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Home » Fast Movers » Air Force Bomber Redux…

Air Force Bomber Redux…

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The next bomber in the US Air Force inven­tory should be stealthy and sub­sonic. It should travel 2,000-nautical miles to its tar­get and have enough fuel on board to get home. It should carry at least 28 500-​​pound bombs. And (sur­prise!) there should be a human pilot on board.

These are the con­clu­sions of the Air Force’s recently com­pleted analy­sis of alter­na­tives for a next-​​generation bomber to be fielded around 2018.

This is sup­posed to be a new thing, of course, but those spec­i­fi­ca­tions seem strangely familiar.

Anyone remem­ber the A-​​12 Avenger II? It, too, was a stealthy, sub­sonic, manned air­craft that blurred the bound­ary between an attack air­craft and a bomber.

Dick Cheney can­celled the A-​​12 pro­gram on 7 January 1991, just as the bombs started to fall on Baghdad dur­ing Operation Desert Storm.

True, the A-​​12 was con­ceived as a carrier-​​based land attack air­craft, but it wasn’t entirely a Navy bird. According to our dog-​​eared copy of Jane’s All the World’s Aircraft 1991–92, a “USAF A-​​12″ had been pro­posed as a replace­ment for the F-​​111.

The F-​​111 was designed to carry 24 500-​​pound bombs and travel 1,800 miles, and it’s not unfair to think the pro­posed USAF vari­ant of the super-​​secret A-​​12 would have been very sim­i­lar in capability.

So, con­grat­u­la­tions, tax­pay­ers: Watch the Air Force spend bil­lions of dol­lars over the next decade for an air­craft that General Dynamics and McDonnell Douglas very nearly deliv­ered to the navy and the air force 15 years ago.

Christian adds:

The Washington Post reported today the law suit between the gov­ern­ment, General Dynamics and Boeing Co. that fes­tered for years over the can­cel­la­tion of the A-​​12 pro­gram has been adju­di­cated in favor of the gov­ern­ments position.

The U.S. Court of Federal Claims upheld the government’s 1991 deci­sion to ter­mi­nate the com­pa­nies’ con­tract for the A-​​12 radar-​​evading plane, General Dynamics and Boeing said.

The “con­tract­ing offi­cer could have con­cluded that McDonnell Douglas and General Dynamics had ‘no rea­son­able like­li­hood’ of deliv­er­ing the air­craft on time as mea­sured by the sched­ule,” Judge Robert H. Hodges wrote in the deci­sion. McDonnell Douglas merged with Boeing in 1997. “We must again uphold the Government’s default termination”

The debate dates to the eve of the Persian Gulf War in January 1991 when Dick Cheney, who was defense sec­re­tary, can­celed the pro­gram, which was over bud­get and behind sched­ule. The Pentagon demanded return of the $1.3 bil­lion it had invested in the plane, and General Dynamics sued, argu­ing that the real rea­son for the can­cel­la­tion was that the Pentagon needed money for the war. No A-​​12s were ever built.

The case has been in the courts for years and became a sym­bol for the dif­fi­culty of can­cel­ing a weapons pro­gram. In 2002, the Navy told General Dynamics and Boeing to pay $2.3 bil­lion to set­tle the case, which the com­pa­nies refused to do. That demand included $1 bil­lion in interest.

– Stephen Trimble

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  1. Sven Ortmann says:
    May 4, 2007 at 7:19 am

    Why so many bombs? Just imag­ine — a min­i­mum of 100 air­craft needs to be built to really jus­tif a devel­op­ment pro­gram. 100 air­craft caar­ry­ing each 28 pre­ci­sion strike SDB’s … that’s enough to annil­i­halte the indus­trial capac­ity of a coun­try like Ukraine with one sor­tie of each bomber …
    If strikes were lim­ited to electricity-​​related indus­tries (pow­er­plants), two bombers were enough to shut down the indus­try of a coun­try like Ukraine.
    (I used the Ukraine to have a decent-​​sized, devel­oped coun­try as exam­ple).
    The bombload require­ment is exag­ger­ated imho.
    The endurance was the more rel­e­vant vari­able in the past years and there are still some B-2’s to do jobs like “hit 300 tar­gets within 2 hours while endan­ger­ing less than 20 soldiers”.

