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	<title>Comments on: One Answer to Hollow-Tip Bans</title>
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		<title>By: WinterNight666</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/05/one-answer-to-hollow-tip-bans/#comment-252172</link>
		<dc:creator>WinterNight666</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone wants to bash North America until they need assistance or help in some form or other. We&#039;re the first ones to offer aid when a natural disaster occurs, we&#039;re the first to come to the side of our allies when they ask for help, some aspects of our foreign policy may suck balls but when all is said and done, weren&#039;t we the ones who had airplanes fly into our buildings killing innocent civilians? I don&#039;t want to hear sheet about Hiroshima or Nagasaki, what about Pearl Harbor?? You don&#039;t think women and children were killed or wounded there by an Imperial Japan hellbent on world domination? France asked us for aid during Vietnam so we were dragged in there. Almost every armed conflict we&#039;ve been in has been deemed that we were provoked or attacked in one way or another. You want America to back off or back down? Simple answer, don&#039;t provoke a sleeping beast. Now, I believe that the Hague AND Geneva conventions should be approached with modern intelligence and principality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone wants to bash North America until they need assistance or help in some form or other. We’re the first ones to offer aid when a natural disaster occurs, we’re the first to come to the side of our allies when they ask for help, some aspects of our foreign policy may suck balls but when all is said and done, weren’t we the ones who had airplanes fly into our buildings killing innocent civilians? I don’t want to hear sheet about Hiroshima or Nagasaki, what about Pearl Harbor?? You don’t think women and children were killed or wounded there by an Imperial Japan hellbent on world domination? France asked us for aid during Vietnam so we were dragged in there. Almost every armed conflict we’ve been in has been deemed that we were provoked or attacked in one way or another. You want America to back off or back down? Simple answer, don’t provoke a sleeping beast. Now, I believe that the Hague AND Geneva conventions should be approached with modern intelligence and principality.</p>
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		<title>By: thorschariot</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/05/one-answer-to-hollow-tip-bans/#comment-206690</link>
		<dc:creator>thorschariot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually, the correct term is &quot;hydro-static shock&quot;.  a rapidly expanding hollow-point round sheds more energy in the target, thereby creating a large temporary wound cavity and sending a massive shock through the surrounding tissue. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually, the correct term is “hydro-static shock”.  a rapidly expanding hollow-point round sheds more energy in the target, thereby creating a large temporary wound cavity and sending a massive shock through the surrounding tissue.</p>
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		<title>By: thorschariot</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/05/one-answer-to-hollow-tip-bans/#comment-206686</link>
		<dc:creator>thorschariot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just curious, but what would you recommend as a combat rifle round? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just curious, but what would you recommend as a combat rifle round?</p>
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		<title>By: thorschariot</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/05/one-answer-to-hollow-tip-bans/#comment-206685</link>
		<dc:creator>thorschariot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um,&quot; These conventions were brought in to reduce suffering where ever possible.&quot; 
 
wrong-o reindeer lover!!   actually, FMJ bullets, the kind endorsed by this Convention, are designed to wound soldiers instead of killing them.  that way, you remove 3 to 4 soldiers from the fight for every one you hit, as someone has to carry the wounded soldier to an aid station, care for him, etc.   the  technology of 1899 was also drastically different from now. efficient hollow-point bullet designs didn&#039;t exist. 
 
and if you REALLY think that this Convention reduced suffering on the battlefield, try looking at footage from WW I  sometime.  it was fought with ammunition that stuck to this Convention&#039;s limitations.  no suffering there, right?? 
 
 
Read more: &lt;a href=&quot;http://defensetech.org/2007/06/05/one-answer-to-hollow-tip-bans/#ixzz0tmF67mO9&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://defensetech.org/2007/06/05/one-answer-to-h...&lt;/a&gt; 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um,” These conventions were brought in to reduce suffering where ever possible.” </p>
<p>wrong-o reindeer lover!!   actually, FMJ bullets, the kind endorsed by this Convention, are designed to wound soldiers instead of killing them.  that way, you remove 3 to 4 soldiers from the fight for every one you hit, as someone has to carry the wounded soldier to an aid station, care for him, etc.   the  technology of 1899 was also drastically different from now. efficient hollow-point bullet designs didn’t exist. </p>
<p>and if you REALLY think that this Convention reduced suffering on the battlefield, try looking at footage from WW I  sometime.  it was fought with ammunition that stuck to this Convention’s limitations.  no suffering there, right?? </p>
<p>Read more: <a href="http://defensetech.org/2007/06/05/one-answer-to-hollow-tip-bans/#ixzz0tmF67mO9" target="_blank">http://defensetech.org/2007/06/05/one-answer-to-h…</a><br />
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		<title>By: thorschariot</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/05/one-answer-to-hollow-tip-bans/#comment-206684</link>
		<dc:creator>thorschariot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it wasn&#039;t the Geneva Convention, it was the Hague Convention. 
 
