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		<title>By: Roland</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/07/19/f-16-shoot-down-mystery/#comment-221504</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 08:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they don&#039;t want us there anymore. We should pull out our troops as soon as possible. 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/01/08/iraq.sadr/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/01/08/iraq.sa...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they don’t want us there anymore. We should pull out our troops as soon as possible.<br />
  <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/01/08/iraq.sadr/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/01/08/iraq.sa…</a></p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/07/19/f-16-shoot-down-mystery/#comment-221500</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 08:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;a href=&quot;http://4sky.up.seesaa.net/image/P9120049.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://4sky.up.seesaa.net/image/P9120049.jpg&lt;/a&gt;  
Japanese F-16 deflected tailplanes : 
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Japanese F-16 deflected tailplanes :</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/07/19/f-16-shoot-down-mystery/#comment-221499</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 08:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>related link :  
  
F-16 Sale to Taiwan, Would It Make A Difference? :  
    &lt;a href=&quot;http://defensetech.org/2010/03/15/f-16-sale-to-taiwan-would-it-make-a-difference/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://defensetech.org/2010/03/15/f-16-sale-to-ta...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>related link :  </p>
<p>F-16 Sale to Taiwan, Would It Make A Difference? :<br />
    <a href="http://defensetech.org/2010/03/15/f-16-sale-to-taiwan-would-it-make-a-difference/" rel="nofollow">http://defensetech.org/2010/03/15/f-16-sale-to-ta…</a></p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/07/19/f-16-shoot-down-mystery/#comment-221498</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 08:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>related link :  
 
F-16 VS. GRAMMAR SCHOOL :  
   &lt;a href=&quot;http://defensetech.org/2004/11/05/f-16-vs-grammar-school/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://defensetech.org/2004/11/05/f-16-vs-grammar...&lt;/a&gt; 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>related link :  </p>
<p>F-16 VS. GRAMMAR SCHOOL :<br />
   <a href="http://defensetech.org/2004/11/05/f-16-vs-grammar-school/" rel="nofollow">http://defensetech.org/2004/11/05/f-16-vs-grammar…</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/07/19/f-16-shoot-down-mystery/#comment-63423</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All i wanna know is who packed the chute that the pilot used when ejecting. The reason for wondering is i am stationed at Misawa and the jet that crashed was a 13th jet. I am in the Survival Equipment shop which used to be part of Fab.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All i wanna know is who packed the chute that the pilot used when ejecting. The reason for wondering is i am stationed at Misawa and the jet that crashed was a 13th jet. I am in the Survival Equipment shop which used to be part of Fab.</p>
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		<title>By: esmoore5</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/07/19/f-16-shoot-down-mystery/#comment-63422</link>
		<dc:creator>esmoore5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 02:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More on the AH-60 at:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/mh-60l-dap.htm
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on the AH-60 at:<br />
<a href="http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/mh-60l-dap.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/mh-60l-dap.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: esmoore5</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/07/19/f-16-shoot-down-mystery/#comment-164220</link>
		<dc:creator>esmoore5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 08:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, the article at:
http://nationaldefensemagazine.org/issues/2007/August/ArmyHelos.htm
includes the following:
&quot;A few days later, an SA-16 missile took down an
AH-60 Black Hawk, which resulted in the deaths of
four crewmembers and two passengers.&quot;
So it looks like the SA-16 HAS been used in Iraq
against an AH-60 helo, and perhaps other targets
as well.
In case you&#039;re wondering what an &quot;AH-60&quot; is.  See:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/ah-60l.htm
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, the article at:<br />
<a href="http://nationaldefensemagazine.org/issues/2007/August/ArmyHelos.htm" rel="nofollow">http://nationaldefensemagazine.org/issues/2007/August/ArmyHelos.htm</a><br />
includes the following:<br />
“A few days later, an SA-16 missile took down an<br />
AH-60 Black Hawk, which resulted in the deaths of<br />
four crewmembers and two passengers.“<br />
So it looks like the SA-16 HAS been used in Iraq<br />
against an AH-60 helo, and perhaps other targets<br />
as well.<br />
In case you’re wondering what an “AH-60″ is.  See:<br />
<a href="http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/ah-60l.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/ah-60l.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: George Skinner</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/07/19/f-16-shoot-down-mystery/#comment-164219</link>
		<dc:creator>George Skinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of misconceptions to correct:  an IR-guided missile does not follow a &quot;heat trail&quot; - it tracks hot metal such as the exhaust nozzle of a jet engine.  I also don&#039;t see why it&#039;s obvious that such a missile couldn&#039;t hit an aircraft taking off, as long as the aircraft overflies the launcher.  Once the aircraft flies past, its engine is now exposed to the seeker on the SAM.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of misconceptions to correct:  an IR-guided missile does not follow a “heat trail” — it tracks hot metal such as the exhaust nozzle of a jet engine.  I also don’t see why it’s obvious that such a missile couldn’t hit an aircraft taking off, as long as the aircraft overflies the launcher.  Once the aircraft flies past, its engine is now exposed to the seeker on the SAM.</p>
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		<title>By: Foreign.Boy</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/07/19/f-16-shoot-down-mystery/#comment-164218</link>
		<dc:creator>Foreign.Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You don&#039;t go around wasting good missiles on jets, they would shoot large helos carrying troops to increase the shock value....&quot;
Novemeber 2003 - Iraq
http://www.michael-forman.com/gallery/dhl.html
A DHL Freight Jet was hit by a SAM missile.
Given, it&#039;s a bigger target and lacks anti-SAM equiptment, but they managed to clip this bird while apaches circled the Baghdad airport
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“You don’t go around wasting good missiles on jets, they would shoot large helos carrying troops to increase the shock value.…“<br />
Novemeber 2003 — Iraq<br />
<a href="http://www.michael-forman.com/gallery/dhl.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.michael-forman.com/gallery/dhl.html</a><br />
A DHL Freight Jet was hit by a SAM missile.<br />
Given, it’s a bigger target and lacks anti-SAM equiptment, but they managed to clip this bird while apaches circled the Baghdad airport</p>
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		<title>By: Lugo</title>
		<link>http://defensetech.org/2007/07/19/f-16-shoot-down-mystery/#comment-164217</link>
		<dc:creator>Lugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are we not filming every single take-off? As with the camera in the bank or the 7-11, you only keep the film if something bad happens.
It is hard to believe that the air traffic controllers or someone on the base wouldn&#039;t notice if a missile started climbing into the sky right outside the wire.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are we not filming every single take-off? As with the camera in the bank or the 7–11, you only keep the film if something bad happens.<br />
It is hard to believe that the air traffic controllers or someone on the base wouldn’t notice if a missile started climbing into the sky right outside the wire.</p>
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