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Home » Info War » France Fears Blackberry Snooping by U.S.

France Fears Blackberry Snooping by U.S.

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(AP) PARIS — BlackBerry hand­helds have been called addic­tive, inva­sive, won­der­ful — and now, a threat to French state secrets.

That, at least, is the fear of French gov­ern­ment defense experts, who have advised against their use by offi­cials in France’s cor­ri­dors of power, report­edly to avoid snoop­ing by U.S. intel­li­gence agencies.

“It’s not a ques­tion of trust,” French law­maker Pierre Lasbordes told The Associated Press. “We are friends with the Americans, the Anglo-​​Saxons, but it’s eco­nomic war.”

Le Monde news­pa­per, which broke the story, described BlackBerry with­drawal among those who have given them up. “We feel that we are wast­ing huge amounts of time, hav­ing to relearn how to work in the old way,” the daily quoted a min­istry office direc­tor as saying.

E-​​mails sent from “Le BlackBerry” pass through servers in the United States and Britain, and France fears that makes the sys­tem vul­ner­a­ble to snoop­ing by the U.S. National Security Agency, Le Monde reported. The com­pany that makes BlackBerrys, how­ever, denies such spy­ing is possible.

Lasbordes, who was com­mis­sioned in 2005 by then-​​Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin to look into such issues, said he alerted the gov­ern­ment to this “weak­ness” months ago. He said he met with BlackBerry maker Research In Motion Ltd. to dis­cuss the prob­lem in the course of prepar­ing his report on the secu­rity of French infor­ma­tion systems.

The Canadian com­pany “admit­ted that there was a cer­tain fragility in the pro­tec­tion of infor­ma­tion when you use the e-​​mail sys­tem” and promised it would be resolved, said Lasbordes, adding: “That was more than a year ago.”

BlackBerrys pose “a prob­lem with the pro­tec­tion of infor­ma­tion” and “the risks of inter­cep­tion are real,” Alain Juillet, in charge of eco­nomic intel­li­gence for the gov­ern­ment, told Le Monde.

Research In Motion insisted that BlackBerry e-​​mails can­not be read by the NSA or other orga­ni­za­tions. The e-​​mails are more heav­ily encrypted than online bank­ing Web sites, Research In Motion said in a statement.

“No one, includ­ing RIM, has the abil­ity to view the con­tent of any data com­mu­ni­ca­tion sent using the BlackBerry Enterprise Solution,” the com­pany said.

The BlackBerry sys­tem has been accred­ited by secu­rity agen­cies in the United States, Australia, New Zealand, Austria and Canada, Research in Motion said, adding that a cer­ti­fi­ca­tion process is under way in the Netherlands and Germany.

In France, the cir­cu­lar on BlackBerries from the General Secretariat for National Defense applies in the­ory to all min­istries, and “it’s up to every­one to be respon­si­ble,” Lasbordes said.

Another offi­cial in a major min­istry who got rid of his BlackBerry fol­low­ing the order said author­i­ties are look­ing at other types of hand-​​held com­put­ers to use instead.

The prime minister’s office would not con­firm that it and the pres­i­den­tial palace were included in the cir­cu­lar, as Le Monde reported. But a spokesman, Severin Naudet, cited the General Secretariat for National Defense as say­ing that no type of hand-​​held com­puter is risk-​​free.

“It’s not a prob­lem if you’re writ­ing to your mother-​​in-​​law,” Lasbordes said. But “one can imag­ine a min­is­ter com­ing from a meet­ing of the G-​​8 or G-​​7, et cetera, or a meet­ing in Brussels, and he sends infor­ma­tion to his col­leagues. It goes via Canada and the United States and that’s it, game over.”

Suspicion goes both ways. At a Group of Eight sum­mit in Germany this month, White House aides were instructed to leave their wire­less e-​​mail devices behind, appar­ently for fear of Russian eavesdropping.

