<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Chinese Cyberwar Alert!</title> <atom:link href="http://defensetech.org/2007/06/15/chinese-cyberwar-alert/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/15/chinese-cyberwar-alert/</link> <description>The Future of the Military, Law Enforcement and National Security</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:59:40 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Margie Mac</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/15/chinese-cyberwar-alert/#comment-163183</link> <dc:creator>Margie Mac</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:35:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3566#comment-163183</guid> <description>To think the Chinese hated Capitalism until they are facing starvation. Now it&#039;s a &quot;No holds barred&quot; to get what they need at the expense of the U.S. and the European market. I guess the cartoon with the Premier of China grinning ear to ear proclaiming that won&#039;t have to fight the U.S. &quot;They will own it!&quot; Pretty nauseating if I say so. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To think the Chinese hated Capitalism until they are facing starvation. Now it’s a “No holds barred” to get what they need at the expense of the U.S. and the European market. I guess the cartoon with the Premier of China grinning ear to ear proclaiming that won’t have to fight the U.S. “They will own it!” Pretty nauseating if I say so.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Margie Mac</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/15/chinese-cyberwar-alert/#comment-163182</link> <dc:creator>Margie Mac</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:32:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3566#comment-163182</guid> <description>To think the Chinese hated Capitalism until they are facing starvation. Now it&#039;s a &quot;No holds barred&quot; to get what they need at the expense of the U.S. and the European market. I guess the cartoon with the Premier of China grinning ear to ear proclaiming that won&#039;t have to fight the U.S. &quot;They will own it!&quot; Pretty nauseating if I say so. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To think the Chinese hated Capitalism until they are facing starvation. Now it’s a “No holds barred” to get what they need at the expense of the U.S. and the European market. I guess the cartoon with the Premier of China grinning ear to ear proclaiming that won’t have to fight the U.S. “They will own it!” Pretty nauseating if I say so.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dave</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/15/chinese-cyberwar-alert/#comment-163179</link> <dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3566#comment-163179</guid> <description>Wasn&#039;t that film about Foreign Policy you were referring to called &quot;The Mouse That Roared&quot; with Peter Sellers and the alleged &quot;Dooms Day Bomb&quot; About a small country that is destitute for money, so they declare war on the US and invade us with a hand full of (soldiers) and immediately surrender. The intent is to lose and then have the US come to their financial aid. But the situation gets out of hand when they produce this unstable Bomb and now nobody knows what to do.  Funny movie but probably closer to the truth than we realize. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn’t that film about Foreign Policy you were referring to called “The Mouse That Roared” with Peter Sellers and the alleged “Dooms Day Bomb“<br /> About a small country that is destitute for money, so they declare war on the US and invade us with a hand full of (soldiers) and immediately surrender. The intent is to lose and then have the US come to their financial aid. But the situation gets out of hand when they produce this unstable Bomb and now nobody knows what to do.  Funny movie but probably closer to the truth than we realize.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ed Camillieri</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/15/chinese-cyberwar-alert/#comment-163178</link> <dc:creator>Ed Camillieri</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:56:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3566#comment-163178</guid> <description>Years ago I was writig my Master Degree in Iternational Business ( Foreign Investment in the United States ), and through a lot of research I found that foreign investment into the the U.S. was controlled by the various individual States. Some States would not allow Foreign Investment at all, some would allow it if they could invest an equal amount in that country and others let any country buy what ever they wanted to. Now they are out-sourcing our work to thier counrty giving away alot of valuable infomation, methods of operation,killing our economy. Twenty years ago China and India to name a few were cosidered &quot;Backward&quot; now look at them. We train the people who come back to haunt us at a later date. I fully relise that we have many companies in other coutries Mc Donald&#039;s, Startbuck and other non technical companies, but does that equal what we are out-sourcing