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Home » Strategery » Win Without a Win

Win Without a Win

Its the kind of thing that might be more appropriate to post on, say, a Sunday so you can read it with a mug of coffee and some time to think. But I didnt want this one to grow stale.

Though its a subscriber site, DT has a line on a few analytical pieces from the private intelligence firm, Stratfor. They can be a bit in the weeds at times, but this one is a big chunk of food for thought as it attempts to answer the fundamental question of why the United States seems to get itself in conflicts that end in stalemate.

The muddled result of the war in Iraq may not have been such a surprise after all, and, in some twisted way, may serve Americas overall purpose in the global war on terrorism though unintentionally Stratfor says.

Excerpts of the intel analysis follow:

In considering the situation, our attention is drawn to a strange paradox that has been manifest in American foreign policy since World War II. On the one hand, the United States has consistently encountered strategic stalemate or defeat in particular politico-military operations. At those times, the outcomes have appeared to be disappointing if not catastrophic. Yet, over the same period of time, U.S. global power, on the whole, has surged. In spite of stalemate and defeat during the Cold War, the United States was more in 2000 than it had been in 1950

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Put somewhat differently, there is the liberal view that the Soviet Union was not defeated by the United States in the Cold War, but that it collapsed itself, and the military conflicts of the Cold War were unnecessary. There is the conservative view that the United States won the Cold War in spite of a fundamental flaw in the American character — an unwillingness to bear the burden of war — and that this flaw ultimately will prove disastrous for the United States. Finally, there is the non-ideological, non-political view that the United States won the Cold War in spite of defeats and stalemates because these wars were never as important as either the liberals or conservatives made them out to be, however necessary they might have been seen to be at the time

If we apply these analyses to Iraq, three schools of thought emerge. The first says that the Iraq war is unnecessary and even harmful in the context of the U.S.-jihadist confrontation — and that, regardless of outcome, it should not be fought. The second says that the war is essential — and that, while defeat or stalemate in this conflict perhaps would not be catastrophic to the United States, there is a possibility that it would be catastrophic. And at any rate, this argument continues, the United States’ ongoing inability to impose its will in conflicts of this class ultimately will destroy it. Finally, there is the view that Iraq is simply a small piece of a bigger war and that the outcome of this particular conflict will not be decisive, although the war might be necessary. The heated rhetoric surrounding the Iraq conflict stems from the traditional American inability to hold things in perspective

Even in cases where the enemy was engaged fully, the United States limited its commitment of resources. In Vietnam, for example, the defeat of North Vietnam and regime change were explicitly ruled out. The United States had as its explicit goal a stalemate, in which both South and North Vietnam survived as independent states. In Korea, the United States shifted to a stalemate strategy after the Chinese intervention. So too in Cuba after the Cuban missile crisis; and in Iran, the United States accepted defeat in an apparently critical arena without attempting a major intervention. In each instance, the mark of U.S. intervention was limited exposure — even at the cost of stalemate or defeat

In other words, the United States consistently has entered into conflicts in which its level of commitment was extremely limited, in which either victory was not the strategic goal or the mission eventually was redefined to accept stalemate, and in which even defeat was deemed preferable to a level of effort that might avert it. Public discussion on all sides was apoplectic both during these conflicts and afterward, yet American global power was not materially affected in the long run…

This appears to make no sense until we introduce a military concept into the analysis: the spoiling attack. The spoiling attack is an offensive operation; however, its goal is not to defeat the enemy but to disrupt enemy offensives — to, in effect, prevent a defeat by the enemy. The success of the spoiling attack is not measured in term of enemy capitulation, but the degree to which it has forestalled successful enemy operations

The invasion four years ago has led to the Sunnis and Shia turning against each other in direct conflict. Therefore, it could be argued that just as the United States won the Cold War by exploiting the Sino-Soviet split and allying with Mao Zedong, so too the path to defeating the jihadists is not a main attack, but a spoiling attack that turns Sunnis and Shia against each other. This was certainly not the intent of the Bush administration in planning the 2003 invasion; it has become, nevertheless, an unintended and significant outcome

Moreover, it is far from clear whether U.S. policymakers through history have been aware of this dimension in their operations. In considering Korea, Cuba, Vietnam and Iran, it is never clear that the Truman, Kennedy, Johnson/Nixon or Carter/Reagan administrations purposely set out to implement a spoiling attack. The fog of political rhetoric and the bureaucratized nature of the U.S. foreign policy apparatus make it difficult to speak of U.S. “strategy” as such. Every deputy assistant secretary of something-or-other confuses his little piece of things with the whole, and the American culture demonizes and deifies without clarifying

However, there is a deep structure in U.S. foreign policy that becomes visible. The incongruities of stalemate and defeat on the one side and growing U.S. power on the other must be reconciled. The liberal and conservative arguments explain things only partially. But the idea that the United States rarely fights to win can be explained. It is not because of a lack of moral fiber, as conservatives would argue; nor a random and needless belligerence, as liberals would argue. Rather, it is the application of the principle of spoiling operations — using limited resources not in order to defeat the enemy but to disrupt and confuse enemy operations

I know its heavy reading for a Monday morning, but its worth considering as the Iraq war grinds on without any clear momentum toward victory or even success.

