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Home » Armor » Army Seeks Body Armor for New Threat

Army Seeks Body Armor for New Threat

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The Army has issued an industry-​​wide request for a new kind of body armor that can defeat even more pow­er­ful rounds than the cur­rent ceramic plate and has opened the door for the new armor con­struc­tion that includes flex­i­ble sys­tems many say are more com­fort­able than today’s vests.

The new armor insert, dubbed “XSAPI,” is intended stop armor-​​piercing rounds more deadly than the ones the cur­rent “enhanced small arms pro­tec­tive insert” can defeat, will weigh less than a pound more than today’s ESAPI and could have more cov­er­age than the rigid ceramic plates cur­rently fielded to U.S. troops in combat.

The Army’s lat­est solic­i­ta­tion — dated June 20 — marks yet another chap­ter in the ongo­ing debate over alle­ga­tions that the Army has ignored armor tech­nol­ogy that could yield more pro­tec­tion and com­fort than its cur­rent “Interceptor” vest. In May, an NBC inves­tiga­tive report raised ques­tions over whether a cer­tain type of body armor called “Dragon Skin” was stronger than the Interceptor — which is worn by most American troops in the field.

The NBC report — and the Army counter-​​attack that fol­lowed — gained the atten­tion of the top law­mak­ers on the House Armed Services Committee, which held a hear­ing on the sub­ject June 6 and demanded a new set of tests to prove once and for all whether Dragon Skin — or other armor using sim­i­lar tech­nol­ogy — was bet­ter than Interceptor.

Dragon Skin employs a flex­i­ble sys­tem of inter­lock­ing ceramic disks that the man­u­fac­turer, Fresno, Calif.-based Pinnacle Armor, says is more com­fort­able and can endure more rifle shots than Interceptor. The ESAPI employs a series of rigid ceramic plates inserted into the front, back and sides of the Interceptor “outer tac­ti­cal vest.”

After the con­gres­sional hear­ing, the Army revised its ear­lier May 27 request for new armor to test, adding the XSAPI specs and open­ing the offer to flex­i­ble, or “scalar,” sys­tems. The Army also extended the period for man­u­fac­tur­ers to sub­mit their pro­pos­als by 30 days — until the end of August — a move con­gres­sional staffers say will give Pinnacle plenty of time to sub­mit the vests needed for testing.

“The Army seems to be accom­mo­dat­ing Pinnacle as far as it can,” a top House Armed Services Committee aide told Defense Tech.

The Army declined to com­ment on the new XSAPI require­ment or on upcom­ing tests until after the ser­vice has deter­mined a con­tract winner.

Pinnacle pres­i­dent Murray Neal faced sharp ques­tions from skep­ti­cal Armed Services Committee mem­bers dur­ing the June 6 hear­ing, many of whom won­dered how ear­lier Army tests that showed mas­sive fail­ures of Dragon Skin could jibe with the NBC report and Neal’s own con­tention that the gov­ern­ment tests were inac­cu­rate or rigged.

Neal demanded another “inde­pen­dent” test of his armor with out­side gov­ern­ment observers who could ver­ify the truth­ful­ness of the Army evaluation.

“I would like to rec­om­mend that the Army Test Center facil­ity located in Aberdeen, Md., be used. It is inde­pen­dent of all par­ties [and] is the only [Pentagon] over­sight bal­lis­tic lab­o­ra­tory capa­ble of doing such test­ing left in the U.S.,” Neal said in a recent let­ter sent to Defense Secretary Robert Gates.
Download Neal’s letter

“My com­pany stands ready to coop­er­ate in any rea­son­able man­ner with your staff and des­ig­nated agents when they begin the process that will result in the requested com­pre­hen­sive tech­ni­cal assessment.”

The Army acqui­esced, writ­ing in a June 22 let­ter to top Armed Services law­mak­ers in the House and Senate that both flex­i­ble and rigid ESAPI and XSAPI armor would be tested at Aberdeen and would include offi­cials from the Operational Test and Evaluation office of the Pentagon.

In an effort Army offi­cials have said was designed to deflect crit­i­cism that armor tests at Aberdeen could be rigged in their favor, the ser­vice has con­ducted most of its bal­lis­tic body armor eval­u­a­tions at H.P. White labs, a civilian-​​run bal­lis­tic test facil­ity in Street, Md.