    Reply
  2. Sven Ortmann says:
    May 4, 2007 at 7:50 am

    sorry for the typos…
    jus­tify, car­ry­ing, anni­hi­late … embarassing

    Reply
  3. Hoax Meister says:
    May 4, 2007 at 8:20 am

    No, the next bomber the Air Force uses should focus on:
    –robust­ness, being able to be deployed to smaller bases with­out expen­sive main­te­nance or those B-​​2 pods
    –loi­ter­ing, with ground to air comm get­ting bet­ter and quicker it’s more impor­tant to have air sup­port on site than fly­ing around the world
    –comm, being able to effec­tively com­mu­ni­cate with ground forces is key. Sacrifice a cou­ple bombs for bet­ter com­mu­ni­ca­tions
    –mod­er­ate stealth, being stealthy is already cov­ered with B-​​2s, cruise mis­siles, and stand-​​off bombs.

    Reply
  4. DavidR says:
    May 4, 2007 at 8:50 am

    Very nearly deliv­ered?
    The con­trac­tors were far behind sched­ule, far over weight, and far over bud­get when the con­tract was can­celed. “Very nearly deliv­ered” makes it sound like every­thing was just fine until the mean ol’ gub’mint decided to can­cel the pro­gram just to waste the money.

    Reply
  5. Chris of Dangerous Logic says:
    May 4, 2007 at 9:06 am

    I con­cur with DavidR. I worked on that pro­gram from ’88 to ’90, and I can say with cer­tainty that we were nowhere near deliv­er­ing any­thing when Cheney pulled the plug.

    Reply
  6. Stephen Trimble says:
    May 4, 2007 at 9:32 am

    Yes, I may have exag­ger­ated a tad on the “nearly deliv­ered point”.
    The air force’s next-​​generation long range strike is not new, but a very delayed replace­ment for the F-111’s range and weapons load and the A-12’s stealth, is my point.
    That admit­tedly didn’t come through in my lit­tle write-​​up.

    Reply
  7. The Cenobyte says:
    May 4, 2007 at 9:37 am

    I hate to say it but unless we can find some­thing novel, and use­ful that we don’t have in bombers we have out now I don’t see any rea­son to design new ones. If we want more bombers great, just buy more of the ones we already have. Hell if we are talk­ing about close air sup­port being a rea­son how about some more a-​​10s (With the new updates they are good for so much more than they used to be), if you just want to bomb the crap out of some­thing from air­bases thosands of miles away how about B-​​52s, Cruse missles, B-​​2s or F-​​111s for that mat­ter. Can’t we think of any­thing that would be bet­ter servered with a com­plete redesign more than all the bombers we have to choose from?
    It seems to be more than any­thing else the US mil­i­tary needs to fig­ure out how to shrink it’s sup­ply chain. We need to use less fuel, require less equip­ment, and truck less water. How many peo­ple have died in Iraq just because of our require­ment to truck water and fuel all over the place?

    Reply
  8. Sunshine Goodness says:
    May 4, 2007 at 1:24 pm

    Isn’t the B2 a stealthy, sub­sonic bomber? I thought some­thing like, amuse me for a moment, a Y-​​Wing that can go into hyper­space, come out of hyper­space to drop its pay­load and then back into it. What I mean by that is some­thing that’s extremely fast and can slow down enough to drop the pay­load.
    But I’d like to add I’m not an expert on such mat­ters and prob­a­bly think you lot have guf­fawed your cof­fee down your fronts at such a notion.

