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Home » Ships and Subs » Cross Deck Operations

Cross Deck Operations

USS Enterprise, the US Navy’s old­est car­rier, recently in-​​chopped into the Mediterranean while on its lat­est deploy­ment. As part of its oper­a­tions, cross-​​deck flight oper­a­tions with French Rafael fight­ers were con­ducted, a rar­ity in these days of spe­cial­ized air­craft and flight ops. Narrative com­ments are from an email received from a deployed Enterprise offi­cer who par­tic­i­pated in the events:
Ent 3.jpg

“We trapped two French Rafale fight­ers on board the Enterprise today, first time ever that they have trapped. They did touch and go’s off other car­ri­ers before, but this was the first time to trap. They shut down, met with ENT heav­ies, French DVs (dis­tin­guished vis­i­tors), includ­ing one with 5 stars.
At the cat­a­pult, again a first, they took off with no issues. Then did a spec­tac­u­lar for­ma­tion fly-​​by at deck level.Ent deck 1.jpg
On-​​deck pics include side-​​by-​​side of Rafale on Cat 1 and F/​A-​​18F Super Hornet on Cat 2. Another Rafale has just come off Cat 4 and is using after­burn­ers on the climb-​​out. Their cat­a­pult pro­ce­dure are a lit­tle dif­fer­ent. They do wipe­out checks before cross­ing the JBD; once in ten­sion they just go straight to MIL power, salute, and launch. AB comes once down the cat. Note the move­able canards just aft of the canopy.”

ENT deck 2.jpg
As a for­mer cat­a­pult offi­cer, I can attest how this would have gen­er­ated a fair amount of inter­est from the air and flight-​​deck crews, if for noth­ing else than to be a break from the every-​​day monot­ony of launch­ing flight oper­a­tions. Having the French car­rier Charles De Gaulle’s cat­a­pult and arrest­ing gear sys­tems designed and installed by our NAVAIR guys and gals from Lakehurst, NJ helps in that the sys­tems used by both French naval air­craft and our our air­craft are sim­i­lar (if not almost iden­ti­cal).
Score a few points for com­bined inter­op­er­abil­ity! We’ve come close in recent years, at least with regards to joint air­craft naval flight oper­a­tions — I’ve seen flight deck videos of a French F-​​8 Crusader do touch and go’s on board USS John F Kennedy (our Landing Signal Officer call for the pilot to add a bit of power dur­ing the approach is “Power”. The French call is “Moteur”) and the Argentines bounced A-​​4 Skyhawks on the deck of USS Ronald Reagan a few years ago, but this is the first time I’ve seen actual traps and cats done in a long time. We scream about the afore­men­tioned “inter­op­er­abil­ity” (or the capa­bil­ity of a piece of equipment/​hardware/​weapon/​whatever to be able to func­tion with dif­fer­ent sys­tems) in the halls of the Pentagon all the time — its nice to be able to see it exe­cuted on La pointe pointu du javelot again.
Photo cred­its TBD
–Pinch Paisley

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  1. Ed says:
    July 24, 2007 at 2:52 pm

    Interesting. The French did some stuff with U.S.S. John C. Stennis in the North Arabian Sea not long ago too. I wrote about it here.

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  2. Ed says:
    July 24, 2007 at 2:54 pm

    I guess HTML is not allowed. Here’s the link:
    http://​par​tridge​.net/​b​l​o​g​/​2​0​0​7​/​0​7​/​1​1​/​d​o​g​s​-​l​y​i​n​g​-​w​i​t​h​-​c​a​t​s​-​t​o​a​d​s​-​f​r​o​m​-​t​h​e​-​s​ky/

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  3. Pinch says:
    July 24, 2007 at 3:33 pm

    Thanks Ed! We never had any low approaches or t&g’s on Kennedy when I was there. The F-​​8 that did a t&g was from the cruise just prior to mine. We *did* see a bunch of crazy Egyptian F-16’s fly by below flight-​​deck level at about 400 knots, though.

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  4. Arno says:
    July 24, 2007 at 7:09 pm

    Thanks for the info. I’d love to see some footage of the F-​​18 along side the Rafale on Cats 1 & 2… and the flyby.
    I trust some­one had a video­cam handy that day!
    Cheers,
    Arno

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  5. johnathan says:
    July 24, 2007 at 9:48 pm

    Interesting, at the start of the war, the French were ‘cheese eat­ing sur­ren­der monkies’, now they are polit­i­cally accept­able. I have to won­der if it has any­thing to do with the US loos­ing the Iraqi war and the French being right when they warned Bush against comit­ting both an ille­gal inva­sion, and hav­ing comit­ted them­selves to doing that, warned them about not under­stand­ing what they were get­ting them­selves into.
    Oh how to eat hum­ble American pie!

