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Home » FCS Watch » Getting Greasy with FCS

Getting Greasy with FCS

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The Army has opened a $1-​​million engine test facil­ity for its $200-​​billion Future Combat Systems pro­gram amid Congressional con­cerns that the ambi­tious mod­ern­iza­tion pro­gram costs too much and fails to improve upon exist­ing weapons.

The test facil­ity at the Tank-​​Automotive Research and Development Center (TARDEC) in Warren, Michigan, includes sev­eral bays where engi­neers from the Army and from General Dynamics — one of sev­eral major defense firms asso­ci­ated with FCS — can install pro­to­type hybrid-​​electric engines and their asso­ci­ated gen­er­a­tors and put them through power loads sim­u­lat­ing use in com­bat. Hybrid engines are slated for instal­la­tion in the FCS manned vehi­cles, the first of which would enter ser­vice around 2014.

Major Scott Tufts from the FCS mobil­ity pro­gram office says an engine cur­rently get­ting a work­out at TARDEC will be fit­ted to a test model of the BAE Systems Non-​​Line-​​of-​​Sight Cannon, the FCS how­itzer, in August. A par­tial how­itzer pro­to­type mounted on an impro­vised, old-​​fashioned chas­sis is already under­go­ing fir­ing tests at Yuma Proving Ground in Arizona.

Before the 5.5-liter, five-​​cylinder engine can be installed on the how­itzer pro­to­type, engi­neers at TARDEC must map its per­for­mance across a wide range of power loads and in extreme envi­ron­men­tal con­di­tions. We can take the engine any­where on the power map. We can do start­ing and back­ing up, says John Srodawa, a General Dynamics engi­neer. Plus TARDECs test bays can be heated to 160 degrees Fahrenheit in order to sim­u­late high noon in the worlds hottest deserts.

The first engine to undergo test­ing has so far logged around 110 hours in the bay, in bursts no longer than three hours, accord­ing to Srodawa. But he says that test­ing will soon ramp up to full power for up to 10 hours at a time. The goal is to acquire enough data to map the engines effi­ciency. That, he adds, will help engi­neers answer the ques­tion, How do we opti­mize the engine and gen­er­a­tor so that they give us the best fuel consumption?

Despite test­ing progress, Congress has ques­tioned FCS sched­ule and goals. This month the House Armed Services Committee voted to cut $900 mil­lion from the pro­grams 2008 bud­get, say­ing that war expenses and an Army-​​wide main­te­nance back­log were more urgent — and that FCS dupli­cates some exist­ing Army capa­bil­i­ties. The pro­posed cut comes on the heels of the Armys deci­sion last year to defer four of the 18 vehi­cles and robots planned for FCS in order to save money.

But even if the House cut sticks, FCS would still get nearly $3 bil­lion next year. And Rep. Neil Abercrombie (D-​​Hawaii) from the House com­mit­tee says thats plenty for FCS to meet its 2008 goals, includ­ing full instal­la­tion of the first hybrid engine.

– David Axe

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  1. Max in MN says:
    May 24, 2007 at 5:58 pm

    A huge waste of money, in my view. We need a brand new fleet of M1’s, and Bradleys with updated armor, engines and weapons, but we don’t need all the lat­est giz­mos the Army wants to tack onto them.
    For exam­ple, when we were work­ing on the Crusader Howitzer at United Defense (before it was can­celed in 2002), the Army wanted the crew com­puter screens to be able to dis­play all of the infor­ma­tion from the vehi­cle, includ­ing ground speed, fuel on board, etc. The amount of money needed to cre­ate soft­ware to dis­play that data in the for­mat they wanted was just incred­i­ble, when all they really needed were old fash­ioned mechan­i­cal dials that would have cost a minus­cule frac­tion and worked just as well. We have a bunch of peo­ple in the Pentagon that always want to have the lat­est and great­est, but never seem to sit down and think “Is this really necessary?”