(Cross-​​posted at Military​.com)

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  1. Oren T says:
    June 21, 2007 at 6:24 am

    Yet Another rea­son why they Should be use­ing emoze to push emails to their devices!
    emoze offers a free mobile email solu­tion for thou­sands of mobile devices,
    includ­ing pocket pc

    Reply
  2. Nicholas Weaver says:
    June 21, 2007 at 7:42 am

    I sus­pect RIM is, ummm, play­ing fast and loose with the truth.
    The cen­tral server to black­berry com­mu­ni­ca­tion may be nicely encrypted, but they prob­a­bly have CALEA hooks or sim­i­lar.
    Worse, if the mail TO the cen­tral server is sent through SMTP, well, thats all in the clear. So yeah, NSA can have seri­ous fun with that.

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  3. Hoax Meister says:
    June 21, 2007 at 7:56 am

    Of course the NSA reads Blackberry email. And of course this infor­ma­tion is dis­sem­i­nated from NSA to Dept of Commerce to Boeing.
    Keeping Boeing going is viewed as a vital national secu­rity interest.

    Reply
  4. C says:
    June 21, 2007 at 8:35 am

    this is all very valid para­noia. of course RIM is going to say it’s secure, but there’s really no telling what the agen­cies are capa­ble of. there aren’t a lot of orga­ni­za­tions other than the intel­li­gence orgs that hire entire depart­ments of peo­ple just to fig­ure out how to bust encryp­tion.
    and yes, Boeing and Airbus are both con­sid­ered vital to the national secu­rity of the US and France, respectively.

    Reply
  5. HUKI365 says:
    June 21, 2007 at 8:39 am

    Australia’s DSD actu­ally can cer­tify Blackberrys for gov­ern­ment use. So I don’t know what France is wor­ried about. surely its a sim­ple mat­ter of get­ting their local Defence Disgnals Directorate to install a encryp­tion tool?

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  6. Nicholas Weaver says:
    June 21, 2007 at 9:34 am

    Just because it is cer­ti­fied for gov­ern­ment use doesn’t mean it should be used. Look at Diebold’s vot­ing machines…
    IMO such a crit­i­cal piece of com­mu­ni­ca­tion infra­struc­ture should not cross national board­ers if you care about your secu­rity. I think France is being very sen­si­ble here.
    Especially since I need to look into it fur­ther, but is mail TO RIM just through SMTP?
    If so, although the RIM Blackberry path may be per­fectly secure, the Mail RIM path could eas­ily be wide open. And the Blackberry -> Mail path is also wide open, becaues that goes back to SMTP at RIM before going onto the net.
    And given the uni­ver­sal tra­di­tion (France is notoroious for this, so I’d expect them to expect it of oth­ers) of eco­nomic espi­onage as well as espi­onage on allies, the Crackberries seem very dan­ger­ous for national secu­rity of non-​​US coun­tries because of the basic archi­tec­ture which routes all traf­fic through the US/​Canada for the servers.

    Reply
  7. ElMondoHummus says:
    June 21, 2007 at 2:02 pm

    “If so, although the RIM Blackberry path may be per­fectly secure, the Mail RIM path could eas­ily be wide open. And the Blackberry -> Mail path is also wide open, becaues that goes back to SMTP at RIM before going onto the net.“
    The answer can be found here:
    http://​na​.black​berry​.com/​e​n​g​/​a​t​a​g​l​a​n​c​e​/​s​e​c​u​r​i​t​y​/​f​e​a​t​u​r​e​s​.​jsp
    Assuming a Blackberry Enterprise Server is involved — that, admit­tedly is not a piece of infor­ma­tion given here — then the mes­sage is secured with end-​​to-​​end encrp­tion:
    “Data sent to the BlackBerry smart­phone is encrypted by BlackBerry Enterprise Server using the pri­vate key retrieved from the user’s mail­box. The encrypted infor­ma­tion trav­els securely across the net­work to the smart­phone where it is decrypted with the key stored there.
    Data remains encrypted in tran­sit and is never decrypted out­side of the cor­po­rate firewall”