(Gouge: CM)

– Christian

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  1. Dave says:
    March 26, 2007 at 9:36 am

    What a great post!
    I had just gotten done reading the NYT, where things seem to be painted in terms of Red/Blue all the time, and it’s mentally refreshing to see a different color.
    Makes me wonder what the philosophical/strategic thinkers in the Pentagon are up to of late.
    Dave

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  2. Brian says:
    March 26, 2007 at 10:13 am

    I wouldn’t go so far as to say that this is a purposeful strategy, perhaps an unintended benefit.
    By not putting all our eggs in one basket, we limit the harm that would come from a true defeat. There’s no battle of Midway, no place where American power can be truly defeated. Of course, that’s not to say that we wouldn’t be in an even better position had we devoted full attention and resources and achieved a victory instead of a stalemate. Of course, there’s nothing saying we wouldn’t have started a nuclear war in doing so and been just a pile of radioactive ash, either.
    Things are never as bad, or as good, as they seem. It’s good to read an article like this that keeps everything in perspective. The War on Terror will not be won or lost with Iraq.

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  3. pedestrian says:
    March 26, 2007 at 10:42 am

    It only takes several nukes to win a war which the enemy will cease to exist. We could have been done it in Vietnam War, and against Iraq as well, but we didn’t. We decided not to.
    If the liberals want a stalemate on the war against terror, they will see another 911 tragedy on their own home ground. If their favorite former president Clinton wiped out Al Qaida in Afghanistan earlier in the first place, the liberals might not had seen a 911 tragedy. They will see it happen again in their own blue states.

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  4. Brian says:
    March 26, 2007 at 11:24 am

    There will always be another 9/11, pedestrian. It may take 10 years, 20 years, or 50 years. Or it may happen tomorrow. But it WILL happen again.
    Will dropping a nuke stop that? It certainly wouldn’t have been a good idea in Vietnam, or in Iraq. We don’t need nukes to exterminate the population of a third-world country. We could do that with our standard military weapons. The question becomes, when have you passed the point of reasonable force? No one will ever accuse me of being a dove, I supported the invasion of Iraq and still support it today. But we went into both Iraq and Vietnam to set a people free, not to kill them all.

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  5. Joris says:
    March 26, 2007 at 12:33 pm

    I think there’s some thruth in the spoiling strategy. But I don’t think it’s an really thought thru strategy. I think it’s more of a balance between the political strategists (thus also the ruling political party) and the militairy strategists (Pentagon). Sometimes it swings to this side and the other time to the other…

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  6. Dave says:
    March 26, 2007 at 1:05 pm

    We would have been better off bombing half of the Iraqi’s to kingdom come than letting thing draw out into this miserable stalemate. The only winners here are the Military-Industrial complex.

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  7. Brian says:
    March 26, 2007 at 3:29 pm

    Dave, the “military industrial complex” is getting funding cut on things like FCS and JSF to help pay for this war. Try again.

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  8. Solomon says:
    March 26, 2007 at 11:42 pm

    Every war that we’ve fought and tied (or lost) has been wars of discretion. When America is threatened, (and that has truly only happened during WW2, War of 1812 and maybe WW1)we are vicious . When others are in danger, we’re helpful– we’re kind but we’re not willing to sacrifice all. Thats why we tie or lose.

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  9. Kilo says:
    March 27, 2007 at 7:18 am

    Dave, the “military industrial complex” is getting funding cut on things like FCS and JSF to help pay for this war. Try again.
    Posted by: Brian at March 26, 2007 03:29 PM
    Gee… if only creating such instability in the middle east would cause foreign governments to increase military purchases from US suppliers they wouldn’t have to eat dog food out of a can.
    What decade was it that multi-national defense suppliers were solely reliant on a single product line and a single government purchaser for profitability ?
    Could someone find a decent player of the size that they are suppling shit like JSFs that is suffering ?
    LMAO.

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  10. Kilo says:
    March 27, 2007 at 7:32 am

    “If the liberals want a stalemate on the war against terror, they will see another 911 tragedy on their own home ground.“
    Posted by: pedestrian at March 26, 2007 10:42 AM
    Yeah. Or if the liberals don’t want that you’ll get nothing different. Or if liberals want immediate withdrawal you’ll still get the same thing.
    In all scenarios whether liberals want a stalemate or not this has been achieved without them having any influence over the establishment of this stalement whatsoever. Attacks on western targets by jihadists were sought even before a stalemate was apparent.
    Yet it never fails to amaze how many different ways liberals have undermined how occupying a hostile nation without a plan for occupation turned out. Or how waiting 4 years to implement a COIN strategy in a COIN operation turned out.

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