to them? I was relly bothered years ago when I was stationed in Germany. I found out that the U.S. had to lease the land the millitary utilized to protect them during the &quot;Cold War&quot; If you have never seen the movie &quot; The little mouse that cried&quot; you should. it gives a good in-sight into our Foreign Policy. I&#039;m not saying that our &quot;Foreign Policy&#039;needs to be adjusted it needs a majorhaul so that the U.S. wins and not loses in our approach to International Trade and Relations. We no longer have to &quot;BUY INTERNATIONAL FRIENDS&quot; because we no longer need their Statigic Mlitary Locations that WAS required during the &quot;Cold War&quot;. We have been trying to BUY RESPECT AND FRIENDSHIP&quot;, YOU CAN&#039;T you have to earn it. RE-THINK and OVERHAUL OUR FOREIGN POLICIES. Ed </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years ago I was writig my Master Degree in Iternational Business ( Foreign Investment in the United States ), and through a lot of research I found that foreign investment into the the U.S. was controlled by the various individual States.<br /> Some States would not allow Foreign Investment at all, some would allow it if they could invest an equal amount in that country and others let any country buy what ever they wanted to.<br /> Now they are out-sourcing our work to thier counrty giving away alot of valuable infomation, methods of operation,killing our economy. Twenty years ago China and India to name a few were cosidered “Backward” now look at them. We train the people who come back to haunt us at a later date.<br /> I fully relise that we have many companies in other coutries Mc Donald’s, Startbuck and other non technical companies, but does that equal what we are out-sourcing to them?<br /> I was relly bothered years ago when I was stationed in Germany. I found out that the U.S. had to lease the land the millitary utilized to protect them during the “Cold War“<br /> If you have never seen the movie ” The little mouse that cried” you should. it gives a good in-sight into our Foreign Policy.<br /> I’m not saying that our “Foreign Policy’needs to be adjusted it needs a majorhaul so that the U.S. wins and not loses in our approach to International Trade and Relations.<br /> We no longer have to “BUY INTERNATIONAL FRIENDS” because we no longer need their Statigic Mlitary Locations that WAS required during the “Cold War”.<br /> We have been trying to BUY RESPECT AND FRIENDSHIP”, YOU CAN’T you have to earn it. RE-THINK and OVERHAUL OUR FOREIGN POLICIES.<br /> Ed</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kim</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/15/chinese-cyberwar-alert/#comment-163177</link> <dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:38:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3566#comment-163177</guid> <description>It&#039;s more than just wanting the military to have their &quot;own internet.&quot;  The military uses a lot of civilian contractors and the Chinese are looking into their networks for data. Would those businesses be included in the military internet? Even non-military-contracted civilian businesses and industries have info that the enemy is interested in learning.  Would they be included, too?  Then, we&#039;re back to having everyone on the the same internet.  The Chinese (and other nations) are already buying up land in the US and are getting many critical jobs outsourced to them.  It scares me that America is getting fatter, watching test score fall, getting more and more into debt, and practicing so much in-fighting.  I worry that eventually, our country will be taken without a shot.  I hope not.  We live in a wonderful country and I&#039;d hate to see that taken away from us. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s more than just wanting the military to have their “own internet.”  The military uses a lot of civilian contractors and the Chinese are looking into their networks for data. Would those businesses be included in the military internet? Even non-military-contracted civilian businesses and industries have info that the enemy is interested in learning.  Would they be included, too?  Then, we’re back to having everyone on the the same internet.  The Chinese (and other nations) are already buying up land in the US and are getting many critical jobs outsourced to them.  It scares me that America is getting fatter, watching test score fall, getting more and more into debt, and practicing so much in-fighting.  I worry that eventually, our country will be taken without a shot.  I hope not.  We live in a wonderful country and I’d hate to see that taken away from us.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: lals</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/15/chinese-cyberwar-alert/#comment-163176</link> <dc:creator>lals</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:29:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3566#comment-163176</guid> <description>Hello, I just want to ask about what&#039;s the US military&#039;s doing about that situation? Thanks </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br /> I just want to ask about what’s the US military’s doing about that situation?