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  2. Max in MN says:
    May 24, 2007 at 10:53 pm

    My other objec­tion to the FCS is that many of the ideas are straight out of Don Rumsfeld’s “smaller, faster, and lighter” army play­book. The FCS envi­sions tanks that weigh only 20-​​odd tons so they can be trans­ported more eas­ily.
    Haven’t we learned any­thing yet from the dis­as­ter of another of Rumsfeld’s failed ideas, the Stryker rolling cof­fin? Yes, it’s smaller, faster and lighter, but it gets blown up faster too. The real­ity is that the tech­nol­ogy for tank armor that deflects weaponry as well as the M-​​1 tank but enables the vehi­cle itself to weigh only 20 tons is fan­tasy right now. Certainly it’s a wor­thy goal to pur­sue for LONG TERM tech­nol­ogy devel­op­ment, but com­pletely unre­al­is­tic to imag­ine it hap­pen­ing any­time soon.
    Rumsfeld had some fine ideas on paper, but he didn’t seem to real­ize that try­ing to make it hap­pen in a hand­ful of years was impos­si­ble.
    We are going to need the good old Abrams for a long time to come, I’m afraid. Some of the bet­ter ideas in the FCS that should be imme­di­ately pur­sued with vigor are the rail-​​gun and solid-​​state lasers mounted in both air­craft and land vehicles.

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  3. txzen says:
    May 26, 2007 at 5:11 pm

    Things that can save lives in the fcs are many. The Camera scopes to see around cor­ners. The Blue force tracker to show you who are your guys and the com­man­ders where all the guys are. And all the smart muni­tions and unmanned vehi­cles could really take sol­diers out of harms way and make them more effec­tive. Then the reports that the cam­era scope has a 1 sec­ond delay and the blue force tracker has a 1 minute delay. All work­able but things we would want bet­ter. Also what is the proof you have that stryk­ers are “rolling coffins” I thought they were doing well and I thought I even saw video of one tak­ing an IED and get­ting rolled and they later rolled it back on it’s wheels and pulled it away with 1 bro­ken arm from the crew.

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  4. txzen says:
    May 26, 2007 at 5:24 pm

    http://​www​.defen​sein​dus​try​daily​.com/​2​0​0​5​/​1​0​/​m​1​1​2​6​-​s​t​r​y​k​e​r​s​-​i​n​-​c​o​m​b​a​t​-​e​x​p​e​r​i​e​n​c​e​s​-​l​e​s​s​o​n​s​/​i​n​d​e​x​.​php there is a lot of infor­ma­tion as of dec 2005 about how well stryk­ers are doing in iraq. 115 rpg strikes with no pen­e­tra­tions, 0 machine gun pen­e­tra­tions, speed that lets them chase cars. Of course is also states it is not a bradley or a m1a replace­ment but I just don’t see the reports that it is a “cof­fin on wheels.” Some thing about they need bet­ter seat belts or the gun needs to be sta­bal­ized maybe, but noth­ing on that bad a level.

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  5. Max in MN says:
    May 31, 2007 at 7:01 am

    What about all the Strykers that were blown up by road­side bombs lately in Diyala province? If I were a sol­dier, I would want to be in a Bradley or an M1 rather than a Stryker any day.
    Listen, I worked on the crew inter­face design for the Crusader, which is being incor­po­rated into the FCS. I know a lit­tle about the FCS, at least as of a few years ago. There is no doubt that there are a lot of tech­ni­cal advances that are good things to have, and that the Army needs. The ques­tion is, what do we need RIGHT NOW? We don’t need the FCS, because it isn’t ready for prime time and won’t be for years. We DO need a whole new fleet of upgraded M1’s and Bradleys with IED resistant-​​bottoms and armor over­all, remotely oper­ated 50-​​cals on top etc, RIGHT NOW. Spending BILLIONS on the FCS when we’ve got Army repair depots filled with dam­aged and worn-​​out tanks and vehi­cles is a national dis­grace, in my opin­ion. These vehi­cles are badly needed RIGHT NOW by the Reserve units for train­ing here at home and by the reg­u­lar Army and Marines for fight­ing in Afghanistan and Iraq. Priorities is the issue.

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