Comments on: Why the F-35 Will Smoke the Russians http://defensetech.org/2007/08/22/why-the-f-35-will-smoke-the-russians/ The Future of the Military, Law Enforcement and National Security Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:29:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jason Weishaupthttp://defensetech.org/2007/08/22/why-the-f-35-will-smoke-the-russians/#comment-249826 Jason Weishaupt Thu, 01 Dec 2011 22:36:13 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3691#comment-249826 As soon as the F-35 turns on its radar everyone with an RWR will pick it up. And when it opens its launch bays bingo it's on your scope! On top of this the AMRAAM is self homing only once it is withing about 9 miles of its target. The Chinese and the Rooskies are developing anti-radiation air-to-air missiles. Then it comes down to who fires first. You fire your active seeker at me and I shoot my passive seeker at you head on from 20 miles away. I then turn and run. Both missiles are doing MACH 4. The difference is your missile is chasing me and I know it. My missile is coming head on at you and because it is small and passive you DON'T know it. Assuming no AWACS or ground support on either side produces an interesting dual. I believe that stealth technology is going from a double edged sword to that of a single edge. Still superior but no invincible. JJ The Fed As soon as the F-35 turns on its radar everyone with an RWR will pick it up. And when it opens its launch bays bingo it’s on your scope! On top of this the AMRAAM is self homing only once it is withing about 9 miles of its target. The Chinese and the Rooskies are developing anti-radiation air-to-air missiles. Then it comes down to who fires first. You fire your active seeker at me and I shoot my passive seeker at you head on from 20 miles away. I then turn and run. Both missiles are doing MACH 4. The difference is your missile is chasing me and I know it. My missile is coming head on at you and because it is small and passive you DON’T know it. Assuming no AWACS or ground support on either side produces an interesting dual. I believe that stealth technology is going from a double edged sword to that of a single edge. Still superior but no invincible.

JJ The Fed

]]> By: Samhttp://defensetech.org/2007/08/22/why-the-f-35-will-smoke-the-russians/#comment-247073 Sam Thu, 10 Nov 2011 21:27:31 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3691#comment-247073 <a href="http://vayu-sena.indianmilitaryhistory.org/exercise-red-flag-su-30mki-comparison-fornof.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://vayu-sena.indianmilitaryhistory.org/exerci...</a> Ya while they may have won in India where the F-15's were limited they got ruined in America when the Eagle spread it's wings even when the SU-30MKI's were empty the F-15 was deadlier so ya ur description is wrong AMERICA!!! http://vayu-sena.indianmilitaryhistory.org/exerci…
Ya while they may have won in India where the F-15’s were limited they got ruined in America when the Eagle spread it’s wings even when the SU-30MKI’s were empty the F-15 was deadlier so ya ur description is wrong AMERICA!!!

]]> By: jhmhttp://defensetech.org/2007/08/22/why-the-f-35-will-smoke-the-russians/#comment-211628 jhm Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:55:09 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3691#comment-211628 YOu do come up with some good objections, but India won many air to air victories because the Americans weren't allowed to use BVR. Also, the shear numbers of the F35 will overwhelm any air force today. The F35 can supercruise, and although not totally stealthy, it can still sneak up on Su30s with ease since it only needs to get within 40 miles of the fighter. YOu do come up with some good objections, but India won many air to air victories because the Americans weren’t allowed to use BVR. Also, the shear numbers of the F35 will overwhelm any air force today. The F35 can supercruise, and although not totally stealthy, it can still sneak up on Su30s with ease since it only needs to get within 40 miles of the fighter.

]]> By: Enthusiasthttp://defensetech.org/2007/08/22/why-the-f-35-will-smoke-the-russians/#comment-208900 Enthusiast Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:35:25 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3691#comment-208900 Russian stealth PAK-FA (fully operational in 2015) will be capable to easily smoke this fat duck which have "F-35" destignation. Remeber "maneuverability is irrelevant" (C) F-35 designers. It's looser's position. Russian stealth PAK-FA (fully operational in 2015) will be capable to easily smoke this fat duck which have “F-35″ destignation.
Remeber “maneuverability is irrelevant” © F-35 designers. It’s looser’s position.

]]> By: Teddyhttp://defensetech.org/2007/08/22/why-the-f-35-will-smoke-the-russians/#comment-208899 Teddy Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:33:51 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3691#comment-208899 Look guys all i'm going to say is this the f-35 has thad the best scientests and $220billion spent making her fly the best of aviation tech from 10 diffrent countrys and cost about $200 million each and the su-30/47 is about $130-$140 million each and has the know how of russia, china and india (which they bought of france) all i say is trust in your country Look guys all i’m going to say is this the f-35 has thad the best scientests and $220billion spent making her fly the best of aviation tech from 10 diffrent countrys and cost about $200 million each and the su-30/47 is about $130-$140 million each and has the know how of russia, china and india (which they bought of france) all i say is trust in your country

]]> By: Robert Frittshttp://defensetech.org/2007/08/22/why-the-f-35-will-smoke-the-russians/#comment-203348 Robert Fritts Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:33:29 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3691#comment-203348 I know this to years removed, but. We now know that the J-35 in any version is a gas guzzler. It can't go over to the next county without a refill. Also LM now has revised all of their claims that J-35 is a stealth. It is now called "stealthy" by its maker. For any thing except hollywood flybyes it will have to carry ordanance, EW or fuel on the exterior which means all the "stealthy" features are for not. Even if it is totally stealth, two fill ups on a mission from Pensacola to Miami and back make it worthless. Why? Pretty easy to find the Stealth plane when the KC-10 slows down and flys straight and level @ 160Kts for 5-15 minutes. Hope this finds you after all this time. I know this to years removed, but. We now know that the J-35 in any version is a gas guzzler. It can’t go over to the next county without a refill. Also LM now has revised all of their claims that J-35 is a stealth. It is now called “stealthy” by its maker. For any thing except hollywood flybyes it will have to carry ordanance, EW or fuel on the exterior which means all the “stealthy” features are for not. Even if it is totally stealth, two fill ups on a mission from Pensacola to Miami and back make it worthless. Why? Pretty easy to find the Stealth plane when the KC-10 slows down and flys straight and level @ 160Kts for 5–15 minutes. Hope this finds you after all this time.