    Reply
  9. SMSgt Mac says:
    May 4, 2007 at 1:39 pm

    1. LRS
    The para­me­ters tell me more about their plan­ning assump­tions tan any­thing else. And thus I con­sider this a Medium Range Strike con­cept.
    2. A-​​12
    Check out RAND

    Reply
  10. SMSgt Mac says:
    May 4, 2007 at 1:40 pm

    apolo­gies for the fat fin­ger­ing typos

    Reply
  11. murc says:
    May 4, 2007 at 6:33 pm

    What a waste of money.
    We dont need some bomber to scare China…(which is what the B-​​2 did to Russia)…cause we wont ever do a full on assu­alt on china…and if that actu­ally does happen…a slow bomber isn’t what would be used.
    A interium bomber like the YF-​​23 makes more sense…since it would be much cheaper…and be able to go around mach 2. Which would make more sense…whether your going after ter­ror­ists or rouge nations.
    11 years down the road…and they want a bomber thats slow and stealthy.…????
    It seems the AF doesn’t want any­thing new.
    What hap­pened to the PDE engine…that thing showed mas­sive amounts of potential.…there no way they would aban­don that tech.
    If they would make a YF-​​23 type of bomber…except ditch the jet engine, and go with PDE…they could have a high mach num­ber aircraft…at least mach 5.

    Reply
  12. Perplexed says:
    May 4, 2007 at 9:47 pm

    The USAF keeps search­ing for the holy grail of bombers, a bomber with long range, big pay-​​load, low radar cross-​​section, capa­ble of being used as a fighter and it won’t ever hap­pen.
    I pre­dict that within 10–20 years that air­borne lasers (on both sides) will cre­ate such a hos­tile air envi­ron­ment that manned air­craft will have a short life­time in the com­bat arena and that small, stealthy, fast RPV will dom­i­nate the airspace.

    Reply
  13. Paul Zimmerli says:
    May 4, 2007 at 9:50 pm

    A stretched YF-​​23, with a low­ered need for high speed, would be an excep­tion­ally easy answer to this need. For that mat­ter, an expanded, manned ver­sion of one of the A-​​12 deriv­a­tives now being built as UAVs, would be another — if ironic — pos­si­bil­ity.
    The con­flicts in Afghanistan and Iraq have pointed out one error of the “go-​​fast” gang: No mat­ter how many F-​​22s, F-​​35s and B-​​2s you buy, you will still always have a require­ment for a less-​​flashy, durable and depend­able “bomb truck” to put a con­cen­trated mass of iron on some tac­ti­cal tar­gets.
    Any “stealthy” Canberras wait­ing in the wings?

    Reply
  14. africanmuffia says:
    May 6, 2007 at 12:00 pm

    When is the air­force going to realise that manned bombers are not the way to go if you are look­ing for endurance? If they don’t then Israel (http://​www​.janes​.com/​p​r​e​s​s​/​a​r​t​i​c​l​e​s​/​p​c​0​6​0​3​0​7​_​1​.​s​h​tml) or worse France will have the capa­bil­ity sooner. Countries with smaller defense bud­gets could attain an edge in this area because of smarter invest­ment choices.

    Reply
  15. Brian H says:
    May 6, 2007 at 12:21 pm

    murc;
    I’m very con­cerned about these “rouge” nations. Are they the ones that go red when we’re not look­ing? Or the ones that give us rogu­ish looks?
    Just con­fused, and blushing.

    Reply
  16. JH says:
    May 6, 2007 at 2:43 pm

    Subsonic only sounds good to the bean-​​counters cause it costs less money. But I bet any­one that the Air Force would love super­sonic. That whole talk about prompt global strike can’t be just a lot of hot air.

    Reply
  17. murc says:
    May 6, 2007 at 10:57 pm

    Brian H — you know what coun­tries I’m talk­ing about…Iran, North Korea, Pakistan, syria, etc…basically a bunch of mid­dle east­ern countries.