    Reply
  8. Camp says:
    June 21, 2007 at 3:18 pm

    “War. War Never Changes.“
    http://​www​.youtube​.com/​w​a​t​c​h​?​v​=​_​m​c​J​A​I​6​o​RYY
    My guess, is their buck­ing for a pri­vate, or maybe pub­lic, Cackberry net­work to be setup in France. Eh, I could be wrong though.
    IT secu­rity is based upon ran­dom­ness, com­plex­ity, and secrecy… that is, until some­body finds a decoder ring in a box of Cracker Jacks.
    It’s all funny stuff, but C’est la vie.

    Reply
  9. campbell says:
    June 21, 2007 at 6:55 pm

    face it folks, every key­stroke, and every elec­tronic means of com­mu­ni­cat­ing is “break­able”; hence, inse­cure.
    period.
    the only ques­tion is the amount of time needed to break encryp­tion.
    not­ing beat a “one time pad” made of wax. old, but absolute.

    Reply
  10. ElMondoHummus says:
    June 22, 2007 at 2:19 pm

    “IT secu­rity is based upon ran­dom­ness, com­plex­ity, and secrecy… that is, until some­body finds a decoder ring in a box of Cracker Jacks.“
    Incorrect. IT Security is based upon set­ting priv­iledges, enforc­ing those as well as poli­cies, ongo­ing detec­tion of com­pro­mise attempts, dis­tri­b­u­tion and enforce­ment of secure prac­tices and encryp­tion of any­thing that is beyond con­trol of the sys­tem or net­work admin­stra­tor. If some­one tries to base their secu­rity model on ran­dom­ness, com­plex­ity, and secrecy, that some­one should be fired.
    ”…the only ques­tion is the amount of time needed to break encryp­tion.“
    That’s true, and with cur­rent encryp­tion stan­dards, that time equals cen­turies to mil­lenia. Not prac­ti­cal for real-​​time intel­li­gence, and for all prac­ti­cal pur­poses, unbreak­able within a human life­time.
    Look, every­one is hyper­ven­ti­lat­ing over inter­cep­tion of Blackberry traf­fic, and every­one doing it doesn’t know a thing about IT secu­rity. The *real* secu­rity hole is the device itself. Why bother wast­ing time try­ing to decrypt an inter­cepted mes­sage when the time­frame for decryp­tion is beyond my life­time? Why not just steal the damn device? **THAT’S** the real secu­rity hole: The end user’s prac­tices. That’s **ALWAYS** the real secu­rity hole. Not the infra­struc­ture in-​​between.
    The gov­ern­ments in ques­tion should worry about **that**, not about some obscure tech­ni­cal issue they don’t under­stand, and which can be addressed with prod­ucts like PGP anyway.

    Reply
  11. Tim says:
    June 24, 2007 at 6:55 pm

    A BES (Blackberry enter­prise server) has encrypted end-​​to end com­mu­ni­ca­tions to the Blackberry.
    So mort larger orga­ni­za­tions will have this.
    The BES is inside the orga­ni­za­tions net­work.
    The Blackberry itself uses 128bit encryp­tion on its traf­fic, and can option­ally encrypt all data
    on the black­berry with a dif­fer­ent 128 bit key,
    and will erase itself rather than allow repeated
    pass­word attempts.
    The only weak­ness there is a hypo­thet­i­cal trap­door to allow pass­word recov­ery from inside a snatched black­berry.
    Judging from the secu­rity pol­icy Australia’s DSD pro­mul­gate which turns OFF con­tent encryp­tion, I guess that if such a thing exists only US agen­cies know about it.
    The black­berry hard­ware has built-​​in anti-​​tamper and won’t run a doc­tored sys­tem image.
    Organizations can impose secu­rity poli­cies that enforce any or all of these features.

    Reply

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