]]> By: Robert Frittshttp://defensetech.org/2007/08/22/why-the-f-35-will-smoke-the-russians/#comment-203347 Robert Fritts Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:30:05 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3691#comment-203347 I know this to years removed, but. We now know that the J-35 in any version is a gas guzzler. It can't go over to the next county without a refill. Also LM now has revised all of their claims that J-35 is a stealth. It is now called "stealthy" by its maker. For any thing except hollywood flybyes it will have to carry ordanance, EW or fuel on the exterior which means all the "stealthy" features are for not. Even if it is totally stealth, two fill ups on a mission from Pensacola to Miami and back make it worthless. Why? Pretty easy to find the Stealth plane when the KC-10 slows down and flys straight and level @ 160Kts for 5-15 minutes. Hope this finds you after all this time. I know this to years removed, but. We now know that the J-35 in any version is a gas guzzler. It can’t go over to the next county without a refill. Also LM now has revised all of their claims that J-35 is a stealth. It is now called “stealthy” by its maker. For any thing except hollywood flybyes it will have to carry ordanance, EW or fuel on the exterior which means all the “stealthy” features are for not. Even if it is totally stealth, two fill ups on a mission from Pensacola to Miami and back make it worthless. Why? Pretty easy to find the Stealth plane when the KC-10 slows down and flys straight and level @ 160Kts for 5–15 minutes. Hope this finds you after all this time.

]]> By: Wootehttp://defensetech.org/2007/08/22/why-the-f-35-will-smoke-the-russians/#comment-195437 Woote Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:06:06 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3691#comment-195437 The F35 is a replacement for ground attack and strike aircraft like the F-18, F-16 and a VSTOL version for the marines harrier replancement, it is not made to dogfight any aircraft, I am sure that if the US tryed to attack a large country like china or russia the first objective would be to desimate there ability to make war in the air, this would be done with the careful application of F-22s alot of tomahawks and a very good stratagy, the F35 is not in direct competition with air supiriority aircraft, it is simply a good replacement for everything else, that being said the capabilitys of the F35 are increadible when you compare them to other strike aircraft and not airsupiriority fighters like the T-50 and the SU-30 The F35 is a replacement for ground attack and strike aircraft like the F-18, F-16 and a VSTOL version for the marines harrier replancement, it is not made to dogfight any aircraft, I am sure that if the US tryed to attack a large country like china or russia the first objective would be to desimate there ability to make war in the air, this would be done with the careful application of F-22s alot of tomahawks and a very good stratagy, the F35 is not in direct competition with air supiriority aircraft, it is simply a good replacement for everything else, that being said the capabilitys of the F35 are increadible when you compare them to other strike aircraft and not airsupiriority fighters like the T-50 and the SU-30

]]> By: Al Reimerhttp://defensetech.org/2007/08/22/why-the-f-35-will-smoke-the-russians/#comment-165817 Al Reimer Thu, 01 Oct 2009 04:10:06 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3691#comment-165817 In order to see the Russian aircraft,the f35 would have to use its own radar.Long before a strong enough return is received by the f35's radar,the radar in the Russian plane could passively detect the f35 trying to find the Russian plane.The most stealthy tactic is to not use active detection of any sort.Turning on radar gives your location away every time.As far as maneuverability , my money would be on the Russian fighter. Suddenly not so one sided eh!! In order to see the Russian aircraft,the f35 would have to use its own radar.Long before a strong enough return is received by the f35’s radar,the radar in the Russian plane could passively detect the f35 trying to find the Russian plane.The most stealthy tactic is to not use active detection of any sort.Turning on radar gives your location away every time.As far as maneuverability , my money would be on the Russian fighter.
Suddenly not so one sided eh!!

]]> By: Al Reimerhttp://defensetech.org/2007/08/22/why-the-f-35-will-smoke-the-russians/#comment-165816 Al Reimer Thu, 01 Oct 2009 04:08:25 +0000 http://deftech.usmilblog.com/?p=3691#comment-165816 In order to see the Russian aircraft,the f35 would have to use its own radar.Long before a strong enough return is received by the f35's radar,the radar in the Russian plane could passively detect the f35 trying to find the Russian plane.The most stealthy tactic is to not use active detection of any sort.Turning on radar gives your location away every time.As far as maneuverability , my money would be on the Russian fighter. Suddenly not so one sided eh!! In order to see the Russian aircraft,the f35 would have to use its own radar.Long before a strong enough return is received by the f35’s radar,the radar in the Russian plane could passively detect the f35 trying to find the Russian plane.The most stealthy tactic is to not use active detection of any sort.Turning on radar gives your location away every time.As far as maneuverability , my money would be on the Russian fighter.
Suddenly not so one sided eh!!

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