“All poten­tial body armor sup­pli­ers, includ­ing Pinnacle Armor, are wel­come to com­pete,” act­ing Army Secretary Pete Geren wrote law­mak­ers. “Pinnacle Armor has never sub­mit­ted a pro­posal for a U.S. Army body armor solic­i­ta­tion. However, the U.S. Army stands ready to fairly eval­u­ate their prod­uct and all prod­ucts in response to the cur­rent solic­i­ta­tion.“
Download Geren’s letters

The House com­mit­tee aide added that rep­re­sen­ta­tives of the Government Accountability Office — the inves­tiga­tive arm of Congress — would also be present at the tests, sat­is­fy­ing law­mak­ers’ desire for oversight.

The new armor solic­i­ta­tion also makes good on the Army claim that the ser­vice is always look­ing for new ways to pro­tect its troops from enemy threats that con­tinue to grow in sophis­ti­ca­tion and lethal­ity. In late 2005, Army and Marine offi­cials were shocked to find ear­lier ver­sions of their rifle-​​defeating plates pen­e­trated by a type of armor-​​piercing round pre­vi­ously unseen in Iraq.

Both the Army and Marine Corps moved quickly to strengthen their plates, field­ing hun­dreds of thou­sands of ESAPIs within months.

The call for XSAPI tech­nol­ogy raises the bar on armor pro­tec­tion offered to Army troops by pro­vid­ing a vest that can resist both 7.62mm and 5.56mm rounds with veloc­i­ties much higher than the ESAPI and bul­lets with con­struc­tion that might pen­e­trate cur­rent plates, the Army says.

– Christian Lowe

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  1. campbell says:
    June 27, 2007 at 1:34 pm

    a set of body armour, of any strength, only pro­tects the indi­vid­ual body of the per­son wear­ing it.….….but “eyes” pro­tect many more. what is needed is NOT more body armour, it is a thou­sand­fold increase in the capa­bil­ity to detect poten­tial threats, many, at increased dis­tances, beyond or behind cover, through camoflage, at night, in bad weather, etc.
    This allows friendly forces to oper­ate WITHOUT ARMOUR!!!.…making them more mobile, more com­fort­able, more able to address threats.…..
    when you can see some­one aim­ing a weapon at you, you no longer have to sit in his sights!
    there is absolutely no rea­son in this age of sim­ple cell phone cam­eras and UAVs to be allow­ing any­one, any­where, the abil­ity to train a weapon on our peo­ple with­out being detected
    Pass, on armour altogether.……get more eyes.

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  2. Jeff says:
    June 27, 2007 at 8:46 pm

    Curious phi­los­o­phy! Billions for tar­gets, but not a penny for bullet-​​proof plates. This “smells” remark­ably like the “vir­tual fence” along our south­ern bor­der.
    I pro­pose an alter­nate phi­los­o­phy. (And yes I am a fan of sci-​​fi.) The camo armor of the Star Wars Stormtrooper, a fully head to toe sys­tem. Then thou­sands of troops wear­ing them.
    I am in favor of the Army advanc­ing their body armor.
    The Air Force can bomb. The Navy can bom­bard. But it takes a Soldier or Marine to take the ground.
    for­mer Sailor; CTR1(SW)

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  3. BT says:
    June 27, 2007 at 10:11 pm

    I’d have to agree. The offense/​defense armor race is not the best use of resources; law of dimin­ish­ing returns, until a break­through occurs.
    What’s next, SAPI plates to defeat 12.7mmAPI?
    More eyes are needed, human and/​or tech­no­log­i­cal. I’d still like to see 100,000 Predator B’s or giant armed Airships, pro­vid­ing real-​​time CAS. That is needed to counter the insurgent’s hit and run/​hide tac­tics.
    The only thing that is needed right now is Level 4 bal­lis­tic helmets.

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  4. Chris Taggart says:
    June 28, 2007 at 3:39 pm

    Well Military I have that tech­nol­ogy now and I have the Level IV cer­ti­fi­ca­tions to prove it. I can mass pro­duce these for you but I want no beau­cracy –just help —I am proud of this achieve­ment and love doing it…$$$ is not this issue I make fairly good money as a machin­ist so call me and let me start the process going and save lives and limbs ;thank you.
    Sincerely:Chris Taggart
    Director-​​CombatBodyArmor Co.