    Reply
  18. ohwilleke says:
    September 9, 2007 at 4:08 am

    The A-​​12 was can­celled, in a nut­shell, because the tech­nol­ogy required to make it work was too much of a stretch to achieve on a cost effec­tive basis in 1991. The notion that the same thing might be less chal­leng­ing tech­no­log­i­cally six­teen years later, after a period of rev­o­lu­tion­ary advances in the sci­ence and imple­men­ta­tion of air­craft with new mate­ri­als, advanced avion­ics, aero­dy­namic inno­va­tions, and stealth tech­nol­ogy, is hardly a stretch.
    In other words, it is entirely pos­si­ble that Cheney, that bas­tard that he is, may have made the right deci­sion for 1991, and that some­body else may be mak­ing the right deci­sion in basi­cally rein­vent­ing the A-​​12 now.
    The tech­nol­ogy has arrived, although I seri­ously doubt that the mis­sion that its suc­ces­sor is designed to carry out (medium range, medium weight bomb­ing runs) really ought to be a pri­or­ity for the Air Force. The Air Force has the F-​​15E, F-​​16, F-​​35A, F-​​117, and A-​​10 for short range bomb­ing mis­sions. It has the B-​​52, B-​​1 and B-​​2 for long range bomb­ing mis­sions.
    It isn’t as if the long range bomber fleet is so over­taxed that it can’t han­dle a medium range, medium pay­load run from time to time. There is slack in the sys­tem to allow the big guys to run those kinds of mis­sions.
    For my druthers, I’d rather see a B-​​52 suc­ces­sor, per­haps mod­eled on a Boeing 747 or 737, than a suc­ces­sor to the F-​​111 and the A-​​12. If the medim range bomb­ing mis­sion were so vital, we wouldn’t have retired the F-​​111 long before any replace­ment was in place.

    Reply
  19. Jailcitykid says:
    September 19, 2008 at 5:47 am

    Finally a car­rier based air­craft in the class of a F111. Just like the F111 was orig­i­nally intended.
    Somebody inform Australia in a hurry

    Reply
  20. Gary Loftis says:
    April 30, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    Let me begin my remarks by estab­lish­ing my back­ground. I am a retired Air Force offi­cer with just shy of 2000 hours as a B-​​52 Radar Navigator (bom­bardier). I also served as Assistant Editor of The Air University Review and Deputy Director of Curriculum at Squadron Officer School. Bomber doc­trine has been a real, close-​​up con­cern for most of my adult life, so what I write here is more than just a casual opin­ion.
    A manned long-​​range bomber is and will be a nec­es­sary part of suc­cess­ful mil­i­tary oper­a­tions for the forsee­able future. Think of a bomber as long-​​range artillery that can dev­as­tate enemy oper­a­tions and logis­tics with great pre­ci­sion hun­dreds of miles behind the front, or in his home­land. While we are cur­rently involved in a guerilla bat­tle, to assume there is no great war in the future would be naive.
    That said, there are vari­ables that may or may not be nec­es­sary.
    Speed is impor­tant because it lim­its expo­sure to enemy defenses, but speed brings trade­offs. Greater speed means increased fuel con­sump­tion and, there­fore, smaller weapon loads and shorter range. Supersonic speeds dic­tate either smaller air­frame design (e.g., B-​​58, FB-​​111) or exotic mate­r­ial con­tent (e.g., YF-​​12, SR-​​71). Also, as enemy defenses become more sophis­ti­cated, speed alone loses much of its edge.
    Stealthiness pro­vides a mar­ginal way to defeat enemy elec­tronic defenses, but only until those defenses catch up tech­no­log­i­cally. It also is expen­sive, requir­ing cutting-​​edge (e.g., radar-​​absorbing) mate­ri­als and rad­i­cal air­frame design; the lat­ter makes flight char­ac­ter­is­tics very unsta­ble and makes com­put­er­ized con­trol sys­tems essen­tial.
    The most com­plex, and least val­ued com­po­nent of mod­ern bomber design is the crew. The more an air­craft depends on com­put­ers for threat assess­ment, weapon deliv­ery, and egress, the more lim­ited it becomes. In 1981, a flight of 6, 25-​​year-​​old B-​​52Gs (with 30-​​year-​​old defen­sive and weapons deliv­ery sys­tems) suc­cess­fully struck 48 sim­u­lated tar­gets at Red Flag, despite the state of the art F-​​15 and F-​​5 aggres­sors search­ing fran­ti­cally for them. The bombers were never located because human elec­tronic war­fare offi­cers were oper­at­ing jam­mers and defen­sive sys­tems in unpre­dictable ways. (I know this because I was on the lead bomber and was in the sub­se­quent debrief­ing at Nellis AFB).
    The abil­ity to apply cre­ativ­ity and inge­nu­ity to a sit­u­a­tion requires a human crew. Computers can­not cre­ate. Regardless whether the gov­ern­ment goes with speed or stealth, the min­i­mum require­ment for a long-​​range bomber is a live crew!

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