<br /> Thanks</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Russell King</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/15/chinese-cyberwar-alert/#comment-163175</link> <dc:creator>Russell King</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:35:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3566#comment-163175</guid> <description>General Elder shows an unusually good grasp of Chinese martial doctrine in his comments: eg. Chinese want to be &quot;dominant without even having to fight&quot;: per Sun Tzu, it is the epitome of skill to subdue an enemy without fighting. eg. There is not much threat from &quot;terrorist initiated attacks&quot;: The &quot;terrorists&quot; are not &quot;non-state actors&quot;, but part of a network, &quot;Kill with a borrowed sword&quot; (have a &quot;terrorist&quot; masquerading as &quot;non-state actor&quot; do your fighting for you); eg. &quot;China is not interested so much in attack as they are in using the Internet to pull industrial data&quot;. Thus, cybersnooping (spying on and controlling enemy&#039;s computers) is preferred to cybersabotage (destroying enemy&#039;s computers), per Sun Tzu&#039;s admonition to take an enemy&#039;s state intact rather than destroying it. As with the Asian martial arts where one&#039;s adversary is controlled and manipulated rather than just knocked down or destroyed, the Chinese use the same tactics on us. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>General Elder shows an unusually good grasp of Chinese martial doctrine in his comments:<br /> eg. Chinese want to be “dominant without even having to fight”: per Sun Tzu, it is the epitome of skill to subdue an enemy without fighting. eg. There is not much threat from “terrorist initiated attacks”: The “terrorists” are not “non-state actors”, but part of a network, “Kill with a borrowed sword” (have a “terrorist” masquerading as “non-state actor” do your fighting for you); eg. “China is not interested so much in attack as they are in using the Internet to pull industrial data”. Thus, cybersnooping (spying on and controlling enemy’s computers) is preferred to cybersabotage (destroying enemy’s computers), per Sun Tzu’s admonition to take an enemy’s state intact rather than destroying it. As with the Asian martial arts where one’s adversary is controlled and manipulated rather than just knocked down or destroyed, the Chinese use the same tactics on us.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Thomas Gustafson</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/15/chinese-cyberwar-alert/#comment-62249</link> <dc:creator>Thomas Gustafson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:56:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3566#comment-62249</guid> <description>I hope that those in the &quot;need to know&quot; areas of our (USA) gov. are taking any and all threats seriously. Regardless if they are from a kid or a gov. sponsored terrorist. The Chinese are not to be fooled with! GOD bless the USA! </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that those in the “need to know” areas of our (USA) gov. are taking any and all threats seriously. Regardless if they are from a kid or a gov. sponsored terrorist. The Chinese are not to be fooled with! GOD bless the USA!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jack</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/15/chinese-cyberwar-alert/#comment-163174</link> <dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 05:14:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3566#comment-163174</guid> <description>To make it EZ for everyone who&#039;s having trouble... The military is doing a great job at fighting off attacks, because that is what we are TRAINED to do. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To make it EZ for everyone who’s having trouble… The military is doing a great job at fighting off attacks, because that is what we are TRAINED to do.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: American Garrity</title><link>http://defensetech.org/2007/06/15/chinese-cyberwar-alert/#comment-163173</link> <dc:creator>American Garrity</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 21:36:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3566#comment-163173</guid> <description>If anyone REALLY wants to get into a network, server, or anything, they will. Granted, we are talking about the US government here, but if a group of highly skilled crackers or hackers wanted to get into say, the &quot;FBI Database&quot; or some bullshit like that, they already most likely have. However, I am just some guy who knows very little about computers. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone REALLY wants to get into a network, server, or anything, they will. Granted, we are talking about the US government here, but if a group of highly skilled crackers or hackers wanted to get into say, the “FBI Database” or some bullshit like that, they already most likely have. However, I am just some guy who knows very little about computers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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