my home and to go out and just have fun with it on the shooting range. nice job men love it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wm</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/03/26/special-forces-say-no-to-m4-barrel/comment-page-3/#comment-158588</link> <dc:creator>Wm</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:29:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2410#comment-158588</guid> <description>Just use the Barrett 6.8 Round and the H&amp;K 416. Cost cheep and we need Rifels not Jets And Ships.And what does booming do? its on the ground and in the Mt. and caves they are in.Look at the boombs we droped in WWII and V.N. The Bang for the Buck was not good. It cost us lives as well, because the ground troops are left with out dated equipment. And In WWII they had the Tommy Gun and didn&#039;t give it out for fear of Germans getting it and copying it.I guess they still fell that.I didn&#039;t like the M-16 in Vien except for the weight.But it malfunctioned to often and had to fuss with it to often. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just use the Barrett 6.8 Round and the H&amp;K 416. Cost cheep and we need Rifels not Jets And Ships.And what does booming do? its on the ground and in the Mt. and caves they are in.Look at the boombs we droped in WWII and V.N. The Bang for the Buck was not good. It cost us lives as well, because the ground troops are left with out dated equipment. And In WWII they had the Tommy Gun and didn’t give it out for fear of Germans getting it and copying it.I guess they still fell that.I didn’t like the M-16 in Vien except for the weight.But it malfunctioned to often and had to fuss with it to often.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: adrianjaravata</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/03/26/special-forces-say-no-to-m4-barrel/comment-page-3/#comment-26775</link> <dc:creator>adrianjaravata</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:45:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=2410#comment-26775</guid> <description>H&amp;K its durable against heat water and dust thanks H&amp;K more power. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H&amp;K its durable against heat water and dust thanks H&amp;K more power.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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