Comments on: Army Seeks Body Armor for New Threat

By: Kaleb

Kaleb — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:52:30 +0000

NUKE THEM IF THAT’S THE ONLY WAY OF ENDING THIS CHAOTIC WAR!!!!… Yes we have bean threaten from many country’s that if we send off any nuked a nukeulier war train reaction will start with many countries BUT WE NEED TO END THIS WAR FOR WE DON’T SPEND EVEN MORE MONEY THAT WHAT WE ARE ALREADY SPENDING THEN TOO DETECT A SNIPER WHICH WE PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE KNOW THAT THE “GOVERNMENT” ALREADY HAS A DEVICE SECRETLY HOLDING ON TOO IT THAT THEY HIDE ALL SORTS OF SECRETS FROM all citizens of America If you don’t get it THE GOVERNMENT HAVE THINGS THAT CAN END THIS WAR BUT AFRAID TO USE IT. WE PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE ARMOR THAT COVERS OUR BODY WITH METAL. All who served in the military i love you all and i hope you all make it back safley and kick some ass!

By: Al Bain

Al Bain — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:12:22 +0000

Actually Dragon Skin cermaic discs do not interlock at all.

By: William

William — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 22:12:14 +0000

Beck, please tell us the model of Ferrari you bought last? I guess you don’t deserve the best car out there do you? I guess that budget does come into play, and requirements do also. Let’s see, wife and kids, I guess the eliminates the Corvette, don’t have the money for an Escalade, so I guess we will have to settle for the Ford Explorer. Any clearer to you yet?

By: William

William — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 22:05:06 +0000

ROFLOL, you make me laugh, with your comment about the army having a lot of explaining to do. ARL shot a couple of vests, big deal, has Dragon Skin been made lighter yet? Didn’t think so, no need to answer that one. Since it is impossible to make Dragon Skin work at the same weight as current armor. Pinnacle expects you to accept the additional weight as being unimportant, but it is the main crux of the argument.
Murray is a master of spin, and has the common idiot following along like the rats of the pied piper. LOL

By: patriot

patriot — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:17:41 +0000

again, take a look at SFTT.org, apparently ARL, in Maryland tested two DS vests about 3 weeks ago. These tests followed FAT protocol for a “high temp” test. The number of shot and placement of the shots for these vests actually exceeded ESAPI specification. It is probably also noteworthy to mention that every single round was defeated, and yes they did use 7.62 x63mm AP2 rounds. The Army is going to have a lot of explaining to do. See the following link for more specifics on this story:
http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=Unlisted%202007%2edb&command=viewone&id=33

By: Beck

Beck — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 06:54:32 +0000

I understand the importance of protecting our troops with body armor, but can someone please tell me Why do we buy the cheapest plates we can find? I have served in Iraq and Afghanistan upon getting out of service I started to work for a company called Morgan AM&T whom makes the Sapi plates.
I will tell you this, if I were to go back to combat I would refuse to wear this to save my life after what I have seen!
Why does the government buy from Morgan AM&T? Because they have the cheapest product than any other company that makes the Sapi and including the Side Plates.
How does one explain to a soldier they are wearing something paid by the lowest bidder!

By: Demophilus

Demophilus — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 02:51:54 +0000

On the “get more eyes” front, I gotta tell ya, I don’t know about that. Assuming that omnipotence is feasible doesn’t seem the right way to start the procurement cycle.
Letting Jo Snuffy know that you care about the integrity of his/her body seems to be a pretty good play by comparison, of only for purposes of morale. Seems to be more practical than achieving omnipotence, IMHO.
On soft/flexible armor, the Dragon Skin mini-plates are version 1.0. IMHO, we really need to look at shear thickening fluid applications. DT has posted on them before.
I don’t think first gen STF apps will be better than plates. No way. But there’s a lot of potential there.
If you could produce small ceramic particles or structures like the interlocking concrete modules we build breakwaters out of, then suspend them in a shear thickening fluid or putty, you’d have something that’s flexible to slow stresses (walking, standing, sitting) that would turn into concrete under a compressive stress (bullets, shrap or blast).
Of course, you’d end up looking like you were wearing a catcher’s chest protector, all over, and/or a snowmobile suit. You might end up looking like the Michelin Man. That might not work.
Probably be hot as a bastard, too. ‘Course, that might not be a problem in the winter, in the hills of North Korea, or Afghanistan, or Iran.
Well, shit — maybe we do need more eyes.

By: Chris Taggart

Chris Taggart — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:39:22 +0000

Well Military I have that technology now and I have the Level IV certifications to prove it. I can mass produce these for you but I want no beaucracy –just help —I am proud of this achievement and love doing it…$$$ is not this issue I make fairly good money as a machinist so call me and let me start the process going and save lives and limbs ;thank you.
Sincerely:Chris Taggart
Director-CombatBodyArmor Co.

By: BT

BT — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:11:31 +0000

I’d have to agree. The offense/defense armor race is not the best use of resources; law of diminishing returns, until a breakthrough occurs.
What’s next, SAPI plates to defeat 12.7mmAPI?
More eyes are needed, human and/or technological. I’d still like to see 100,000 Predator B’s or giant armed Airships, providing real-time CAS. That is needed to counter the insurgent’s hit and run/hide tactics.
The only thing that is needed right now is Level 4 ballistic helmets.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:46:22 +0000

Curious philosophy! Billions for targets, but not a penny for bullet-proof plates. This “smells” remarkably like the “virtual fence” along our southern border.
I propose an alternate philosophy. (And yes I am a fan of sci-fi.) The camo armor of the Star Wars Stormtrooper, a fully head to toe system. Then thousands of troops wearing them.
I am in favor of the Army advancing their body armor.
The Air Force can bomb. The Navy can bombard. But it takes a Soldier or Marine to take the ground.
former Sailor; CTR1(SW)