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  6. Adam says:
    July 25, 2007 at 12:17 am

    johnathan: france has always been a mem­ber of NATO. and they also have a new gov­ern­ment. ever thought that with the new con­ser­v­a­tive gov­ern­ment their rela­tions with our mil­i­tary might have improved? i haven’t had my serv­ing of pie yet.

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  7. RTLM says:
    July 25, 2007 at 1:22 am

    Now that’s dif­fer­ent! The Super Hornet dwarfs the Rafael. Good prac­tice for the French. They’re set to build 75 ton Carriers at some point. British too.
    Hope the Brits are prac­tic­ing for cat launches.

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  8. Wren says:
    July 25, 2007 at 2:19 am

    It’s inter­est­ing to note that up until 99 the Brits used to reg­u­larly fly Jaguars from US car­ri­ers to keep up with Catapult launches and because there car­ri­ers were only designed for Harriers.
    And to RTLM the brits don’t need to prac­tice cat­a­pult launches for there new car­ri­ers, there going to be equipped with a ski-​​ramp and fly the JSF F35B

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  9. elizzar says:
    July 25, 2007 at 5:32 am

    hi, re: wren and rtlm, assum­ing the car­ri­ers get built for the uk and france that is … and assum­ing the jsf is actu­ally ever built/​bought. i believe there are backup plans for the uk car­ri­ers to fly either a navalised eurofighter, or to use the rafale itself, should there be prob­lems with the jsf, in which case there would have to be a cat­a­pult launch­ing sys­tem on board. inci­den­tally, and i wel­come cor­rec­tions, wasn’t the steam cat­a­pult a british inven­tion which, like so many, we decided wasn’t going to be any use and the usa then proved us some­what wrong about …

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  10. Mike says:
    July 25, 2007 at 8:22 am

    Damn, the French build ‘em pretty.

    Reply
  11. withheld says:
    July 27, 2007 at 5:26 am

    @Arno: http://​www​.cor​lobe​.tk/​a​r​t​i​c​l​e​5​8​2​6​.​h​tml
    plus a cou­ple other pic­tures http://​secret​de​fense​.blogs​.lib​er​a​tion​.fr/​d​e​f​e​n​s​e​/​2​0​0​7​/​0​7​/​l​e​-​r​a​f​a​l​e​-​s​u​r​-​l​.​h​tml

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  12. Sam says:
    July 30, 2007 at 2:07 pm

    There was also an E2-​​C trapped and launched, but this had already been per­formed on USS John C Stennis.
    About what is said about the pro­ce­dure, it’s actu­ally true the way it is described (the French car­rier has much less space and can­not afford planes check­ing on the cat­a­pult, every­thing must be done dur­ing setup and lineup).
    AB can be used right from the cat­a­pult if the con­fig­u­ra­tion is very heavy (long-​​range strike or ultra heavy refu­elling).
    I’m pleased you find them pretty :)

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  13. Hugo says:
    August 5, 2007 at 7:03 am

    Well, I’m french and I am very proud of that !
    This may improve the links between French and USA, and France need that, because the “Charles de Gaulle” will be unavail­able for a long time, and frenchs air­crafts will need some car­ri­ers to be trained !

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  14. Ahmet le Turque says:
    January 18, 2008 at 11:43 am

    What a won­der­ful plane the French have build. It can eas­ily match with the Eurofighter and can even land on car­ri­ers. I am so impressed that the French have the will and brain­power to develop and build their own very mod­ern fighter-​​aircraft and car­ri­ers and not to for­get their “Force de frappe” in order to be mil­i­tar­ily as autark as pos­si­ble .
    I hope my coun­try Turkey will finally pur­chase some of them and can­cel the par­tic­i­pa­tion in the JSF pro­gram which does not fit our needs although it will not be bad i am sure. Unfortunately some of our stu­pid politi­cians and strate­gists think otherwise.

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  15. Ahmet le Turque d'allemagne says:
    January 18, 2008 at 11:47 am

    What a won­der­ful plane the RAFALE is. It
    can eas­ily match with the Eurofighter and can even land on car­ri­ers. I am so impressed that the French have the will and brain­power to develop and build their own very mod­ern fighter-​​aircraft and car­ri­ers and not to for­get their “Force de frappe” in order to be mil­i­tar­ily as autark as pos­si­ble .
    I hope my coun­try Turkey will finally pur­chase some of them and can­cel the par­tic­i­pa­tion in the JSF pro­gram which does not fit our needs although it will not be bad i am sure. Unfortunately some of our stu­pid politi­cians and strate­gists think otherwise.

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