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Home » Bomb Squad » AQ EW?

AQ EW?

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Im check­ing on the accu­racy of the report, but I thought it would be worth giv­ing this story from Debka file a closer look.

I usu­ally take Debkas entries with a grain of salt, but I gotta tell you, some­times theyre eerily on the mark. Rumor has it, the site is a pub­lic voice for the Israeli intel­li­gence ser­vices, drop­ping hints to real or imag­ined threats in hopes of smok­ing out real­ity. On this one, Im only too happy to oblige.

Debkas lat­est post hints that al Qaeda is start­ing to develop its own elec­tronic coun­ter­mea­sures to U.S. anti-​​IED tech­nol­ogy. As has been reported on these pages quite fre­quently, the U.S. relies heav­ily on elec­tronic means to detect and defeat road­side bombs. It seems that AQ is get­ting in on the act pos­si­bly with Iranian help.

Soon after [elec­tronic jam­mers] were fit­ted on US mil­i­tary vehi­cles and went into suc­cess­ful use, al Qaeda came up with a device capa­ble of jam­ming and dis­arm­ing both US elec­tronic mea­sures by radio sig­nals. The Islamist ter­ror­ists thus esca­lated their chal­lenge to the US mil­i­tary by intro­duc­ing elec­tronic warfare.

Their suc­cess has boosted the US and British death toll in Iraq. Of the 50 US and UK sol­diers who died in Iraq in the first 9 days of April, 30 were killed by IEDs. Al Qaedas mys­tery device is believed by mil­i­tary experts to account for the soar­ing rate of effec­tive road­side bomb hits on American vehi­cles, even those fit­ted with the new counter-​​measures…

…al Qaeda is sus­pected of acquir­ing its advanced elec­tronic war­fare tech­nol­ogy from Iran, which also sup­plies the IEDs to Iraqs Shiite mili­tias and Sunni insur­gents. Tehran owns an inter­est in the suc­cess­ful per­for­mance of its weaponry on Iraqs bat­tle­fields and, most of all, in prov­ing its tech­nol­ogy is supe­rior to American systems.

The notion doesnt seem too far fetched. When it comes down to it, a lot of the back and forth on IEDs is a low-​​tech game: wash­ing machine timers, radio phone trans­mit­ters, garage door open­ers, cell phones. Maybe its not so hard to counter American counter-​​measures after all?

(Gouge: WaZinn)

– Christian

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  1. Nicholas Weaver says:
    April 11, 2007 at 9:27 am

    Firstly, call­ing the insur­gency “Al Quaeda” is defi­natly a tipoff to be sus­pi­cious. Likewise Iran coop­er­ates strongly with Shiites, but would be quite happy to see the Sunnis burn in hell, while Al Quaeda is a Sunni group. Thus any site which would con­flate the two must be viewed with sus­pi­cion.
    Second, it is a cat and mouse game which there are well known coun­ter­mea­sures to elec­tronic jam­ming: IR trig­gers (both “pass a point” trig­gers and line of site com­mand det­o­na­tion. Think remote con­trol), phys­i­cal trig­gers, wires, timers, etc.
    Third, the US EM jam­ming can’t be absolute, as the US radios still have to work. Expect radio-​​detonated bombs to con­verge into that part of the fre­quency space.

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  2. Grandjester says:
    April 11, 2007 at 11:28 am

    Yeah, I smell bull­shit. There are any num­ber of RF devices that can be used for a trig­ger across a pretty wide spec­trum of just the commercial/​civilian fre­quen­cies. Cell & Cordless phones, garage door open­ers, UHF, VHF, and so on. A cheap wire­less micro­phone might have hun­dreds of poten­tial freqs. Transmitter power on the Hummer would be lim­ited by both the poten­tial of inter­fer­ence and the power avail­able from the hum­mer, which we all know is already taxed. Any IED trans­mit­ter would only have to gen­er­ate a stronger sig­nal to be effec­tive. IF door chimes or line of sight devices would cre­ate addi­tional prob­lems for our attempts to defeat. We would lit­er­ally have to bom­bard the entire RF range with white noise at very high power (tens of thou­sands of watts) and the IR spec­trum with “light” to defeat all pos­si­ble sce­nar­ios. Very dif­fi­cult when the device needs less than an tenth of a sec­ond to receive that sig­nal. This is all strictly Radio Shack stuff too, you don’t need a multi-​​million $$$ ECM bud­get (or the Iranians for that mat­ter) to pull it off. Finally, any sort of hard wire defeats all these countermeasures.

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  3. US Marine says:
    April 11, 2007 at 12:52 pm

    How are you going to jam a jam­mer? I’ve worked with all those devices over there as an infantry­man, I’m not going to go into detail — but from what I’m read­ing here such a device would not work against what we use there. I hope they are try­ing such a thing though, because we could eas­ily tri­an­gu­late the source of any jam­ming attempt and elim­i­nate it. There are eas­ier ways to defeat the jam­mers we use, broad­cast­ing your loca­tion to every antenna farm in Iraq is not a good way to go about it.

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  4. Watching Them, Watching Us says:
    April 11, 2007 at 2:28 pm

    Surely any active radio jam­mers fit­ted to vehi­cles sim­ply give the enemy plenty of warn­ing to pre­pare an ambush with a com­mand line det­o­nated bomb ?
    With pas­sive radio direc­tion find­ing equip­ment, such vehi­cle mounted jam­mers could also betray the move­ment pat­terns of patrol or con­voy vehi­cles, over a large dis­tance, given the easy avail­abil­ity of portable com­put­ers and soft­ware capa­ble of plot­ting such sig­nals rapidly and auto­mat­i­cally onto a map.

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  5. Grandjester says:
    April 11, 2007 at 3:11 pm

    Again, the units on the hum­mers must be fairly low power (a 120 watt ampli­fier would use about 4 amps) due to power lim­its, plus not inter­fer­e­ing with their own comm gear. I don’t think it would be effi­cient for us or them to net­work the proper tri­an­gu­la­tion, espe­cially in an urban envi­ron­ment, but it may come to that.

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  6. pedestrian says:
    April 11, 2007 at 5:00 pm

    >With pas­sive radio direc­tion find­ing equip­ment
    You could also have that mounted on the vehi­cle and detect where RF sig­nals came from to det­o­nate RF trig­gered IEDs. The next sec­ond the IED is trig­gered, you get to know where the IED team is and they are dead. By the way, do you think the IED teams will be able to have access to those equip­ment for sure? They don’t need that in the first place. They’ve got scouts to spot the vehi­cles. They even used kites to alert vehi­cles nearby.

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  7. TrustButVerify says:
    April 12, 2007 at 10:14 am

    The story as linked smells of prop­ganda. In sim­plest terms, it doesn’t make tech­ni­cal sense; it’s either balder­dash or using the wrong terms to describe what they’re talk­ing about.

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  8. Ryan says:
    April 19, 2007 at 5:55 am

    I’m not even going to start on what’s wrong with this arti­cle. As soon as it men­tions AQ and Iran as part­ners I began to laugh. This author doesn

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