Comments on: Boomer Fleet

By: Dr. Dee

Dr. Dee — Sun, 17 Apr 2011 07:00:16 +0000

Cosmic Cryptic Top Secret — probably only known by a few people, and what’s out there in the Cosmos is beyond anything you can imagine– all the other things are just for show, but we still need to control land and masses of people we don’t really want to vaporize — and ground personal will always be part of the equation.

By: idcsubdoc

idcsubdoc — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:08:37 +0000

the old say is…walk softly and carry a big stick (the Boomer is that Big Stick)…i served on 2 boomers and it was the biggest honor of my military service…

By: Cameron Gill

Cameron Gill — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:12:36 +0000

One thing history shows is that the future is never certain and threats keep evolving. The first Cold War may be over, but Putin’s increasing belligerence and China’s rapid advancement in both conventional and nuclear capabilities means that it would be premature for the USA to cut it strategic missile boat fleet too much.

By: Robert A. Melley

Robert A. Melley — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:55:29 +0000

We MUST keep the 14 SSBNs and the 4 SSGNs the US Navy has in the works.….The newly modified SSGNs carry 22 MACs in their 24 missile tubes, the 2 spares are for SPECIAL OPS, MACs are multiple all round up cannisters that each hold 7 improved Tomahawk land attack missiles, that’s gives the SSGN 154 cruise missiles that can be volley fired in 6 minutes.
The Russian navy under Putin’s guidance is building 3 new SSBN’s armed with the new Bulava ICBM, which apparently now works, after a few dismal failures, this missile has 6 MIRVS. The PLAN, China’s navy is build new project 094 SSBN’s to be armed with the JL-2 sub launched missile. While China’s new Project 093 SSNs are being built to replace the older Han class nuke attack boats, they’ll carry the newest versions
of wake homing and wire guided torpedoes, high speed anti-ship cruise missiles and are aimed at keeping US Navy Carrier Strike Groups well away from China’s mainland.…The new Chinese “String of Pearls” defense plan is also aimed at keeping the USN at bay. China plans to equip each of her three naval fleets with a small deck carrier which will use the naval variant of the Russian SU-27 Flanker, fighter bomber, the SU-33. China’s has just purchased several of these SU-33’s from her main weapons supplier, Russia. Eventually they will build their own versions with Chinese engines. The SU-33 has “fold up” wing tips and extra canards as well as additional hard points under the wings for weapons, like anti-ship missiles.
We now have the 21st century version of the COLD WAR being set in place, the US at odds with Russia in the Atlantic, North Pacific, and maybe South America and a growing threat from China in the Pacific and SE Asia. China now has “access” to several ports in the Indian Ocean, courtesy of Pakistan…One is near the Strait of Hormuz..the good news is that India is now becoming a US ally
and hopefully she’ll act as a counter-balance to China in the Indian Ocean.
Sometime before 2050, the date set by Beijing as when they’ll be able to face down the US, we’re going to have a serious military conflict with either of the above two “baddies,” or with them both at the same time. We need to build our military resources and focus on the strategic issues wew confronted by in the 21st century,
and at the same time end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan by destroying the outsiders who are
killing our troops every day.
It is in China’s and Russia’s best u=interest to have the US bogged down in a prolonged war draining our vital resources of PEOPLE and arms.
WE desparately need real people of vison in Washington, our country deserves nothing else at this time.

By: James

James — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:38:49 +0000

hey
first question:what is the point of our enemies present and future being affraid to start a war if they develope gama weapons or what have you that instead of nukes they use gamma or whatever warheads. weapons that except for a few minerals leave no radioactive fallout only destroying biologicals.(i know half the ppl reading this just rolled there eyes) but think about it say to defend against air attack he developes weapons capable of intercepting missiles and any fighter or bomber because of the flight time maybe develope hipervelocity nuke missiles that fly low and fast.……the future is here anything above the waves will either have to accept it may not be possible to go without armor on the surface or mount enough defences to keep afloat and satelites get cheaper and easier to deploy. being able to go silent and deep and then pop up and attack then fade away may be our biggest deturent.….and for everone who thinks there wont be anymore large wars…how many would have said there couldnt be another before ww2.…people will always take advantage of a weakness were hunters its our nature it cares nothing for logic or reason its about millions of years of evolution
fact is no one likes us..hell even canada thinks were bad ppl we have to be able to play a good bluff and let them know or hand is far better than theres

By: Aaron

Aaron — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:50:49 +0000

The deterence value of the SSBN is severely limited. We already have an ICBM force and a nuclear bomber capable force. How much deterence do we need?
and this ‘we need them to stike back after the first wave of the nuclear war’ bit above is simply delusional.
And if anyone is concerned that we dont have the money, well we now pay approximately 165 billion dollars a year in debt service. courtesy of RR, GHWB, and GWB. want more money available for weapons? vote democrat in 08.
Oh and its not the subs that defeated the USSR in the cold war. It was the Saudis.
Check this link from notorious rightwing ‘thinktank’ AEI:
http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/5975.html

By: David Berry

David Berry — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:18:18 +0000

I served on the USS Lafayette, SSBN 616 74–78. I have heard several reports that it was our submarine service and technology that brough down the Russians. The Cold War, although seldom acknowledged may have been the greatest war ever fought, and we won without firing ashot. How many more wars can be handled this way, if we keep our fleet prepare at all times. China’s technology is looming on the horizon, they are a communist nation and a potential threat to our security. Our missile boats may be the only thing that is keeping them is restraint.However, our paroblem is gong to be the lack of leadership and confidence in our government, that they will use the big guns, when needed.

By: Alex

Alex — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:12:37 +0000

Training a boat crew to maneuver in littoral waters is time consuming and expensive. Littoral operations place the boat and crew at extreme risk for detection.(I still remember how it felt) The relatively compact size and maneuverability of fast-attacks makes them better platforms for such operations and does not expose a large number of nuclear warheads to capture. And in the event of a really bad day you don’t need as many scuttle charges with the smaller boats.
Navigating an undersea mountain range or plotting airholes is child’s play compared to littoral operations. Littoral operations place a boat near the surface; the surface is where targets live.

By: L. Briggs

L. Briggs — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:49:30 +0000

Better to have a weapon system already “on the
shelf” so to speak and not need it than to need
one and not have it.
If the boomer’s go they will probably never be
replaced considering the current tone in
Congress.
People have forgotten the Army and Navy pre
WWII when troops drilled with broomsticks or
limited ammo.
Do not scrap something just because it appears to not be needed at the moment

By: Max

Max — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:07:49 +0000

Ajay,
A surface vessel is a lot easier to find and sink.
The boomers are the most cost effective way of continuing a nuclear deterrent. The four that have been converted to cruise missle,s/f insertion subs are also more cost effective than a surface vessel. Dropping an s/fteam by helo has already shown, in Afghanistan, to be a quick way to loose the chopper and the team The subs already exist and only a complete fool would scrap vessels halfway through their life spans.