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  5. Demophilus says:
    June 29, 2007 at 9:51 pm

    On the “get more eyes” front, I gotta tell ya, I don’t know about that. Assuming that omnipo­tence is fea­si­ble doesn’t seem the right way to start the pro­cure­ment cycle.
    Letting Jo Snuffy know that you care about the integrity of his/​her body seems to be a pretty good play by com­par­i­son, of only for pur­poses of morale. Seems to be more prac­ti­cal than achiev­ing omnipo­tence, IMHO.
    On soft/​flexible armor, the Dragon Skin mini-​​plates are ver­sion 1.0. IMHO, we really need to look at shear thick­en­ing fluid appli­ca­tions. DT has posted on them before.
    I don’t think first gen STF apps will be bet­ter than plates. No way. But there’s a lot of poten­tial there.
    If you could pro­duce small ceramic par­ti­cles or struc­tures like the inter­lock­ing con­crete mod­ules we build break­wa­ters out of, then sus­pend them in a shear thick­en­ing fluid or putty, you’d have some­thing that’s flex­i­ble to slow stresses (walk­ing, stand­ing, sit­ting) that would turn into con­crete under a com­pres­sive stress (bul­lets, shrap or blast).
    Of course, you’d end up look­ing like you were wear­ing a catcher’s chest pro­tec­tor, all over, and/​or a snow­mo­bile suit. You might end up look­ing like the Michelin Man. That might not work.
    Probably be hot as a bas­tard, too. ‘Course, that might not be a prob­lem in the win­ter, in the hills of North Korea, or Afghanistan, or Iran.
    Well, shit — maybe we do need more eyes.

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  6. Beck says:
    July 2, 2007 at 1:54 am

    I under­stand the impor­tance of pro­tect­ing our troops with body armor, but can some­one please tell me Why do we buy the cheap­est plates we can find? I have served in Iraq and Afghanistan upon get­ting out of ser­vice I started to work for a com­pany called Morgan AM&T whom makes the Sapi plates.
    I will tell you this, if I were to go back to com­bat I would refuse to wear this to save my life after what I have seen!
    Why does the gov­ern­ment buy from Morgan AM&T? Because they have the cheap­est prod­uct than any other com­pany that makes the Sapi and includ­ing the Side Plates.
    How does one explain to a sol­dier they are wear­ing some­thing paid by the low­est bidder!

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  7. patriot says:
    July 31, 2007 at 10:17 pm

    again, take a look at SFTT​.org, appar­ently ARL, in Maryland tested two DS vests about 3 weeks ago. These tests fol­lowed FAT pro­to­col for a “high temp” test. The num­ber of shot and place­ment of the shots for these vests actu­ally exceeded ESAPI spec­i­fi­ca­tion. It is prob­a­bly also note­wor­thy to men­tion that every sin­gle round was defeated, and yes they did use 7.62 x63mm AP2 rounds. The Army is going to have a lot of explain­ing to do. See the fol­low­ing link for more specifics on this story:
    http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=Unlisted%202007%2edb&command=viewone&id=33

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  8. William says:
    August 26, 2007 at 5:05 pm

    ROFLOL, you make me laugh, with your com­ment about the army hav­ing a lot of explain­ing to do. ARL shot a cou­ple of vests, big deal, has Dragon Skin been made lighter yet? Didn’t think so, no need to answer that one. Since it is impos­si­ble to make Dragon Skin work at the same weight as cur­rent armor. Pinnacle expects you to accept the addi­tional weight as being unim­por­tant, but it is the main crux of the argu­ment.
    Murray is a mas­ter of spin, and has the com­mon idiot fol­low­ing along like the rats of the pied piper. LOL

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  9. William says:
    August 26, 2007 at 5:12 pm

    Beck, please tell us the model of Ferrari you bought last? I guess you don’t deserve the best car out there do you? I guess that bud­get does come into play, and require­ments do also. Let’s see, wife and kids, I guess the elim­i­nates the Corvette, don’t have the money for an Escalade, so I guess we will have to set­tle for the Ford Explorer. Any clearer to you yet?

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  10. Al Bain says:
    December 20, 2007 at 9:12 am

    Actually Dragon Skin cer­maic discs do not inter­lock at all.

    Reply
  11. Kaleb says:
    November 20, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    NUKE THEM IF THAT’S THE ONLY WAY OF ENDING THIS CHAOTIC WAR!!!!… Yes we have bean threaten from many country’s that if we send off any nuked a nukeulier war train reac­tion will start with many coun­tries BUT WE NEED TO END THIS WAR FOR WE DON’T SPEND EVEN MORE MONEY THAT WHAT WE ARE ALREADY SPENDING THEN TOO DETECT A SNIPER WHICH WE PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE KNOW THAT THE “GOVERNMENT” ALREADY HAS A DEVICE SECRETLY HOLDING ON TOO IT THAT THEY HIDE ALL SORTS OF SECRETS FROM all cit­i­zens of America If you don’t get it THE GOVERNMENT HAVE THINGS THAT CAN END THIS WAR BUT AFRAID TO USE IT. WE PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE ARMOR THAT COVERS OUR BODY WITH METAL. All who served in the mil­i­tary i love you all and i hope you all make it back safley and kick some ass!

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