but I agree that a 111 year-old agreement is pretty much worthless due to the advances in technology since it&#039;s writing </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it wasn’t the Geneva Convention, it was the Hague Convention. </p>
<p>but I agree that a 111 year-old agreement is pretty much worthless due to the advances in technology since it’s writing</p>
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		<title>By: Raraavis</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/05/one-answer-to-hollow-tip-bans/#comment-198800</link>
		<dc:creator>Raraavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t read all the posts so I don&#039;t know if this has been brought up but the US Defense Department has said they will not pursue any expanding bullets because of the possibility of International Bodies declaring the bullets illegal after the United States has spent billions rearming. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn’t read all the posts so I don’t know if this has been brought up but the US Defense Department has said they will not pursue any expanding bullets because of the possibility of International Bodies declaring the bullets illegal after the United States has spent billions rearming.</p>
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		<title>By: Zulu5oscar</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/05/one-answer-to-hollow-tip-bans/#comment-195731</link>
		<dc:creator>Zulu5oscar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan, you&#039;re writing in english, not german, russian or japanese...I wonder what country arranged for that blessing....certainly not the french. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan, you’re writing in english, not german, russian or japanese…I wonder what country arranged for that blessing.…certainly not the french.</p>
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		<title>By: Darkgent</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/05/one-answer-to-hollow-tip-bans/#comment-194610</link>
		<dc:creator>Darkgent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 18:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I refuse to get involved in euro bashing given that history shows europeans practice warfare more often than any known civilizations on this planet. The next time europeans want to bash American foreign and military policy, they need to recall their silence in permitting the death of 6 million Jewish people and countless eastern Europeans during  the last world wide conflict. Let he is without sin, cast the first stone. 
 
Warfare was never intended to be pretty or principled. The Hague Convention was an attempt to inflict reason and principles in an unprincipled human endeavor. That is why it is likely the US Senate rejected the Hague as unenforcible and thus pointless. I also side with the numerous comments that point out the legal issue of what rules apply when non-signatories engage in conflict. In such cases, the is no binding authority and as such each is allow to wage unrestricted warfare. For those that savor the majesty of law, laws are only binding upon contracting parties...period. 
 
Darkgent </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I refuse to get involved in euro bashing given that history shows europeans practice warfare more often than any known civilizations on this planet. The next time europeans want to bash American foreign and military policy, they need to recall their silence in permitting the death of 6 million Jewish people and countless eastern Europeans during  the last world wide conflict. Let he is without sin, cast the first stone. </p>
<p>Warfare was never intended to be pretty or principled. The Hague Convention was an attempt to inflict reason and principles in an unprincipled human endeavor. That is why it is likely the US Senate rejected the Hague as unenforcible and thus pointless. I also side with the numerous comments that point out the legal issue of what rules apply when non-signatories engage in conflict. In such cases, the is no binding authority and as such each is allow to wage unrestricted warfare. For those that savor the majesty of law, laws are only binding upon contracting parties…period. </p>
<p>Darkgent</p>
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		<title>By: Darkgent</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/05/one-answer-to-hollow-tip-bans/#comment-194609</link>
		<dc:creator>Darkgent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 18:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This entire debate about the Hague Conventions is pointless and a waste of typed space. The intent of the Hague Conventions was to reduce the extent of crippling and supposedly &quot;inhumane wounds&quot;. That trumps every definition of oxi-moronic I have ever read given the ultimate objective of warfare. Warfare is about inflicting force of will by armed confllict, period. It matters not how many folks you wound or kill outright, it is an inhumane enterprise. 
 
The mechanics of how one achieves these objectives matters little to the victim of this ignoble endeavor. Dead is dead and crippled is little better. Having been wounded and crippled personally, I took little solace in the minor distinction. It took me 6 long years to recover well enough to return to the profession of arms. Spinal wounds really don&#039;t care what mechanism inflicts the injury. To my mind, if I and my collegues had more lethal ammunition perhaps I would have never been wounded. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This entire debate about the Hague Conventions is pointless and a waste of typed space. The intent of the Hague Conventions was to reduce the extent of crippling and supposedly “inhumane wounds”. That trumps every definition of oxi-moronic I have ever read given the ultimate objective of warfare. Warfare is about inflicting force of will by armed confllict, period. It matters not how many folks you wound or kill outright, it is an inhumane enterprise. </p>
<p>The mechanics of how one achieves these objectives matters little to the victim of this ignoble endeavor. Dead is dead and crippled is little better. Having been wounded and crippled personally, I took little solace in the minor distinction. It took me 6 long years to recover well enough to return to the profession of arms. Spinal wounds really don’t care what mechanism inflicts the injury. To my mind, if I and my collegues had more lethal ammunition perhaps I would have never been wounded.</p>
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		<title>By: glen</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/05/one-answer-to-hollow-tip-bans/#comment-193689</link>
		<dc:creator>glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at the present time the russians use a rifle bullet that is designed with a void in the nose under the jacket. upon impact the core slides forward and causes the bullet to tumble violently. a clear volition of these treaties and understandings. yet no one seems inclined to take the russkis to task. some things never change   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at the present time the russians use a rifle bullet that is designed with a void in the nose under the jacket. upon impact the core slides forward and causes the bullet to tumble violently. a clear volition of these treaties and understandings. yet no one seems inclined to take the russkis to task. some things never change</p>
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